Visual studio 2011 in browser ;)
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And latin has been around for eons, but most of the world speaks American English which is one of the newest languages. So....
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http://www.coderun.com/ide/[^] And notice how fast is it (at least in chrome) and how many project templates it has :)
It doesn't appear to support multiple screens.
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Gregory.Gadow wrote:
there are significantly more VB programmers than there are C#,
Funny... When ever I hear speakers talk about their books and such they talk about how VB is not even worth the trouble any more cause there is barely a market. So either u VB programmers don't read books (yes digital also), or you are a dieing breed. So which is it?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
So either u VB programmers don't read books (yes digital also), or you are a dieing breed.
Actually there is a weird anomaly I find with those numbers. I'm a VB but I end up buying C# books, because they cover more technologies, and if there is a VB version of the book it usually means someone half assed translating of it, leaving it full of errors. Now to book editors, writers and publishers this will show falsely that C# has more pull, and to push out more C# books; which has a spiraling effect. Now I know I'm not alone in this many of my fellow VB'ers out there end up buying a lot of C# material and then translating it for ourselves to VB. As for the numbers of VB vs. C# people, most professional VB'ers end up knowing C# because of Books, articles and such, where as C# people might never have touched any VB material at all. So when a questionnaire comes around like: What language(s) do you use? VB.net C# .... And then calculate the outputs, people who do both VB and C# get counted twice one for VB and one for C#, this ends up showing more buildup to C#, because C# people will only tend to vote for C#. These figures don't tend to reflect hobbyist developers at all, because they don't tend to travel in the same groups. As for the jobs available out there, they tend to reflect the same old mentality; if the language has a 'C' in it and curly brackets then it will run faster/better then any other language. This is an old mentality that is hard to break. So who is the culprit? I blame Microsoft. The technology evangelists, the SDK developers, the demo/article writers and such tend to put priority in getting the C# material out first and foremost. Is this because they know VB'ers can/will translate this for themselves? I'm not sure on that one, but it tends to send a signal to the rest of the industry. I could continue to argue more points, but frankly I'm tired of it; MS should fulfill their promise of equal footing of VB and C# and just let us get back to work.
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So cool. :)
Wonde Tadesse MCTS
So cool, it is frozen.
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http://www.coderun.com/ide/[^] And notice how fast is it (at least in chrome) and how many project templates it has :)
hmm.. interesting!!
If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much. Is this "soon" as in "Soon the sun will burn out and turn into a red giant"? - OriginalGriff
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It apparently does not support VB, which is odd: there are significantly more VB programmers than there are C#, and both use exactly the same code base.
I agree there should be a VB version, it is a very cool tool. However this website disagrees with you on VB programmers: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^]
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That actually is empirical evidence. That word gets misused all the time. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/empirical[^]
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It apparently does not support VB, which is odd: there are significantly more VB programmers than there are C#, and both use exactly the same code base.
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So, you need me to rephrase it? VB has been more used in the past, merely because C# didn't exist. VB4 isn't as much into the past as Latin. Savvy? :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:
So, finally, where is the evidence from either side?
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So, finally, where is the evidence from either side?
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An educated guess usually comes without evidence, doesn't it? If there's a measurement, we need not guess :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:
Every subjectivity has a reason (objectivity) inside. Educated guess requires education that led to this guess. Every education (knowledge) has a definite source. What is this source in our case? :)
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Every subjectivity has a reason (objectivity) inside. Educated guess requires education that led to this guess. Every education (knowledge) has a definite source. What is this source in our case? :)