BUILD 2011. The PDC replacement and some editorialising.
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Marc A. Brown wrote:
but you do know that Silverlight is used to build Windows Phone 7 apps
I'm aware.
Marc A. Brown wrote:
And the Win8 tablet UI is basically the WP7 Metro UI expanded for a larger form factor
Seems overkill to use WPF for simplistic UI, I may be wrong.
Marc A. Brown wrote:
No reason for WPF/Silverlight to go away.
It's not going away, its just never going to be updated.
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Norm .net wrote:
It's not going away, its just never going to be updated.
Perhaps, but software projects that don't get updated tend to stagnate and die, so I would think those products will be kept up to date. Of course, I could be completely wrong -- stranger things have happened. :-D
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Why do we need a box at all? The iMac and the HP Touchsmart are great examples where we already have something on the desk, so why not whack in some memory and a DVD drive and call it done?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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And if you suddenly want to do something that doesn't come with the box?
Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
GenJerDan wrote:
And if you suddenly want to do something that doesn't come with the box?
You're iF*cked...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Why do we need a box at all? The iMac and the HP Touchsmart are great examples where we already have something on the desk, so why not whack in some memory and a DVD drive and call it done?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Among other reasons, because I like high quality displays and don't want to have to choose between tossing them yearly or having to keep loads of extra junk around for something I'm only using as a monitor. As for the HP fingersmears I'd like to modify one of them to electrify the screen to give anyone trying to gross it up a painful shock. X| X| X|
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Um... I don't know about Win8 (obviously), but you do know that Silverlight is used to build Windows Phone 7 apps, right? And the Win8 tablet UI is basically the WP7 Metro UI expanded for a larger form factor. No reason for WPF/Silverlight to go away.
Marc A. Brown wrote:
No reason for WPF/Silverlight to go away.
On the contrary - once they get a crapload of developers to invest time and money in the technology, that's a perfect opportunity for MS to yank the rug out from under everyone. Welcome to HTML5.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
GenJerDan wrote:
And if you suddenly want to do something that doesn't come with the box?
You're iF*cked...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997iKnow. My box is sitting there with a Delta 1010LT audio card, MIDI card, extra 4 USB ports card....don't think it will fit inside a monitor. :)
Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
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Instead of the usual (well, unusually usual) PDC this year we get BUILD[^] , which I'm sure was created by the same agency that gave us .NET, didn't give us a hint why it was all caps, and then provided a logo with ".net". BUILD (as it is correctly written, though the logo is //build/) will be held in September. Call me cynical but I have very clear memories of sitting in a Microsoft conference one recent September surrounded by people glued to their phones and laptops watching Apple launch something gorgeous at Apple's September launch[^]. The message is that Windows 8 changes everything (though I thought the iPhone did that, twice) and that geeks need to come and help BUILD the future. That's not an acronym. They actually want you to build the future, but they have no bold font so settled for just saying it loudly. A video of the Windows 8 UI[^] shows some of the stuff that will go into Windows .next, and while I think that it's excellent news that Microsoft is saying they are actually using one version of Windows for everything, you just know you will still be looking at "Windows 8 Professional Student Edition ARM" or "Windows 8 Small Business Edition x64". I also watched the video and though "My Dad is going to be calling me every hour, on the hour, asking how to find things and get things done. Having not seen the UI in the flesh I can't really make such a call, but the demo did leave with more questions than it answered. While I'm on my high horse I offer 3 simple requests 1. Please do simply have a single version of the consumer version Windows. Please. 2. Stop trying to be cool. It's like watching my Dad be cool. It's not cool. Just be so easy to use we forget we're using it. 3. Focus on the devices (which it seems
Epic feature requests.... :laugh: Yes please dont to these stuff, Apple is already doing it very well. Please do something different... :rolleyes:
It's a shame that stupidity can't be converted into a usable energy source.
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GenJerDan wrote:
And if you suddenly want to do something that doesn't come with the box?
You're iF*cked...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997:laugh:
It's a shame that stupidity can't be converted into a usable energy source.
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Instead of the usual (well, unusually usual) PDC this year we get BUILD[^] , which I'm sure was created by the same agency that gave us .NET, didn't give us a hint why it was all caps, and then provided a logo with ".net". BUILD (as it is correctly written, though the logo is //build/) will be held in September. Call me cynical but I have very clear memories of sitting in a Microsoft conference one recent September surrounded by people glued to their phones and laptops watching Apple launch something gorgeous at Apple's September launch[^]. The message is that Windows 8 changes everything (though I thought the iPhone did that, twice) and that geeks need to come and help BUILD the future. That's not an acronym. They actually want you to build the future, but they have no bold font so settled for just saying it loudly. A video of the Windows 8 UI[^] shows some of the stuff that will go into Windows .next, and while I think that it's excellent news that Microsoft is saying they are actually using one version of Windows for everything, you just know you will still be looking at "Windows 8 Professional Student Edition ARM" or "Windows 8 Small Business Edition x64". I also watched the video and though "My Dad is going to be calling me every hour, on the hour, asking how to find things and get things done. Having not seen the UI in the flesh I can't really make such a call, but the demo did leave with more questions than it answered. While I'm on my high horse I offer 3 simple requests 1. Please do simply have a single version of the consumer version Windows. Please. 2. Stop trying to be cool. It's like watching my Dad be cool. It's not cool. Just be so easy to use we forget we're using it. 3. Focus on the devices (which it seems
Chris Maunder wrote:
The beige box under the desk has to go.
No problem - mine is a black box under the side table. SEriously, I have looked at various all in one options and they simply don't do what I want.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
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And if you suddenly want to do something that doesn't come with the box?
Never give aversion therapy to a masochist. The results are unpredictable. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Instead of the usual (well, unusually usual) PDC this year we get BUILD[^] , which I'm sure was created by the same agency that gave us .NET, didn't give us a hint why it was all caps, and then provided a logo with ".net". BUILD (as it is correctly written, though the logo is //build/) will be held in September. Call me cynical but I have very clear memories of sitting in a Microsoft conference one recent September surrounded by people glued to their phones and laptops watching Apple launch something gorgeous at Apple's September launch[^]. The message is that Windows 8 changes everything (though I thought the iPhone did that, twice) and that geeks need to come and help BUILD the future. That's not an acronym. They actually want you to build the future, but they have no bold font so settled for just saying it loudly. A video of the Windows 8 UI[^] shows some of the stuff that will go into Windows .next, and while I think that it's excellent news that Microsoft is saying they are actually using one version of Windows for everything, you just know you will still be looking at "Windows 8 Professional Student Edition ARM" or "Windows 8 Small Business Edition x64". I also watched the video and though "My Dad is going to be calling me every hour, on the hour, asking how to find things and get things done. Having not seen the UI in the flesh I can't really make such a call, but the demo did leave with more questions than it answered. While I'm on my high horse I offer 3 simple requests 1. Please do simply have a single version of the consumer version Windows. Please. 2. Stop trying to be cool. It's like watching my Dad be cool. It's not cool. Just be so easy to use we forget we're using it. 3. Focus on the devices (which it seems
Chris Maunder wrote:
which I'm sure was created by the same agency that gave us .NET, didn't give us a hint why it was all caps, and then provided a logo with ".net".
.NET did pretty well aping Java while appealing to Windows devs > half a decade too late... If that's their strategy here, good for them. "You have to re-write your app, but we'll make it easy for you" is a much better message than the "you don't have to re-write your app... but it'll work like crap" thing they've been trying to push for tablets the past decade.
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Marc A. Brown wrote:
No reason for WPF/Silverlight to go away.
On the contrary - once they get a crapload of developers to invest time and money in the technology, that's a perfect opportunity for MS to yank the rug out from under everyone. Welcome to HTML5.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997After having spent nearly two years developing a UI with WPF, if Microsoft abandons it I will make it my personal mission to bitch-slap each and every Microsoft employee I can find.
Software Zen:
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After having spent nearly two years developing a UI with WPF, if Microsoft abandons it I will make it my personal mission to bitch-slap each and every Microsoft employee I can find.
Software Zen:
delete this;I've accepted my mission to NOT see the sunny side of any "new" technology.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Instead of the usual (well, unusually usual) PDC this year we get BUILD[^] , which I'm sure was created by the same agency that gave us .NET, didn't give us a hint why it was all caps, and then provided a logo with ".net". BUILD (as it is correctly written, though the logo is //build/) will be held in September. Call me cynical but I have very clear memories of sitting in a Microsoft conference one recent September surrounded by people glued to their phones and laptops watching Apple launch something gorgeous at Apple's September launch[^]. The message is that Windows 8 changes everything (though I thought the iPhone did that, twice) and that geeks need to come and help BUILD the future. That's not an acronym. They actually want you to build the future, but they have no bold font so settled for just saying it loudly. A video of the Windows 8 UI[^] shows some of the stuff that will go into Windows .next, and while I think that it's excellent news that Microsoft is saying they are actually using one version of Windows for everything, you just know you will still be looking at "Windows 8 Professional Student Edition ARM" or "Windows 8 Small Business Edition x64". I also watched the video and though "My Dad is going to be calling me every hour, on the hour, asking how to find things and get things done. Having not seen the UI in the flesh I can't really make such a call, but the demo did leave with more questions than it answered. While I'm on my high horse I offer 3 simple requests 1. Please do simply have a single version of the consumer version Windows. Please. 2. Stop trying to be cool. It's like watching my Dad be cool. It's not cool. Just be so easy to use we forget we're using it. 3. Focus on the devices (which it seems
I'm going to start a business, producing ScreenClear, my own invention, which is a combination of Tabasco sauce, caustic soda, and four strains of ebola. You spread it on your monitor, to ensure that cretins who touch the screen will never do so again. Anyone feel like investing?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm going to start a business, producing ScreenClear, my own invention, which is a combination of Tabasco sauce, caustic soda, and four strains of ebola. You spread it on your monitor, to ensure that cretins who touch the screen will never do so again. Anyone feel like investing?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Chris Maunder wrote:
The beige box under the desk has to go.
No problem - mine is a black box under the side table. SEriously, I have looked at various all in one options and they simply don't do what I want.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP
Trollslayer wrote:
have looked at various all in one options and they simply don't do what I want.
yet.
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Dan Neely wrote:
Do you have a glossy prospectus?
Look, it's just receding, OK?!? And it's not my fault; it's the testosterone!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Dan Neely wrote:
Do you have a glossy prospectus?
Look, it's just receding, OK?!? And it's not my fault; it's the testosterone!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Real men shine.
Software Zen:
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Why do we need a box at all? The iMac and the HP Touchsmart are great examples where we already have something on the desk, so why not whack in some memory and a DVD drive and call it done?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
"Why do we need a box at all?" Because most of the non-iDevice people want to have choice in hardware.