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50 YEARS of cold winters

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  • H hairy_hats

    He's behindbelow you!

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    Dalek Dave
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    I am strangely uncomfortable with the idea of him being either behind or below me.

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      I am strangely uncomfortable with the idea of him being either behind or below me.

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      loveangel888
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      Think again, you should be glad that he's not above you.

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      • M Munchies_Matt

        fat_boy got deleted, then Fat_Boy got reported as a troll, and he got deleted, so fat__boy has incarnated. :) Ger Hayden is obviously someone who doesnt mind discussing what has oft beenn touted as the defining issue of our generation. Unlike some here. :)

        "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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        fat__boy wrote:

        Ger Hayden is obviously someone who hasn't spotted what happens to climate-related posts in the Lounge

        FTFY.

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        • D Dalek Dave

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          Its not a new theory, Herschel, the Royal Astronomer, noted a correlation between sun spot activity and the price of grain.

          Amazing fact, but True.

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          I thought that global temperature was linked to the number of pirates. :-D Changes in sunspot activity that apparently cause temperature changes on Earth don't cause corresponding temperature changes on Mars, so I am suspicious of claims of a direct link.

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          • H hairy_hats

            I thought that global temperature was linked to the number of pirates. :-D Changes in sunspot activity that apparently cause temperature changes on Earth don't cause corresponding temperature changes on Mars, so I am suspicious of claims of a direct link.

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            Mars is a) much further away and b) has a very much thinner atmosphere and c) has no ocean to stabilise the temperature.

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            • D Dalek Dave

              Mars is a) much further away and b) has a very much thinner atmosphere and c) has no ocean to stabilise the temperature.

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              If (c) was a factor then sunspots should have more of an effect.

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                Mars is a) much further away and b) has a very much thinner atmosphere and c) has no ocean to stabilise the temperature.

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                So there are no pirates on Mars?


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                • H hairy_hats

                  If (c) was a factor then sunspots should have more of an effect.

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  No, for it is dynamic stability. Otherwise we would be boiling all day and freezing at night. The sunspots are indicators of a long term solar output, not the cause of the fluctuations.

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    So there are no pirates on Mars?


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    There are pyramids and an ancient Osiran God.

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      So there are no pirates on Mars?


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      Firo Atrum Ventus
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                      There is, 100 years in the future

                      A hidden needle is way more effective than an unsheathed sword.

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        fat__boy wrote:

                        Ger Hayden is obviously someone who hasn't spotted what happens to climate-related posts in the Lounge

                        FTFY.

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                        Ger Hayden
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                        Must admit - that had escaped me. ...Although I am thinking of another one for the end of the month where I draw reference to a weatherman whose 'scientific forcasting' had prediced temperatures of up to 33 C for these parts this month. Most days we are lucky to get 13 C... I wonder how he gets if funding

                        Ger

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          There are pyramids and an ancient Osiran God.

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                          chethu665
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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Osirian

                          FTFY! :)

                          "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" -Pascal

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                          • M Munchies_Matt

                            fat_boy got deleted, then Fat_Boy got reported as a troll, and he got deleted, so fat__boy has incarnated. :) Ger Hayden is obviously someone who doesnt mind discussing what has oft beenn touted as the defining issue of our generation. Unlike some here. :)

                            "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            I don't discuss it because I know enough to know that I don't know enough about the science behind the global warming debate to be able to have a reasoned discussion on it; so I leave the topic well alone.

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              There are pyramids and an ancient Osiran God.

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                              hairy_hats
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                              With a mysterious hand that holds down his cushion as he stands up!

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                No, for it is dynamic stability. Otherwise we would be boiling all day and freezing at night. The sunspots are indicators of a long term solar output, not the cause of the fluctuations.

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                                hairy_hats
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                                But the average day and night-time temperatures would have changed with sunspot activity if there was a link, and they didn't.

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                                • H hairy_hats

                                  I thought that global temperature was linked to the number of pirates. :-D Changes in sunspot activity that apparently cause temperature changes on Earth don't cause corresponding temperature changes on Mars, so I am suspicious of claims of a direct link.

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  Mars does not have a water vapour atmosphere that can form clouds thus the interplay between cosmic rays and solar wind is not the same. However, in respect of the variability of the suns production of heat, then this does affect mars: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html[^]

                                  "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    So there are no pirates on Mars?


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                    Lost User
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                                    No, but in Cydonia there are some knights :)

                                    "I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
                                    I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      No, for it is dynamic stability. Otherwise we would be boiling all day and freezing at night. The sunspots are indicators of a long term solar output, not the cause of the fluctuations.

                                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      No, for it is dynamic stability.
                                      Otherwise we would be boiling all day and freezing at night.

                                      Yeah, between the oceans and the atmosphere we have a relatively stable diurnal temperature. The moon by comparison, the same distance from the sun goes from -150 to +100. As for the relative strengths of the sea and atmosphere, consider the Sahara which has a very dry, ie low GH gas, atmosphere above it. -10 to +50 or so is the resulting range.

                                      "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        No, but in Cydonia there are some knights :)

                                        "I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011 ---
                                        I am endeavoring, Madam, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins - Mr. Spock 1935 and me 2011

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                                        Munchies_Matt
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                                        :) Not a bad song that either!

                                        "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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                                        • C chethu665

                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          Osirian

                                          FTFY! :)

                                          "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" -Pascal

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                                          Dalek Dave
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                                          Sutekh[^] was an Osiran. Not an Osirian.

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