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  • P Peter Mulholland

    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    such as editing columns

    have you tried holding down the alt key why moving the mouse to select columns/areas or is this not what you mean?

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    That's column selection. Some editors allow you to insert and append columns.

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      What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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      Nemanja Trifunovic
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      vim, or (for smaller C# projects) VS + VsVim.

      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense.

      In fact, most text editors do offer Intellisense for most popular programming languages, although generally not as good as the one provided by VS. What I really like in VS is code browsing - ctags is just too easy to get confused. On another hand, I don't have VS solutions at work, so VS is useless in this regard; I only use it for debugging.

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        vim, or (for smaller C# projects) VS + VsVim.

        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

        But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense.

        In fact, most text editors do offer Intellisense for most popular programming languages, although generally not as good as the one provided by VS. What I really like in VS is code browsing - ctags is just too easy to get confused. On another hand, I don't have VS solutions at work, so VS is useless in this regard; I only use it for debugging.

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

        I don't have VS solutions at work,

        Really? What do you use then plan msbuild or make files?

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          For my own code, I mostly use Edit and only use VS when I design a WinForm. At work I have to use VS, but I use Edit to write little console apps to test things. Notepad is no good for code, but I use it for XML and HTML.

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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            David Crow
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            Write it on paper, then use an OCR to scan it in. That way your handwriting stays intact.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

              I don't have VS solutions at work,

              Really? What do you use then plan msbuild or make files?

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              What do you use then plan msbuild or make files?

              An in-house build system, similar to Razzle[^].

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                UltraEdit above all else.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  I rely heavily on Intellisense as my memory get worse and my mind wanders. (Wanders what the hell I'm doing) :)

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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                    wizardzz
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                    VS, for text I use edit pad lite, it is the only thing I have found that can open 1.5G+ log files.

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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                      BonshatS
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                      90% VS, 8% Vim, 2% notepad. The main reason for the differences besides what I need to do, are how long I need the file open and window position.

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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                        MikoTheTerrible
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                        Visual Studio, Eclipse and very occasionally Notepad++

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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                          YDaoust
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                          Visual Studio 101% of the time. For some special edits (in particular removing empty lines): MS Word !

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            That's column selection. Some editors allow you to insert and append columns.

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            That's been available in Visual Studio since at least VS2003.

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                            • D David Crow

                              Write it on paper, then use an OCR to scan it in. That way your handwriting stays intact.

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                              "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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                              Gary Wheeler
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                              Plus you've got the copier down the hall for easy backups.

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                                Write it on paper, then use an OCR to scan it in. That way your handwriting stays intact.

                                "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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                                edmurphy99
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                                I prefer to use edlin

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                                • G Gary Wheeler

                                  That's been available in Visual Studio since at least VS2003.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                  What column selection or insertion? Selection has been available since I started using Visual Studio in version 4.3. (Actually it was called devstudio then). You could select a column by pressing Ctrl + Shift + F10 and moving the arrow keys. How do you do column insertion in visual studio?

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    What column selection or insertion? Selection has been available since I started using Visual Studio in version 4.3. (Actually it was called devstudio then). You could select a column by pressing Ctrl + Shift + F10 and moving the arrow keys. How do you do column insertion in visual studio?

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    Hold shift+alt while you use the arrow keys to extend a rectangular selection to the right and down. You can then use cut/paste to move/copy the area.

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                                      Hold shift+alt while you use the arrow keys to extend a rectangular selection to the right and down. You can then use cut/paste to move/copy the area.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                      Oh! I am not talking about that. In an editor named Textmate, I can select a rectangular region by pression alt and arrow keys. Then when I tap on Alt and start typing, the typed text get inserted in the column. The way to accomplish the same thing in VS is to use regex find replace iafter selecting the column. That feature is useful to format the output of shell scripts as HTML.

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                                        Oh! I am not talking about that. In an editor named Textmate, I can select a rectangular region by pression alt and arrow keys. Then when I tap on Alt and start typing, the typed text get inserted in the column. The way to accomplish the same thing in VS is to use regex find replace iafter selecting the column. That feature is useful to format the output of shell scripts as HTML.

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                                        Gary Wheeler
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                                        Ah. That's a different thing entirely. My approach to doing that with VS would be to use the rectangular selection thing I described to copy/paste spaces to make the column as wide as I want, switch to overwrite, and type things as needed. Not nearly as elegant, but 'column insertion' is not something I routinely need to do.

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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          What do you use for writing code - a general purpose text editor (vi, emacs, textpad, notepad, notepad++, slickedit, textmate etc.) or an IDE (Visual Stuido, Eclipse, Aptana, Netbeans etc)? I know some people here prefer to edit in text editors. But the single most feature which I found that a general purpose text editor lacks is Intellisense. On the other hand most text editors have better support for creating templates or snippets compared to Visual Studio. There are some other specialized things which are not possible in Visual Studio such as editing columns. I revert back to text editor when I encounter those cases. Also when I am editing some language not supported by any IDE, I fall back to text editor. In general I think I use IDE 80% of time and text editors other 20% of time. What about you? [EDIT]I am only talking about editing and writing coe not debugging, compiling and profiling.[/EDIT]

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                                          Atique Rahman
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                                          For languages, projects supported by Visual Studio I use it's own IDE. For others Notepad++ does pretty good for me. :)

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