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  • B BRShroyer

    Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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    BRShroyer wrote:

    13,000 terrawatts

    Shouldn't that be selenawatts?

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      Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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      Albert Holguin
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      ...seems like a completely impractical dream...

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        Bad idea. Remember Sim City 2000? Those cool microwave power plants you could build after the year 2050? Sometimes one of the energy beams hit houses nearby. :)

        BRShroyer wrote:

        A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site.

        Reminds me of the film Moon[^]

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        Dan Neely
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        That's a fairly inaccurate representation. Even at geosynchronous orbit, the footprint of any plausible size microwave transmitter would be measured in square miles, not city blocks. The effects would be more plausible for a laser type transmission system, except that we'll never see one built; precisely because it would be an orbital death ray.

        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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        • B BRShroyer

          Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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          Wouldn't it be easier to just build a pile of nuclear reactors up there? On the moon they should be safe from tsunamis or terrorists or whatever people complain about for the Earth bound ones. Or, are we worried about giving the moon cancer? Reactors could even be built only on the dark side so the moon wouldn't look like a pokeymon ball.

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          • D Dan Neely

            That's a fairly inaccurate representation. Even at geosynchronous orbit, the footprint of any plausible size microwave transmitter would be measured in square miles, not city blocks. The effects would be more plausible for a laser type transmission system, except that we'll never see one built; precisely because it would be an orbital death ray.

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            Dan Neely wrote:

            we'll never see one built

            Dan Neely wrote:

            an orbital death ray

            #whistles#


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            • D Dan Neely

              That's a fairly inaccurate representation. Even at geosynchronous orbit, the footprint of any plausible size microwave transmitter would be measured in square miles, not city blocks. The effects would be more plausible for a laser type transmission system, except that we'll never see one built; precisely because it would be an orbital death ray.

              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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              Smithers Jones
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              Dan Neely wrote:

              except that we'll never see one built; precisely because it would be an orbital death ray.

              So I guess you also think, we will never see sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their frickin' heads? :)

              Dan Neely wrote:

              a laser type transmission system

              My double-fold tinfoil hat will protect me and reflect the laser beam into space. Where is the tin-foil hat emoticon when you need one?

              "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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              • B BRShroyer

                Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                BRShroyer wrote:

                where it would then be used to

                incinerate wast swathes of the earths surface after the stepper motors fail...

                Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                • B BRShroyer

                  Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                  FTFY

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                  • B BRShroyer

                    Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                    Stupid plan. The real Death Star[^] has been parked in our solar system. Since a long time, as battered as it looks.

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                    I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011

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                    • B BRShroyer

                      Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                      BRShroyer wrote:

                      they're ruled by an emperor

                      I think you're slightly behind the times here - Japan is a parliamentary democracy, where the Emperor plays a minimal constitutional role, a bit like "our dear queen" (sarcasm icon clearly lacking)

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                        Wouldn't it be easier to just build a pile of nuclear reactors up there? On the moon they should be safe from tsunamis or terrorists or whatever people complain about for the Earth bound ones. Or, are we worried about giving the moon cancer? Reactors could even be built only on the dark side so the moon wouldn't look like a pokeymon ball.

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                        Yeah, but that's still a major undertaking - you have to mine the uranium ore, build the refinery, refine it, build the power station, cart off the "used" fuel, bury it somewhere so people aren't walking into it every time they turn around. Ok, so you still have to do some of this with a moon-based solar power receiver, but at least you can start small and build it up as you go. But, the power is free once you have built it, and with no moving parts it should be very reliable - meteorites aside.

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                          BRShroyer wrote:

                          they're ruled by an emperor

                          I think you're slightly behind the times here - Japan is a parliamentary democracy, where the Emperor plays a minimal constitutional role, a bit like "our dear queen" (sarcasm icon clearly lacking)

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                          BRShroyer
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                          Rob Grainger wrote:

                          Japan is a parliamentary democracy, where the Emperor plays a minimal constitutional role

                          Yeah, right. Next thing you'll say is they don't have Samurais anymore. :laugh:

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                          • B BRShroyer

                            Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            That's not a death star. This[^] is a death star!


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                              That's not a death star. This[^] is a death star!


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              This[^] is a death star!

                              Looks more like a tiny Death Planetoid. :)

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                                Stupid plan. The real Death Star[^] has been parked in our solar system. Since a long time, as battered as it looks.

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                                Dont know who the sad 1 voter is, I thought that was quite funny. :)

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                                  Wouldn't it be easier to just build a pile of nuclear reactors up there? On the moon they should be safe from tsunamis or terrorists or whatever people complain about for the Earth bound ones. Or, are we worried about giving the moon cancer? Reactors could even be built only on the dark side so the moon wouldn't look like a pokeymon ball.

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                                  Been there, done that (sort of)[^]. (it wasn't a good idea, BTW)

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                                  • B BRShroyer

                                    Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    It looks like the Tsunami has had a psychological effect as well. They're taking "drastic" steps to generate clean power safely after the nuclear plant explosions. Quite a dumb plan, I must add. :omg:

                                    "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                    • B BRShroyer

                                      Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                                      Sounds like a remake of Real Genius[^], but set in Japan.

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                                        Dont know who the sad 1 voter is, I thought that was quite funny. :)

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                                        Thanks. And I did it again. The text is all in German. Sorry for that, but sometimes I just switch between languages without really noticing. The picture is from Saturn's moon Mimas and because of the large crater it's gotten the nickname Death Star.

                                        "I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
                                        I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011

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                                        • B BRShroyer

                                          Luna Ring[^] Shimizu Corporation construction firm’s research branch, CSP, unveiled a long-term planning project to install a belt of photovoltaic panels across the surface of the Moon. Power gathered from the 13,000 terrawatts of continuous solar energy the Moon’s surface receives daily would be beamed back to an Earth-based receiving station via microwave or laser transmission, where it would then be used to power public offices, hospitals and schools across the globe. A staff of remotely controlled robots would be in constant rotation to make repairs and provide maintenance for the LUNA RING installation, though the structure would require some human personnel on-site. To make the process more efficient, the proposed plan includes building the LUNA RING’s solar panels on the lunar surface using local materials, rather than launching pre-built panels to the site. Quoted from here.[^] I guess it makes sense, they're ruled by an emperor. I just didn't realize it was The Emperor.

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                                          Soulus83
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                                          Excellent! Now we are actually approaching the third Era according to Isaac Asimov :-D 4th will come when we start harvesting complex star systems! I'd just like to remember where I read that...one of the Foundation novels I think...

                                          "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford

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