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  • L Lost User

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.

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    System Users are not It, they are He, She or They.

    In this case it could be 'them' but its better to say 'the subject of system users' and then use 'it' as he did. You could probably get away with 'system-users' to identify it as a distinct object (as opposed to a group of people), and then use 'it' too.

    “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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    Lost User
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    Thank you, it in this case means the subject. "system users", not people.

    I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

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      Thank you, it in this case means the subject. "system users", not people.

      I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

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      Lost User
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      Yeah, i could see what you were getting at, there is a confusion between 'system users' as a group of peopls and 'system users' as an object, an entity, or area of study in its own right in English, so you need to make it obvious which one you mean. Compare: I met the system users, they were good. I studied system-users at college, it was good. I studied to subject of system users at college, it was good. See how using 'subject' or '-' makes it read better. English is very flexible about using words to create objects, as is German, but unlike German which groups those words together, English doesnt. This accounts for the massive long object names you get in German. Here, you would say 'Systemusers' if it were German. Using the hyphen acchieves the same thing without offending the eye quite so much. The reason I mention German is because English is fundamentally a German language and while it borrows a lot from French, French lacks this flexibility: I came across a good example of English's flexibility when in French, a language I speak, I came across the word for 'iron' (for doing clothes). In French its 'fer a repasser' (iron for re-passing). In English you can re-arrange these to form 're-passing iron' but you cant in French. When I did, and called it a 'repass fer' the French guys were all horrified at my abuse of French. :)

      “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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      • L Lost User

        Dalek Dave wrote:

        I have got much interest in system users and i should do my phd in it.

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        System Users are not It, they are He, She or They.

        In this case it could be 'them' but its better to say 'the subject of system users' and then use 'it' as he did. You could probably get away with 'system-users' to identify it as a distinct object (as opposed to a group of people), and then use 'it' too.

        “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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        Dalek Dave
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        I am amazed you feel able to comment on the grammatical construction of a sentence given how bad your English is. Barely a posting goes by without you making at least one spelling error or a synecdochical error or the occasional solecism.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          I am amazed you feel able to comment on the grammatical construction of a sentence given how bad your English is. Barely a posting goes by without you making at least one spelling error or a synecdochical error or the occasional solecism.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          given how bad your English is.

          You really think so? You mistake my crap typing for bad spelling, and, my bad spelling for bad knowledge of English. :) Fact is, I know English very well. After all, I am actually English and very well educated. And I mean very well. ( I was probably the only one here who recognised when you were trying to construct a sentence entirely in Old English derived words, and spotted the single mistake you made in using a French derived one. Believe me, because I speak French and Dutch (to a certain degree) I understand very well English because I understand the two roots from which it evolved. The problem is that since I use French predominantly these days my English spelling has really gone to pot. Unsurprising since it is such an illogically spelt language, and French, being Latin based, is far more predictable. As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech. :)

          “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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          • L Lost User

            Dalek Dave wrote:

            given how bad your English is.

            You really think so? You mistake my crap typing for bad spelling, and, my bad spelling for bad knowledge of English. :) Fact is, I know English very well. After all, I am actually English and very well educated. And I mean very well. ( I was probably the only one here who recognised when you were trying to construct a sentence entirely in Old English derived words, and spotted the single mistake you made in using a French derived one. Believe me, because I speak French and Dutch (to a certain degree) I understand very well English because I understand the two roots from which it evolved. The problem is that since I use French predominantly these days my English spelling has really gone to pot. Unsurprising since it is such an illogically spelt language, and French, being Latin based, is far more predictable. As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech. :)

            “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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            Dalek Dave
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            FAT_BOY wrote:

            As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech

            I didn't see that in the rules, please point it out for me :) Casual speech is one thing, but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised.

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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            • D Dalek Dave

              FAT_BOY wrote:

              As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech

              I didn't see that in the rules, please point it out for me :) Casual speech is one thing, but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              oblitierised

              I think you'll find the word is 'obliterficated'. :laugh:


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              • D Dalek Dave

                FAT_BOY wrote:

                As for synechdochials and solecisms, dont forget, this is the internet, its supposed to be casual speech

                I didn't see that in the rules, please point it out for me :) Casual speech is one thing, but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised.

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                Lost User
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised

                And yet Shakespere (of whose name there are many spellings too) invented something like 2000 words. And he is exemplified as the pinacle of English writing. :) --edit-- You see English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change. For gods sake lets not lock it down in a stratjacket of ponderous dull rules like French is. It would lose its real value if it were.

                “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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                • L Lost User

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised

                  And yet Shakespere (of whose name there are many spellings too) invented something like 2000 words. And he is exemplified as the pinacle of English writing. :) --edit-- You see English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change. For gods sake lets not lock it down in a stratjacket of ponderous dull rules like French is. It would lose its real value if it were.

                  “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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                  When you guys boast and chew your supreme linguistics, why should I not have a reason to speak mine too and boast of its fine constructs. In Luo language a lawyer is called "Okilkamaloka" come here means "Bika" It is raining means "Koth chwe" In simple: I-----"a" me ---"an" you---"un"(many) "in"(single) they--"gin" here---"ka" come--"bi" boy --"wuoyi" girl--"nyako" love--"hera" i love a girl --- "a hero nyako" come here "bika"

                  I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

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                  • S Sahir Shah

                    5fingers wrote:

                    I may even come up with compatible OS and compiler in Luo.

                    Somebody already beat you to it[^]

                    Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

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                    mrchief_2000
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                    It's 'Luo', not 'Lua'

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                    • L Lost User

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      but blatant wrongyfications need to be oblitierised

                      And yet Shakespere (of whose name there are many spellings too) invented something like 2000 words. And he is exemplified as the pinacle of English writing. :) --edit-- You see English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change. For gods sake lets not lock it down in a stratjacket of ponderous dull rules like French is. It would lose its real value if it were.

                      “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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                      James Lonero
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                      You mentioned that "English always was, and should remain, a flexible language open to invention and change." Just think, what if programming languages had been invented in France using French, rather than English? How many programming languages would have evolved? Would we be using a French version of COBOL or FORTRAN? Would have these languages evolved to include objects? There may be a PhD project here.

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