Happy Memorial Day, America
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Very true and let us remember this in peace: Tommy this and Tommy that[^]
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
And also: The Relief of the Light Brigade[^] Our children's children are lisping to "honour the charge they made - " And we leave to the streets and the workhouse the charge of the Light Brigade! Not to mention (with a nod to Kipling): O then we're just like 'eroes from the army's glorious past. Yes, it's "God go with you, Tommy," when the trip might be your last. They pays us skivvy wages, never mind we're sitting ducks, When clerks what's pushing pens at 'ome don't know their flippin' luck. "Ah, yes" sez they "but think of all the travel to be 'ad." Pull the other one. Does Cooks do 'olidays in Baghdad? It's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, know your place," But it's "Tommy, take the front seat," when there's terrorists to chase. An' the town is full of maniacs who'd like you dead toot sweet. Yes, it's "Thank you, Mr Atkins," when they find you in the street. There's s'pposed to be a covenant to treat us fair an' square But I 'ad to buy me army boots, an' me combats is threadbare. An' 'alf the bloody 'elicopters can't get in the air, An' me pistol jammed when snipers fired. That's why I'm laid up 'ere. Yes, it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, "We 'ave to watch the pence"; But, bold as brass the P.M. sez, "We spare them no expense." But I'll tell you when they do us proud an' pull out all the stops, It's when Tommy lands at Lyneham in a bloomin' wooden box!
Everybody is elitist to a certain extent; except me - I'm better than that. Micah
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And also: The Relief of the Light Brigade[^] Our children's children are lisping to "honour the charge they made - " And we leave to the streets and the workhouse the charge of the Light Brigade! Not to mention (with a nod to Kipling): O then we're just like 'eroes from the army's glorious past. Yes, it's "God go with you, Tommy," when the trip might be your last. They pays us skivvy wages, never mind we're sitting ducks, When clerks what's pushing pens at 'ome don't know their flippin' luck. "Ah, yes" sez they "but think of all the travel to be 'ad." Pull the other one. Does Cooks do 'olidays in Baghdad? It's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, know your place," But it's "Tommy, take the front seat," when there's terrorists to chase. An' the town is full of maniacs who'd like you dead toot sweet. Yes, it's "Thank you, Mr Atkins," when they find you in the street. There's s'pposed to be a covenant to treat us fair an' square But I 'ad to buy me army boots, an' me combats is threadbare. An' 'alf the bloody 'elicopters can't get in the air, An' me pistol jammed when snipers fired. That's why I'm laid up 'ere. Yes, it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, "We 'ave to watch the pence"; But, bold as brass the P.M. sez, "We spare them no expense." But I'll tell you when they do us proud an' pull out all the stops, It's when Tommy lands at Lyneham in a bloomin' wooden box!
Everybody is elitist to a certain extent; except me - I'm better than that. Micah
Kipling also said, 'Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.'
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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Kipling's my favorite poet.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
I dont often agree with you, but down voted for a poet preference is so damm petty so 5'ed
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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It is the soldier, not the minister Who has given us freedom of religion. It is the soldier, not the reporter Who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet Who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer Who has given us freedom to protest. It is the soldier, not the lawyer Who has given us the right to a fair trial. It is the soldier, not the politician Who has given us the right to vote. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, And whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protester to burn the flag. ~ Charles M. Province
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the minister
Who has given us freedom of religion.And yet it was the minister who broke away from the Catholic Church.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the reporter
Who has given us freedom of the press.And yet soldiers are used to repress freedom.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the poet
Who has given us freedom of speech.Ditto.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer
Who has given us freedom to protest.Ditto.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the lawyer
Who has given us the right to a fair trial.Actually its law, and its questionable whether justice is fair. and so on. No, its not 'the soldier', its free thinking men, and in your countries history that goes from the Magna Charter through Protestantism, Democracy, the House of Commons, the Abolition of the King, Abolition of Slavery and voting power for Women. All these were done because of freethinking men. Somtimes the desired results were enforced with soldiers, and dont forget resisted with soldiers too, but also by protest.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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Very true and let us remember this in peace: Tommy this and Tommy that[^]
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Its not true, its simp[listic cack. I am surprised at you.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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Kipling also said, 'Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.'
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Another 5 for to counteract the 1
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the minister
Who has given us freedom of religion.And yet it was the minister who broke away from the Catholic Church.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the reporter
Who has given us freedom of the press.And yet soldiers are used to repress freedom.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the poet
Who has given us freedom of speech.Ditto.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer
Who has given us freedom to protest.Ditto.
Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the lawyer
Who has given us the right to a fair trial.Actually its law, and its questionable whether justice is fair. and so on. No, its not 'the soldier', its free thinking men, and in your countries history that goes from the Magna Charter through Protestantism, Democracy, the House of Commons, the Abolition of the King, Abolition of Slavery and voting power for Women. All these were done because of freethinking men. Somtimes the desired results were enforced with soldiers, and dont forget resisted with soldiers too, but also by protest.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
Well that's a bit sad, applying logic when the guy puts up a poem honouring soldiers, I don't agree with the absolute statements but do agree with the sentiments. Ah where are we, oh good the Soapbox, back in your corner you (insert many and varied and pithy insults).
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Well that's a bit sad, applying logic when the guy puts up a poem honouring soldiers, I don't agree with the absolute statements but do agree with the sentiments. Ah where are we, oh good the Soapbox, back in your corner you (insert many and varied and pithy insults).
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Why see it in a positive sentimental light when soldiers have been responsible for pretty much all the worlds misery?
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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Kipling also said, 'Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.'
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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Its not true, its simp[listic cack. I am surprised at you.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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Why see it in a positive sentimental light when soldiers have been responsible for pretty much all the worlds misery?
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
Never having been a soldier I have trouble arguing this particular point however I think you are totally wrong, religion is the greatest culprit for causing misery on the planet and soldiers are merely instruments, I believe they do the shit jobs thought up by others and suffer for it.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Kipling's my favorite poet.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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Never having been a soldier I have trouble arguing this particular point however I think you are totally wrong, religion is the greatest culprit for causing misery on the planet and soldiers are merely instruments, I believe they do the shit jobs thought up by others and suffer for it.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
religion is the greatest culprit for causing misery on the planet
Greed, power, wealth. Thos are the motivating factors, always were, always will be. The Chruch was only ever a player in the game, a game played by Kings and Queens throuought history.
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
soldiers are merely instruments
Who seem to enjoy the grisly task given to them. Easter front, Germany - Russia. What the soldiers as individuals did to anyone they encountered, be it child, womman, monk, or nun was indescribable.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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Why see it in a positive sentimental light when soldiers have been responsible for pretty much all the worlds misery?
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
fat_boy wrote:
Why see it in a positive sentimental light when soldiers have been responsible for pretty much all the worlds misery?
Wow, what a pile of over simplistic horse shit. Rarely have soldiers acted of their own volition in such a way and rarely will they ever. If you want to point fingers you might as well point at the philosophers and eulogisers of social, religious or political theory that gets force fed to the masses leading to a concensus that military action is required against the evil [enter your own stereotype here]. You may as well blame the tellers and cashiers for the collapse of the Royal Bank of Scotland.
Rhys "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
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fat_boy wrote:
Why see it in a positive sentimental light when soldiers have been responsible for pretty much all the worlds misery?
Wow, what a pile of over simplistic horse shit. Rarely have soldiers acted of their own volition in such a way and rarely will they ever. If you want to point fingers you might as well point at the philosophers and eulogisers of social, religious or political theory that gets force fed to the masses leading to a concensus that military action is required against the evil [enter your own stereotype here]. You may as well blame the tellers and cashiers for the collapse of the Royal Bank of Scotland.
Rhys "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
You have absoloutely no idea. Take a look at Bosnia. Take a look at Eastern Europe in WWII. You think there is any kind of nobility in soldiering?
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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You have absoloutely no idea. Take a look at Bosnia. Take a look at Eastern Europe in WWII. You think there is any kind of nobility in soldiering?
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
Neither of which would have been taking place on the scale they did without the eulogising political leadership of one or more countries. Daring to invoke Godwins Law and automatically preclude any further discussion on the matter how would the atrocities of Eastern Europe during WWII have occured without the rise of the Nazi party and its ideology during the preceding 10 to 15 years? Its easy to sit back in the comfort of our own freedoms and naysay men who have lived through and experienced the most terrible and appalling experiences and to expect every single one of them to be able to hold onto all the shreds of civility and understanding that we can from our armchairs. If you send men to hell and back, don't expect them to behave like angels and don't expect the experience to leave them unchanged. They gave up much of what we call our civility or humanity in perpetuity and I for one will be eternally grateful for those relative few that do so in order that many thousands more don't have to. If you don't like it, bite me, but the only reason you're free to say so is because of those soldiers and their sacrifices.
Rhys "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
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fat_boy wrote:
it's simplistic cack
Agreed. Idolising or reviling the military is stupid.
Everybody is elitist to a certain extent; except me - I'm better than that. Micah
Then you are both a Coward and a Fool. I served, I fought, what did you do? Cower behind your mother's apron strings? I agree that you should argue with and denigrate the fools who order soldiers to war, the politicians, but never belittle or insult the soldier. It is those that stand on the line that make your lives tolerable.
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Neither of which would have been taking place on the scale they did without the eulogising political leadership of one or more countries. Daring to invoke Godwins Law and automatically preclude any further discussion on the matter how would the atrocities of Eastern Europe during WWII have occured without the rise of the Nazi party and its ideology during the preceding 10 to 15 years? Its easy to sit back in the comfort of our own freedoms and naysay men who have lived through and experienced the most terrible and appalling experiences and to expect every single one of them to be able to hold onto all the shreds of civility and understanding that we can from our armchairs. If you send men to hell and back, don't expect them to behave like angels and don't expect the experience to leave them unchanged. They gave up much of what we call our civility or humanity in perpetuity and I for one will be eternally grateful for those relative few that do so in order that many thousands more don't have to. If you don't like it, bite me, but the only reason you're free to say so is because of those soldiers and their sacrifices.
Rhys "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
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Eh, ta guele! Je suis Anglais! ;P
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost