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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    I can't move it, and I wouldn't as I don't think anything is wrong with the joke. But I see some prejudiced perps downvoted to have the message removed.

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
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    ahmed zahmed wrote:

    prejudiced

    Remind me, how are the downvoters prejudiced?

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      it's an old, well-known, racist joke. the color changes depending on who's feeling superior, but the sentiment remains the same.

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      Chris Losinger wrote:

      well-known

      Really? Today's the first time I've heard/seen it. And I'm not feeling particularly superior. And in any case I saw it as an indictment of the welfare system, not of it's recipients. Like I said, your posting says a lot about *your* attitudes and it aint pretty.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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        ahmed zahmed wrote:

        prejudiced

        Remind me, how are the downvoters prejudiced?

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        by judging 1) before they know the facts, and 2) without understanding intent, and 3) without knowing the poster, and 4) by assigning motives to the poster (which says more about the downvoter than about the poster)

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

          Chris Losinger wrote:

          well-known

          Really? Today's the first time I've heard/seen it. And I'm not feeling particularly superior. And in any case I saw it as an indictment of the welfare system, not of it's recipients. Like I said, your posting says a lot about *your* attitudes and it aint pretty.

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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          ahmed zahmed wrote:

          Really? Today's the first time I've heard/seen it

          here's a nice prominent example: http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/virginia-gop-chair-sends-racist-welfare-black-dog-email/[^] yes, his dog was black. your dogs were "mixed". there are plenty of examples on the net where the 'mixed' implies racially impure. also, the "lazy", "doesn't speak English", "doesn't know who his daddy is", etc. stuff is boilerplate racist garbage.

          ahmed zahmed wrote:

          And in any case I saw it as an indictment of the welfare system, not of it's recipients.

          and so that's why you left all those negative stereotypes in there.

          ahmed zahmed wrote:

          Like I said, your posting says a lot about *your* attitudes and it aint pretty.

          you can say that however much you want. it still won't mean anything.

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            by judging 1) before they know the facts, and 2) without understanding intent, and 3) without knowing the poster, and 4) by assigning motives to the poster (which says more about the downvoter than about the poster)

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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            1. What are the facts? 2) What is the intent? 3) What about the poster? 4) What motivated you?

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              ahmed zahmed wrote:

              Really? Today's the first time I've heard/seen it

              here's a nice prominent example: http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/virginia-gop-chair-sends-racist-welfare-black-dog-email/[^] yes, his dog was black. your dogs were "mixed". there are plenty of examples on the net where the 'mixed' implies racially impure. also, the "lazy", "doesn't speak English", "doesn't know who his daddy is", etc. stuff is boilerplate racist garbage.

              ahmed zahmed wrote:

              And in any case I saw it as an indictment of the welfare system, not of it's recipients.

              and so that's why you left all those negative stereotypes in there.

              ahmed zahmed wrote:

              Like I said, your posting says a lot about *your* attitudes and it aint pretty.

              you can say that however much you want. it still won't mean anything.

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              Chris Losinger wrote:

              you can say that however much you want. it still won't mean anything

              ditto

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                Really? Today's the first time I've heard/seen it

                here's a nice prominent example: http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/virginia-gop-chair-sends-racist-welfare-black-dog-email/[^] yes, his dog was black. your dogs were "mixed". there are plenty of examples on the net where the 'mixed' implies racially impure. also, the "lazy", "doesn't speak English", "doesn't know who his daddy is", etc. stuff is boilerplate racist garbage.

                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                And in any case I saw it as an indictment of the welfare system, not of it's recipients.

                and so that's why you left all those negative stereotypes in there.

                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                Like I said, your posting says a lot about *your* attitudes and it aint pretty.

                you can say that however much you want. it still won't mean anything.

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                *You* are the one that read race into it. I didn't put it there. It's not the way I read it nor understood it. Maybe that makes me a simpleton, but that's the way my mind works. I don't read race into everything I see or read.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                  1. What are the facts? 2) What is the intent? 3) What about the poster? 4) What motivated you?

                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                  -Or-
                  A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  1. I'm a nice, non-prejudiced guy who doesn't see anything wrong with people needing gov't help now and then 2) to make a funny swipe at our government and welfare system 3) see (1) 4) to have some fun at the expense of the government and hopefully to amuse some of you.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    *You* are the one that read race into it. I didn't put it there. It's not the way I read it nor understood it. Maybe that makes me a simpleton, but that's the way my mind works. I don't read race into everything I see or read.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                    *You* are the one that read race into it. I didn't put it there.

                    it's impossible not to read race into it. the thing is full of racial stereotypes, and it has a long history of use as a racist joke. if that wasn't your intent, fine. i'll take your word for it. but maybe reading a little closer next time would be prudent.

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                      ahmed zahmed wrote:

                      *You* are the one that read race into it. I didn't put it there.

                      it's impossible not to read race into it. the thing is full of racial stereotypes, and it has a long history of use as a racist joke. if that wasn't your intent, fine. i'll take your word for it. but maybe reading a little closer next time would be prudent.

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                      Pre counteracted the univote coming your way :)

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                        Pre counteracted the univote coming your way :)

                        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                        :laugh:

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          *You* are the one that read race into it. I didn't put it there. It's not the way I read it nor understood it. Maybe that makes me a simpleton, but that's the way my mind works. I don't read race into everything I see or read.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                          ahmed zahmed wrote:

                          *You* are the one that read race into it.

                          Chris, me, everyone who downvoted your OP and anyone with a reading comprehension above that of an average ten year old.

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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            by judging 1) before they know the facts, and 2) without understanding intent, and 3) without knowing the poster, and 4) by assigning motives to the poster (which says more about the downvoter than about the poster)

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                            Chris Losinger
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                            OMFG. you post that and then you accuse other people of prejudice? :laugh: you insult all welfare recipients and then complain that people don't take the time to learn about you, your motivations, or the specifics of your situation ? srsly? i mean, you just dropped a blanket insult, calling welfare recipients lazy, foreign, bastards and we're prejudiced?

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                              ahmed zahmed wrote:

                              *You* are the one that read race into it. I didn't put it there.

                              it's impossible not to read race into it. the thing is full of racial stereotypes, and it has a long history of use as a racist joke. if that wasn't your intent, fine. i'll take your word for it. but maybe reading a little closer next time would be prudent.

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              it's impossible not to read race into it

                              No, it's not impossible. Get your mind in the right place.

                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              full of racial stereotypes

                              Only if you are someone who sees sterotypes in everything...

                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              it has a long history of use as a racist joke

                              Perhaps so, but as I said I wasn't aware of that and I wouldn't have posted it had I been. At least not in it's posted form.

                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              reading a little closer next time would be prudent

                              Perhaps, but my way of reading things like this is usually anti-gov't and I would tend *not* to see racial/prejudicial slants in things. My intent was a humorous jab at the gov't welfare system, not anything/anyone else.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                *You* are the one that read race into it.

                                Chris, me, everyone who downvoted your OP and anyone with a reading comprehension above that of an average ten year old.

                                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                                A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Keith Barrow wrote:

                                Chris, me, everyone who downvoted your OP

                                Then you're all prejudiced.

                                Keith Barrow wrote:

                                anyone with a reading comprehension above that of an average ten year old

                                Being childlike has it's advantages...

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                  OMFG. you post that and then you accuse other people of prejudice? :laugh: you insult all welfare recipients and then complain that people don't take the time to learn about you, your motivations, or the specifics of your situation ? srsly? i mean, you just dropped a blanket insult, calling welfare recipients lazy, foreign, bastards and we're prejudiced?

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                                  I didn't insult any welfare recipients. There you go again assigning motives. I insulted the welfare system, not it's recipients.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                    I didn't insult any welfare recipients. There you go again assigning motives. I insulted the welfare system, not it's recipients.

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                    I didn't insult any welfare recipients.

                                    wow. just... wow.

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                                      OMFG. you post that and then you accuse other people of prejudice? :laugh: you insult all welfare recipients and then complain that people don't take the time to learn about you, your motivations, or the specifics of your situation ? srsly? i mean, you just dropped a blanket insult, calling welfare recipients lazy, foreign, bastards and we're prejudiced?

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      You have some seriously poor and biased reading comprehension problems...

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                        ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                        I didn't insult any welfare recipients.

                                        wow. just... wow.

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                                        Somebody is waiting for the Billy Goats Gruff!

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                                          Somebody is waiting for the Billy Goats Gruff!

                                          Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                                          A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                          so it seems

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