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    Marc Clifton
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    Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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      Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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      Most folks were saying it's atmospheric refraction - albeit an extremely rare form of it - similar to the effect that causes sun dogs.

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        Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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        Pete OHanlon
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        It depends. Typically there are two reasons for this - if the sun is shown side by side, it normally means that the image has been shot through a window or a plane filter is on the camera. If the suns are further apart, then it's probably ice particles in the atmosphere resulting in the light being bent.

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          Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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          wizardzz
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          It just means you're on Tatooine.

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            Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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            LloydA111
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            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog[^] Although this looks a LOT different to the images on Google.


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              Most folks were saying it's atmospheric refraction - albeit an extremely rare form of it - similar to the effect that causes sun dogs.

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              Hmmm, doesn't refraction usually only produce one image, though offset from where one would expect the image to be?

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                Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                AspDotNetDev
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                Light from the Sun reflecting light off of a mostly cloud-filled sky which then reflects intensely off the Moon back to Earth, making the Moon look like a second star?

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                  Hmmm, doesn't refraction usually only produce one image, though offset from where one would expect the image to be?

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                  If you only have one refractive boundary (like between air and a body of water), then yes. But the refraction boundaries we're talking about here are between the air and millions of individual ice crystals which will cause millions of individual images and, depending on the viewing angle and local accumulation and angle of those crystals, cause things like Sun Dogs.

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                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog[^] Although this looks a LOT different to the images on Google.


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                    Do sun dogs remind anyone else of the eye of Sauron?

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                      Abhi Lahare
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                      If I remember correctly it was a year back this news was floating all over web. I come across this[^] site which verifies any hoax. HTH

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                        Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                        Graham Shanks
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                        Not sure I can help that much - this is the best general link I found[^] Like other people have said, I think that this is an atmospheric phenomenon related to sun dogs - the Hong Kong Observatory web site has a good explanation of the science of sun dogs[^]

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                          Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! OK, you just beat me to it. :-O

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                            Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                            DaveAuld
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                            It has nothing to do with ice crystals, refraction, blah blah blah. Just put down the bottle of booze, stub out that reefer, throw away the pills, and go and lie down for a couple of days :)

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                              Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                              Roger Wright
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                              It's the beer, Marc... C'mon, you can admit it to us. ;)

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                                Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                                dan sh
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                                It's poor photography. :) See these[^] two photographs I clicked. I hope you can spot two moons there.

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                                  Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                                  Lost User
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                                  The chinese one seems to me to be one sun with some clouds in front of it - so the sun is larger and covered except for the two bits you can see

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                                    Here's a google images link[^] Now, I've actually seen this effect a few times myself, especially over the Pacific ocean. The problem is, the web is currently inundated with the new ager's claiming all sorts of BS, so finding some science about this effect is proving a bit hard (for me at least). Anyone have a link to some good science explaining this? I can pretty much figure out that it's an atmospheric effect, but I'd like something with some authority describing it. I want to provide something concrete for a friend of mine that's, well, been rather sun-struck by this. :rolleyes: In the meantime, I'll keep googling. Marc

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                                    It's simple: we do have two suns. Just one of them is shy, and tends to hide behind the other.

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