Amazing Sytem User
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I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it. One user was explaining to me a module that i completely do not know its business process, then the user wants me to improve it by bringing new ideas on business operation :laugh:
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
5fingers wrote:
I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.
It? System Users are not It, they are He, She or They. Also, before doing PHD learn that when talking of oneself, the letter used is I, not i. (Always use the majuscule). As for the rest, then you will find users are the best bug-finding tool around. They also are great when trying to explain things to, for you have to be so detailed and simplified that you understand what you are doing :)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it. One user was explaining to me a module that i completely do not know its business process, then the user wants me to improve it by bringing new ideas on business operation :laugh:
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
... and the punchline?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it. One user was explaining to me a module that i completely do not know its business process, then the user wants me to improve it by bringing new ideas on business operation :laugh:
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
This is normal - so? Users know their processes, not yours. You know your process, and not theirs. Listen to your users - it can only improve the software for both groups...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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... and the punchline?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
I think that was the punchline :~
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I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it. One user was explaining to me a module that i completely do not know its business process, then the user wants me to improve it by bringing new ideas on business operation :laugh:
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
This is not unusual. Once they have explained the process to you, and you have grasped what they want, they typically want you to suggest ways that a system could help to improved their ability to perform the process. They are not asking you to change the business process; they are asking you to write something to help them do it. The key words here are operation and process - they provide the process, and you provide the ability to perform the actual operation of the process. Don't think that they think you are such a superman that only you can improve their processes. That's just vanity.
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5fingers wrote:
I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.
It? System Users are not It, they are He, She or They. Also, before doing PHD learn that when talking of oneself, the letter used is I, not i. (Always use the majuscule). As for the rest, then you will find users are the best bug-finding tool around. They also are great when trying to explain things to, for you have to be so detailed and simplified that you understand what you are doing :)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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Thank for correction. English is not my first language. I speak and write pure Luo (language in Africa). I may even come up with compatible OS and compiler in Luo.
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
5fingers wrote:
I may even come up with compatible OS and compiler in Luo.
Somebody already beat you to it[^]
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.
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5fingers wrote:
I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.
It? System Users are not It, they are He, She or They. Also, before doing PHD learn that when talking of oneself, the letter used is I, not i. (Always use the majuscule). As for the rest, then you will find users are the best bug-finding tool around. They also are great when trying to explain things to, for you have to be so detailed and simplified that you understand what you are doing :)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.
It?
System Users are not It, they are He, She or They.In this case it could be 'them' but its better to say 'the subject of system users' and then use 'it' as he did. You could probably get away with 'system-users' to identify it as a distinct object (as opposed to a group of people), and then use 'it' too.
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.
It?
System Users are not It, they are He, She or They.In this case it could be 'them' but its better to say 'the subject of system users' and then use 'it' as he did. You could probably get away with 'system-users' to identify it as a distinct object (as opposed to a group of people), and then use 'it' too.
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
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Thank you, it in this case means the subject. "system users", not people.
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
Yeah, i could see what you were getting at, there is a confusion between 'system users' as a group of peopls and 'system users' as an object, an entity, or area of study in its own right in English, so you need to make it obvious which one you mean. Compare: I met the system users, they were good. I studied system-users at college, it was good. I studied to subject of system users at college, it was good. See how using 'subject' or '-' makes it read better. English is very flexible about using words to create objects, as is German, but unlike German which groups those words together, English doesnt. This accounts for the massive long object names you get in German. Here, you would say 'Systemusers' if it were German. Using the hyphen acchieves the same thing without offending the eye quite so much. The reason I mention German is because English is fundamentally a German language and while it borrows a lot from French, French lacks this flexibility: I came across a good example of English's flexibility when in French, a language I speak, I came across the word for 'iron' (for doing clothes). In French its 'fer a repasser' (iron for re-passing). In English you can re-arrange these to form 're-passing iron' but you cant in French. When I did, and called it a 'repass fer' the French guys were all horrified at my abuse of French. :)
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.
It?
System Users are not It, they are He, She or They.In this case it could be 'them' but its better to say 'the subject of system users' and then use 'it' as he did. You could probably get away with 'system-users' to identify it as a distinct object (as opposed to a group of people), and then use 'it' too.
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
I am amazed you feel able to comment on the grammatical construction of a sentence given how bad your English is. Barely a posting goes by without you making at least one spelling error or a synecdochical error or the occasional solecism.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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I am amazed you feel able to comment on the grammatical construction of a sentence given how bad your English is. Barely a posting goes by without you making at least one spelling error or a synecdochical error or the occasional solecism.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
given how bad your English is.
You really think so? You mistake my crap typing for bad spelling, and, my bad spelling for bad knowledge of English. :) Fact is, I know English very well. After all, I am actually English and very well educated. And I mean very well. ( I was probably the only one here who recognised when you were trying to construct a sentence entirely in Old English derived words, and spotted the single mistake you made in using a French derived one. Believe me, because I speak French and Dutch (to a certain degree) I understand very well English because I understand the two roots from which it evolved. The problem is that since I use French predominantly these days my English spelling has really gone to pot. Unsurprising since it is such an illogically spelt language, and French, being Latin based, is far more predictable. As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech. :)
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
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Dalek Dave wrote:
given how bad your English is.
You really think so? You mistake my crap typing for bad spelling, and, my bad spelling for bad knowledge of English. :) Fact is, I know English very well. After all, I am actually English and very well educated. And I mean very well. ( I was probably the only one here who recognised when you were trying to construct a sentence entirely in Old English derived words, and spotted the single mistake you made in using a French derived one. Believe me, because I speak French and Dutch (to a certain degree) I understand very well English because I understand the two roots from which it evolved. The problem is that since I use French predominantly these days my English spelling has really gone to pot. Unsurprising since it is such an illogically spelt language, and French, being Latin based, is far more predictable. As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech. :)
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
FAT_BOY wrote:
As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech
I didn't see that in the rules, please point it out for me :) Casual speech is one thing, but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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FAT_BOY wrote:
As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech
I didn't see that in the rules, please point it out for me :) Casual speech is one thing, but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
oblitierised
I think you'll find the word is 'obliterficated'. :laugh:
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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FAT_BOY wrote:
As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech
I didn't see that in the rules, please point it out for me :) Casual speech is one thing, but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised
And yet Shakespere (of whose name there are many spellings too) invented something like 2000 words. And he is exemplified as the pinacle of English writing. :) --edit-- You see English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change. For gods sake lets not lock it down in a stratjacket of ponderous dull rules like French is. It would lose its real value if it were.
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
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Dalek Dave wrote:
but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised
And yet Shakespere (of whose name there are many spellings too) invented something like 2000 words. And he is exemplified as the pinacle of English writing. :) --edit-- You see English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change. For gods sake lets not lock it down in a stratjacket of ponderous dull rules like French is. It would lose its real value if it were.
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
When you guys boast and chew your supreme linguistics, why should I not have a reason to speak mine too and boast of its fine constructs. In Luo language a lawyer is called "Okilkamaloka" come here means "Bika" It is raining means "Koth chwe" In simple: I-----"a" me ---"an" you---"un"(many) "in"(single) they--"gin" here---"ka" come--"bi" boy --"wuoyi" girl--"nyako" love--"hera" i love a girl --- "a hero nyako" come here "bika"
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
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5fingers wrote:
I may even come up with compatible OS and compiler in Luo.
Somebody already beat you to it[^]
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.
It's 'Luo', not 'Lua'
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Dalek Dave wrote:
but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised
And yet Shakespere (of whose name there are many spellings too) invented something like 2000 words. And he is exemplified as the pinacle of English writing. :) --edit-- You see English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change. For gods sake lets not lock it down in a stratjacket of ponderous dull rules like French is. It would lose its real value if it were.
“Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist
You mentioned that "English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change." Just think, what if programming languages had been invented in France using French, rather than English? How many programming languages would have evolved? Would we be using a French version of COBOL or FORTRAN? Would have these languages evolved to include objects? There may be a PhD project here.
