Good-Bye Adobe
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The problem there is that after IE your two next most common infection routes are Flash and Acrobat Reader. Tossing acrobat reader for foxit is easy enough; but flash is still too commonly used in the general purpose web to make avoiding it not a pita. HTML5 doesn't provide an infrastructure for buffering streaming video or providing DRM. Until that changes it's not going to be able to displace flash/silverblight based video players. And until HTML5 cross browser rendering gets more consistent it's not going to replace flash for vector type banners/etc (typically much smaller than their png/(good quality ) jpg equivalents).
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Dan Neely wrote:
but flash is still too commonly used in the general purpose web to make avoiding it not a pita
I beg to differ: I run FlashBlock and only ever bother to execute flash when I want to: normally YouTube. I don't find it a PITA, rather the reverse - everything seems quicker if flash just can't run!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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Is it an Adobe bagel? :rolleyes:
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Is it an Adobe bagel? :rolleyes:
[www.tamelectromecanica.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.
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The problem there is that after IE your two next most common infection routes are Flash and Acrobat Reader. Tossing acrobat reader for foxit is easy enough; but flash is still too commonly used in the general purpose web to make avoiding it not a pita. HTML5 doesn't provide an infrastructure for buffering streaming video or providing DRM. Until that changes it's not going to be able to displace flash/silverblight based video players. And until HTML5 cross browser rendering gets more consistent it's not going to replace flash for vector type banners/etc (typically much smaller than their png/(good quality ) jpg equivalents).
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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I apologize in advance for the following rant. Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis. I don't want or need your permission to use my computer. The part that kills me is accepting the license agreement. I'm pretty sure that license agreement means absolutely NOTHING. What if one guy installed the original on the machine and each subsequent update was authorized by a different user of the system? Yeah, it is just that meaningless. Someone needs to get a hold of Adobe Systems and let them know that this is no longer 1999 so the whole Adobe System superiority nonsense can go die in a fire. I can generate .PDF documents from Word now (or any other number of tools) and I can read those documents using any number of free .PDF readers that don't give me the same bloated, redundant, ivory tower shake down three times a week. Adobe, run your updates in the background and skip the license thing - implement this NOW. FUN TIP: Steve Jobs might be on to something as 15 million iPad users don't need you. You guys are about this close || to being nothing but a memory on the trash heap of computing history so hassling casual users is a really BAD PLAN. Part of this is that I well remember the obscene cost of your tools - the snobbery - the superiority - it still comes through with stupid updates and extra clicks for bogus license agreements, all because as a company you've yet to realize that you're fading fast. I'll be glad when you are all gone. You're still stuck in the '90s but are no longer a part of my hard drive. Hopefully your archaic stone age company will be gone soon. Losers.
There are definitely some people at Adobe who have a hard time grasping reality. Here is my own favorite example: I was doing some research on the issue of WPF versus WinForms a few months ago, and I stumbled upon this: http://www.thejoyofcode.com/10_reasons_you_should_consider_WPF_for_your_next_desktop_application.aspx[^] Near the top of the page, there is a matrix comparing various "desktop UI" platforms. WPF and WinForms are in there, along with some technologies that are really pretty different, like DirectX, Media Player, and PDF. I don't really see how these technologies all belong on the same axis; I guess the author was trying to be really, really general and think outside of the proverbial box. In the "PDF" column, the author put an "X" at the "Fixed Format Documents" row, and nowhere else. This seems pretty logical to me. PDFs are for fixed-format documents. Again, I'm not sure why this matrix has a "PDF" column... but it does, and "Fixed Format Documents" seems like a pretty fair description of what PDFs are good for (to the extent that they are even good for that; that's another debate). Well, some bigwig at Adobe took offense at the way this grid omits all of the other (cough, cough) great capabilities of the PDF format. Check out the comments beneath the grid... look for "I would like to point out that the column for PDF in that table is completely inaccurate." I'm not sure what this person is attempting to accomplish... I have never, ever looked at a requirements document and said anything like "well, we could use WinForms for this, or WPF, or Adobe PDF." (And even if I did, I seriously doubt PDF would be my eventual selection for such a project.) Incidentally, no one seems to have changed the article or responded in any way to the Adobe bigwig's comments.
modified on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:20 PM
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Dan Neely wrote:
but flash is still too commonly used in the general purpose web to make avoiding it not a pita
I beg to differ: I run FlashBlock and only ever bother to execute flash when I want to: normally YouTube. I don't find it a PITA, rather the reverse - everything seems quicker if flash just can't run!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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Do we have any clue as to when YouTube will be Flash-less. I so terribly want to get all of the Adobe Infection(tm) off my systems.
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There are definitely some people at Adobe who have a hard time grasping reality. Here is my own favorite example: I was doing some research on the issue of WPF versus WinForms a few months ago, and I stumbled upon this: http://www.thejoyofcode.com/10_reasons_you_should_consider_WPF_for_your_next_desktop_application.aspx[^] Near the top of the page, there is a matrix comparing various "desktop UI" platforms. WPF and WinForms are in there, along with some technologies that are really pretty different, like DirectX, Media Player, and PDF. I don't really see how these technologies all belong on the same axis; I guess the author was trying to be really, really general and think outside of the proverbial box. In the "PDF" column, the author put an "X" at the "Fixed Format Documents" row, and nowhere else. This seems pretty logical to me. PDFs are for fixed-format documents. Again, I'm not sure why this matrix has a "PDF" column... but it does, and "Fixed Format Documents" seems like a pretty fair description of what PDFs are good for (to the extent that they are even good for that; that's another debate). Well, some bigwig at Adobe took offense at the way this grid omits all of the other (cough, cough) great capabilities of the PDF format. Check out the comments beneath the grid... look for "I would like to point out that the column for PDF in that table is completely inaccurate." I'm not sure what this person is attempting to accomplish... I have never, ever looked at a requirements document and said anything like "well, we could use WinForms for this, or WPF, or Adobe PDF." (And even if I did, I seriously doubt PDF would be my eventual selection for such a project.) Incidentally, no one seems to have changed the article or responded in any way to the Adobe bigwig's comments.
modified on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:20 PM
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I apologize in advance for the following rant. Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis. I don't want or need your permission to use my computer. The part that kills me is accepting the license agreement. I'm pretty sure that license agreement means absolutely NOTHING. What if one guy installed the original on the machine and each subsequent update was authorized by a different user of the system? Yeah, it is just that meaningless. Someone needs to get a hold of Adobe Systems and let them know that this is no longer 1999 so the whole Adobe System superiority nonsense can go die in a fire. I can generate .PDF documents from Word now (or any other number of tools) and I can read those documents using any number of free .PDF readers that don't give me the same bloated, redundant, ivory tower shake down three times a week. Adobe, run your updates in the background and skip the license thing - implement this NOW. FUN TIP: Steve Jobs might be on to something as 15 million iPad users don't need you. You guys are about this close || to being nothing but a memory on the trash heap of computing history so hassling casual users is a really BAD PLAN. Part of this is that I well remember the obscene cost of your tools - the snobbery - the superiority - it still comes through with stupid updates and extra clicks for bogus license agreements, all because as a company you've yet to realize that you're fading fast. I'll be glad when you are all gone. You're still stuck in the '90s but are no longer a part of my hard drive. Hopefully your archaic stone age company will be gone soon. Losers.
MehGerbil wrote:
Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis.
Really? I have two computers, both of which are on daily. I only get asked to update Adobe about once per month, if that.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather
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I apologize in advance for the following rant. Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis. I don't want or need your permission to use my computer. The part that kills me is accepting the license agreement. I'm pretty sure that license agreement means absolutely NOTHING. What if one guy installed the original on the machine and each subsequent update was authorized by a different user of the system? Yeah, it is just that meaningless. Someone needs to get a hold of Adobe Systems and let them know that this is no longer 1999 so the whole Adobe System superiority nonsense can go die in a fire. I can generate .PDF documents from Word now (or any other number of tools) and I can read those documents using any number of free .PDF readers that don't give me the same bloated, redundant, ivory tower shake down three times a week. Adobe, run your updates in the background and skip the license thing - implement this NOW. FUN TIP: Steve Jobs might be on to something as 15 million iPad users don't need you. You guys are about this close || to being nothing but a memory on the trash heap of computing history so hassling casual users is a really BAD PLAN. Part of this is that I well remember the obscene cost of your tools - the snobbery - the superiority - it still comes through with stupid updates and extra clicks for bogus license agreements, all because as a company you've yet to realize that you're fading fast. I'll be glad when you are all gone. You're still stuck in the '90s but are no longer a part of my hard drive. Hopefully your archaic stone age company will be gone soon. Losers.
You're preaching to the choir brother. Microsoft learn this little lesson a while ago, hence they only release patches on the second Tuesday of each month now (except for super-critical security patches.)
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Looks like they started with a list of WPF bullets and found one rival for each. :rolleyes:
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MehGerbil wrote:
Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis.
Really? I have two computers, both of which are on daily. I only get asked to update Adobe about once per month, if that.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather
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I apologize in advance for the following rant. Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis. I don't want or need your permission to use my computer. The part that kills me is accepting the license agreement. I'm pretty sure that license agreement means absolutely NOTHING. What if one guy installed the original on the machine and each subsequent update was authorized by a different user of the system? Yeah, it is just that meaningless. Someone needs to get a hold of Adobe Systems and let them know that this is no longer 1999 so the whole Adobe System superiority nonsense can go die in a fire. I can generate .PDF documents from Word now (or any other number of tools) and I can read those documents using any number of free .PDF readers that don't give me the same bloated, redundant, ivory tower shake down three times a week. Adobe, run your updates in the background and skip the license thing - implement this NOW. FUN TIP: Steve Jobs might be on to something as 15 million iPad users don't need you. You guys are about this close || to being nothing but a memory on the trash heap of computing history so hassling casual users is a really BAD PLAN. Part of this is that I well remember the obscene cost of your tools - the snobbery - the superiority - it still comes through with stupid updates and extra clicks for bogus license agreements, all because as a company you've yet to realize that you're fading fast. I'll be glad when you are all gone. You're still stuck in the '90s but are no longer a part of my hard drive. Hopefully your archaic stone age company will be gone soon. Losers.
Wow, I wish I could give your post more than a 5! Well said.
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I apologize in advance for the following rant. Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis. I don't want or need your permission to use my computer. The part that kills me is accepting the license agreement. I'm pretty sure that license agreement means absolutely NOTHING. What if one guy installed the original on the machine and each subsequent update was authorized by a different user of the system? Yeah, it is just that meaningless. Someone needs to get a hold of Adobe Systems and let them know that this is no longer 1999 so the whole Adobe System superiority nonsense can go die in a fire. I can generate .PDF documents from Word now (or any other number of tools) and I can read those documents using any number of free .PDF readers that don't give me the same bloated, redundant, ivory tower shake down three times a week. Adobe, run your updates in the background and skip the license thing - implement this NOW. FUN TIP: Steve Jobs might be on to something as 15 million iPad users don't need you. You guys are about this close || to being nothing but a memory on the trash heap of computing history so hassling casual users is a really BAD PLAN. Part of this is that I well remember the obscene cost of your tools - the snobbery - the superiority - it still comes through with stupid updates and extra clicks for bogus license agreements, all because as a company you've yet to realize that you're fading fast. I'll be glad when you are all gone. You're still stuck in the '90s but are no longer a part of my hard drive. Hopefully your archaic stone age company will be gone soon. Losers.
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MehGerbil wrote:
Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis.
Really? I have two computers, both of which are on daily. I only get asked to update Adobe about once per month, if that.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather
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MehGerbil wrote:
You must have an iPhone. :-D
Nope, not even close. :rolleyes:
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather
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I apologize in advance for the following rant. Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis. I don't want or need your permission to use my computer. The part that kills me is accepting the license agreement. I'm pretty sure that license agreement means absolutely NOTHING. What if one guy installed the original on the machine and each subsequent update was authorized by a different user of the system? Yeah, it is just that meaningless. Someone needs to get a hold of Adobe Systems and let them know that this is no longer 1999 so the whole Adobe System superiority nonsense can go die in a fire. I can generate .PDF documents from Word now (or any other number of tools) and I can read those documents using any number of free .PDF readers that don't give me the same bloated, redundant, ivory tower shake down three times a week. Adobe, run your updates in the background and skip the license thing - implement this NOW. FUN TIP: Steve Jobs might be on to something as 15 million iPad users don't need you. You guys are about this close || to being nothing but a memory on the trash heap of computing history so hassling casual users is a really BAD PLAN. Part of this is that I well remember the obscene cost of your tools - the snobbery - the superiority - it still comes through with stupid updates and extra clicks for bogus license agreements, all because as a company you've yet to realize that you're fading fast. I'll be glad when you are all gone. You're still stuck in the '90s but are no longer a part of my hard drive. Hopefully your archaic stone age company will be gone soon. Losers.
I'm with you. Flash player crashes if hardware acceleration is enabled. I looked at the forums and see that people have being having problems with that for years. Instead of fixing the bug they blame the hardware drivers. Looks like Steve Jobs was right about Adobe crapware.
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I apologize in advance for the following rant. Sorry guys, I simply have lost my cool over the constant Adobe update nonsense. Every freakin' time I turn on my computer I have to jump through the same stupid set of hoops to update Flash and Adobe Reader. If it happened infrequently that would be one thing but I've got to run through this stupid ritual on nearly a daily basis. I don't want or need your permission to use my computer. The part that kills me is accepting the license agreement. I'm pretty sure that license agreement means absolutely NOTHING. What if one guy installed the original on the machine and each subsequent update was authorized by a different user of the system? Yeah, it is just that meaningless. Someone needs to get a hold of Adobe Systems and let them know that this is no longer 1999 so the whole Adobe System superiority nonsense can go die in a fire. I can generate .PDF documents from Word now (or any other number of tools) and I can read those documents using any number of free .PDF readers that don't give me the same bloated, redundant, ivory tower shake down three times a week. Adobe, run your updates in the background and skip the license thing - implement this NOW. FUN TIP: Steve Jobs might be on to something as 15 million iPad users don't need you. You guys are about this close || to being nothing but a memory on the trash heap of computing history so hassling casual users is a really BAD PLAN. Part of this is that I well remember the obscene cost of your tools - the snobbery - the superiority - it still comes through with stupid updates and extra clicks for bogus license agreements, all because as a company you've yet to realize that you're fading fast. I'll be glad when you are all gone. You're still stuck in the '90s but are no longer a part of my hard drive. Hopefully your archaic stone age company will be gone soon. Losers.
Nobody force you to install their crap did they? :zzz:
Wout
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I hate Adobe, they're the new Norton Antivirus of the internet.
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Norm .net wrote:
Norton Antivirus of the internet
Ooooh, that's bad! I hate all antivirus crap ware, none of it is touching my happy development machine.
Wout
