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  • M Majerus

    Hope she goes to prison for the rest of her life. She murdered a man in cold blood in one of the most horrible ways imaginable.

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    Had it been my daughter, I would have been much more imaginative. Certainly he would be begging for death at the end. I am no doctor, but I would have kept him alive for weeks. Slowly hacking bits off him, shredding the skin from his body, making him eat and swallow his own testicles, then making him eat the shit of his own testicles. Finally, at the end I would offer him a choice. Beg for death or I would blind, deafen and quadriplegise him.

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      Majerus wrote:

      Hope she goes to prison for the rest of her life.

      I don't.

      Majerus wrote:

      She murdered a man in cold blood

      No she didn't...at least I don't see it that way.

      Majerus wrote:

      in one of the most horrible ways imaginable.

      Is there any other way?

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      Slacker007 wrote:

      No she didn't...at least I don't see it that way.

      How is it not murder?

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        Had it been my daughter, I would have been much more imaginative. Certainly he would be begging for death at the end. I am no doctor, but I would have kept him alive for weeks. Slowly hacking bits off him, shredding the skin from his body, making him eat and swallow his own testicles, then making him eat the shit of his own testicles. Finally, at the end I would offer him a choice. Beg for death or I would blind, deafen and quadriplegise him.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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        And if you did, I would be happy to hear that you ended up behind bars for the rest of your life.

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          Even if she understood and accepted the price she would pay? The decision not to act is a decision in itself. Was this right? No. Was it the lesser wrong? That is the difficult one since it is clear the original from the rapist's attitude attack wasn't a one off.

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          Oh, I agree with completely. I was referring to the fact that we, as a people, are not allowed to do what must be done because it would eventually lead to complete Anarchy and chaos. I, personally, don't see anything wrong with what she did but that's me.

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            A Spanish mother has taken revenge on the man who raped her 13-year-old daughter at knifepoint by dousing him in petrol and setting him alight. He died of his injuries in hospital on Friday. Antonio Cosme Velasco Soriano, 69, had been sent to jail for nine years in 1998, but was let out on a three-day pass and returned to his home town of Benejúzar, 30 miles south of Alicante, on the Costa Blanca. While there, he passed his victim’s mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack. He is said to have called out “How’s your daughter?”, before heading into a crowded bar. Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out.[^] Hope they give her a medal.

            The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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            Oakman wrote:

            who raped her 13-year-old daughter at knifepoint

            Bet the tart was dressed like a slaper, had taunted him all night and was asking for it. :mad: (Disclaimer: Every thing said in this post is a joke and in no way portrays the real feeling of the poster) .

            "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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            • S Slacker007

              Do you know that a burglar can sue you (and win) for hurting them while you are defending your family and property from the intruder? (United States). There is no justice. Justice is a theory and has no proof.

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              Slacker007 wrote:

              burglar can sue you (and win) for hurting them

              All the more reason to not leave them hurt. Castle doctrine FTW.

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                Oh, I agree with completely. I was referring to the fact that we, as a people, are not allowed to do what must be done because it would eventually lead to complete Anarchy and chaos. I, personally, don't see anything wrong with what she did but that's me.

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                Lost User
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                There is one positive thing from this thread - instead of an argument we had a reasonable discussion. Even if we had fundamentally disagreed I am pleased to say I would have respected your opinion in this matter. Scary innit?

                Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP

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                • L Lost User

                  You can get life imprisonment here in England[^].(For protecting your property).

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                  Lost User
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                  A completely different case - partly because he had repeatedly threatened to shoot any police officer who walked up the path to his house. For this reason alone he should not have had a shotgun. Also, he shot the burglar as the burglar was leaving so the threat was no longer there and had refused to report any crimes to the police so the police couldn't do anything.

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^] "Program as if the technical support department is full of serial killers and they know your home address" - Ray Cassick Jr., RIP

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                  • M Majerus

                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    No she didn't...at least I don't see it that way.

                    How is it not murder?

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                    I didn't say it was not murder. I said that I don't think that it was "cold blooded" murder; I personally think their is a big difference between the two. Cold-blooded murder, to me, is when a person murder's someone for no reason. I think she had a good enough reason and if I was the judge I may have given her 6 month's probation and a medal of honor.

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      Oakman wrote:

                      who raped her 13-year-old daughter at knifepoint

                      Bet the tart was dressed like a slaper, had taunted him all night and was asking for it. :mad: (Disclaimer: Every thing said in this post is a joke and in no way portrays the real feeling of the poster) .

                      "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/

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                      fat__boy wrote:

                      Every thing said in this post is a joke

                      Really? Can you point out the funny part?

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                      • M Majerus

                        And if you did, I would be happy to hear that you ended up behind bars for the rest of your life.

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                        Slacker007
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                        I could be wrong here, I usually am, but I'm going to guess that you don't have any children of your own.

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                        • S Slacker007

                          I didn't say it was not murder. I said that I don't think that it was "cold blooded" murder; I personally think their is a big difference between the two. Cold-blooded murder, to me, is when a person murder's someone for no reason. I think she had a good enough reason and if I was the judge I may have given her 6 month's probation and a medal of honor.

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                          Majerus
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                          Slacker007 wrote:

                          Cold-blooded murder, to me, is when a person murder's someone for no reason

                          Not really the dictionary definition("without emotion or feeling; dispassionate; cruel"), but then I didn't really use it very well either. It wasn't emotionless, but it was cruel.

                          Slacker007 wrote:

                          I think she had a good enough reason

                          Never a good reason for murder. Understandable, but not justifiable. Absolutely nothing honorable about burning someone to death.

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                            I could be wrong here, I usually am, but I'm going to guess that you don't have any children of your own.

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                            Majerus
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                            Murder is still murder, reagardless of how many children I have.

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                            • J Joe Simes

                              fat__boy wrote:

                              Every thing said in this post is a joke

                              Really? Can you point out the funny part?

                              The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card

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                              Joe Simes wrote:

                              Can you point out the funny part?

                              No. Fat body can't point out the funny part because he's a tard.

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                              • M Majerus

                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                Cold-blooded murder, to me, is when a person murder's someone for no reason

                                Not really the dictionary definition("without emotion or feeling; dispassionate; cruel"), but then I didn't really use it very well either. It wasn't emotionless, but it was cruel.

                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                I think she had a good enough reason

                                Never a good reason for murder. Understandable, but not justifiable. Absolutely nothing honorable about burning someone to death.

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                                Slacker007
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                                Well, we agree to disagree.

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                                  Slacker007 wrote:

                                  burglar can sue you (and win) for hurting them

                                  All the more reason to not leave them hurt. Castle doctrine FTW.

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                                  GenJerDan
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                                  thrakazog wrote:

                                  burglar can sue you (and win) for hurting them

                                  All the more reason to not leave them hurt.

                                  Same thing the police are told in training. (Quietly)

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                                  • S Slacker007

                                    Trollslayer wrote:

                                    How many other rapes did she prevent?

                                    Exactly. :thumbsup: However, it is not your responsibility to dish out justice therefore you are wrong and always will be wrong in thinking so and acting so. One of the greatest crimes against humanity IMHO.

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                                    Slacker007 wrote:

                                    However, it is not your responsibility to dish out justice therefore you are wrong and always will be wrong in thinking so and acting so. One of the greatest crimes against humanity IMHO.

                                    It's the Billy Budd scenario once again. I would argue that the law does not determine what is a good action or an evil action. It determines the (il)legality which is far from being the same thing. Nonetheless your point that we either have rule by law or rule by men and the later ultimately offers less good for the greater number is well made.

                                    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                                    • M Majerus

                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      Cold-blooded murder, to me, is when a person murder's someone for no reason

                                      Not really the dictionary definition("without emotion or feeling; dispassionate; cruel"), but then I didn't really use it very well either. It wasn't emotionless, but it was cruel.

                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      I think she had a good enough reason

                                      Never a good reason for murder. Understandable, but not justifiable. Absolutely nothing honorable about burning someone to death.

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                                      Majerus wrote:

                                      Never a good reason for murder. Understandable, but not justifiable. Absolutely nothing honorable about burning someone to death.

                                      Have you or someone close to you that you love been raped? Has someone close to you been deliberately killed in a violent way? Has either of those happened to someone that you were specifically supposed to be looking out for (such as a child)? If you answer is no then perhaps someone to which that has happened might have a different viewpoint.

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                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        Never a good reason for murder. Understandable, but not justifiable. Absolutely nothing honorable about burning someone to death.

                                        Have you or someone close to you that you love been raped? Has someone close to you been deliberately killed in a violent way? Has either of those happened to someone that you were specifically supposed to be looking out for (such as a child)? If you answer is no then perhaps someone to which that has happened might have a different viewpoint.

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                                        Majerus
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                                        jschell wrote:

                                        someone to which that has happened might have a different viewpoint.

                                        They might indeed. Like I said "Understandable, but not justifiable."

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                                          A Spanish mother has taken revenge on the man who raped her 13-year-old daughter at knifepoint by dousing him in petrol and setting him alight. He died of his injuries in hospital on Friday. Antonio Cosme Velasco Soriano, 69, had been sent to jail for nine years in 1998, but was let out on a three-day pass and returned to his home town of Benejúzar, 30 miles south of Alicante, on the Costa Blanca. While there, he passed his victim’s mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack. He is said to have called out “How’s your daughter?”, before heading into a crowded bar. Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out.[^] Hope they give her a medal.

                                          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                                          Why did a rapist get a 3 day "pass" that allowed him (rapist serving time) to legally enter a crowded bar? Why weren't the victims notified of his release or "pass"? What he said could be seen as intimidating/threatening a witness/victim, I hope she gets a good lawyer. If OJ walked, so could she.

                                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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