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  • N NormDroid

    For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

    SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

    or B.

    SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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    Tom Chantler
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    I guess this wasn't a serious question, but just in case somebody who doesn't know looks in, I prefer b as it won't throw an exception if the conversion is not possible, but rather will return a null. According to MSDN[^] it's equivalent to this: expression is type ? (type)expression : (type)null but expression is only evaluated once.

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    • T Tom Chantler

      I guess this wasn't a serious question, but just in case somebody who doesn't know looks in, I prefer b as it won't throw an exception if the conversion is not possible, but rather will return a null. According to MSDN[^] it's equivalent to this: expression is type ? (type)expression : (type)null but expression is only evaluated once.

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      NormDroid
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      I suppose my argument on that, is the programmer should know if conversion will take place or not, than letting the code take control.

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      • N NormDroid

        Splitting hairs :)

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        Rob Grainger
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        Not really, C style casts are not recommended in C++ last I checked. Its preferred to use the C++ casts dynamic_cast<T>(x), static_cast<T>(x), reinterpret_Cast<T>(x) and const_cast<T>(x) as they make the intention more explicit. See : Stroustrup[^]

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        • R Rob Grainger

          Not really, C style casts are not recommended in C++ last I checked. Its preferred to use the C++ casts dynamic_cast<T>(x), static_cast<T>(x), reinterpret_Cast<T>(x) and const_cast<T>(x) as they make the intention more explicit. See : Stroustrup[^]

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          NormDroid
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          The final years of coding MFC, I was using the xxx_cast operators religously.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            I prefer as because it is safer:

            expression as type

            is equivalent to:

            expression is type ? (type)expression : (type)null

            When you use casting you can get StoopidTypeException.


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            Rob Grainger
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            I fail to see why that is safer. In case (a), an exception can be raised if expression is of the wrong type. That seems entirely appropriate. In case (b), if an expression of the wrong type is supplied, the result is null. If a programmer fails to check this, the result is an exception anyway. There's a place for both of them. I generally prefer errors to generate exceptions early - i.e. at the cast, rather than the point of usage. So, if I really expect the result to be of a given type I use the former. If I'm using the cast as a shorthand for checking the type is OK, then casting, I prefer the latter.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              I'll code to the spec and assume hope they'll fix the implementation.

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              Rob Grainger
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              There is always a difference between spec and implementation. A language spec is designed to specify what an implementer must achieve - how they achieve it is up to them. For example, nothing in the C++ spec specifies vtables are required to implement virtual functions. The vast majority of compilers implement them that way, but a vendor is free to do things some other way.

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              • Q Quirkafleeg

                Wrong - a is C-style casting, not C++

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                SleimanJneidi
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                No the first is compile time and the second is run time. 'as' keyword is used to RTTI

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  It depends.  (A) will throw if the cast fails while (B) will evaluate to null if the cast fails.  I use both depending on how I intend to handle the casting failure. /ravi

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                  Eusebiu Marcu
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                  There's a little more than that. See here: what-s-the-difference-between-as-and-cast-operators[^]

                  Eusebiu

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                  • N NormDroid

                    For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                    SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                    or B.

                    SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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                    Amit Gupta AG
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                    'B' is better, Because use of 'as' operator does not throw exception if casting is not successful where as 'A' will throw exception in case casting fails.

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                    • N NormDroid

                      For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                      SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                      or B.

                      SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                      www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                      Daniel Vaughan
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                      Often I see the 'as' keyword misused in a way that it hides the cause of a NullReferenceException. For example, take a look at this crummy code:

                      ((foo as (Light)).SwitchOn(); // bad

                      If foo is not a Light, then a NullReferenceException is raised. But if foo was null to begin with, then a NullReferenceException is also raised. In either case, we can’t be certain if it is one or the other. When the ‘as’ is replaced by a direct cast, an InvalidCastException is raised when foo is not a Light; allowing us to distinguish between the two situations:

                      ((Light)foo).SwitchOn(); // better

                      Sometimes, therefore, the choice to use 'as' or a direct cast isn’t a choice at all.

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                      • N NormDroid

                        For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                        SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                        or B.

                        SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                        www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                        LucianPopescu
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                        I use this :

                        if(e is SomeObject)
                        {
                        SomeObject obj = (SomeObject)e;
                        }

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                        • N NormDroid

                          The final years of coding MFC, I was using the xxx_cast operators religously.

                          www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                          Rob Grainger
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                          That makes a change. It seems most C++ programmers are either unaware of them, or just lazy typists. A good sign of this is that my response above seems to have been downvoted for some reason (not that I care - I find the obsession with ratings here a bit odd). Maybe my knowledge of C++ is incomplete, but I assume Stroustrup knew his intention on introducing that feature.

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            That's their problem.

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                            Rob Grainger
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                            Maybe, but its generally considered good form if coding an exposed API to be defensive wrt such fails by the developer using your API. Naturally, there are exceptions euch as performance critical code, where the costs of such checks outweigh the benefits of improved diagnostics. My approach is that if code is called only internally (ie. by developers working on our products), it may be safe to avoid such checks. If called externally (by third party developers), it rarely is.

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                            • N NormDroid

                              For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                              SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                              or B.

                              SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                              www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                              User 4520523
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                              Norm .net wrote:

                              For those using c#, what do you prefer?
                               
                              A.

                              SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                              or
                               
                              B.

                              SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                              What about secret option C. use the correct one for the circumstances. While you might have been interested in which of the two we prefer, thats like asking which do you prefer: A. for B. return You might have a preference, but they aren't interchangeable. You should use A if the object has to be of the correct type. You will get an exception and your exception processing will clean up for you as best as it can. You should use B if you are expecting different types. You get a null so you try the next type. This isn't very OO but it can be useful for optimising. The code will almost always be more procedural, so you have to be careful not to over complicate it. Trying to stop exceptions being thrown at all costs is like using ON ERROR RESUME NEXT in VB. Unless you know exactly how to process an exception you shouldn't try to catch it or defend against it.

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                              • H hairy_hats

                                No, because the two are not equivalent (see other posts below).

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                                oooshola
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                                viaducting wrote:

                                No, because the two are not equivalent (see other posts below).

                                Exactly. I believe "as" returns null if the attempt to cast was unsuccessful, while casting will produce an exception. So, for testing if the cast was successful or not: With casting, you'd need a try/catch block. But with "as" you could just test the result if it's null or not, with an if statement. (<-- arguably less code/more readable).

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                                • N NormDroid

                                  For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                  SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                  or B.

                                  SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                                  www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                                  Lost User
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                                  You are SO wrong! 1- 'As' works only with classes, it's like the dynamic_cast operator from C++, it returns null if the types do not match. 1- The static cast works both with classes and structs, but will throw an InvalidCastException if the types do not match. Hope it helps

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    That's their problem.

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                                    Richard A Dalton
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                                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                    That's their problem.

                                    If Only. Note, my two options allow for your point of view. If you want to you can use option 'a' for plug-in scenarios and let the exception bubble up till it's handled. The point I'm making is that the decision is more about communication with fellow coders than with the machine. The Compiler doesn't give a rats ass which you use. If you use the casting approach as the normal approach, it makes the alternative 'AS' approach stand out as something unusual. This *should* convey something to someone reading your code, even if that someone is you six months from now. The 'AS' approach with a check for NULL tells the reader that NULL in an occasionally expected value, not an exception. That's valuable info right there. The only thing I would advice against is using both methods interchangeably with no thought for why you use one in a given situation and not the other. -Richard

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                                    • N NormDroid

                                      For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                                      SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                                      or B.

                                      SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                                      www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                                      Member 3904894
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                                      I would prefer option B.

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                                      • O oooshola

                                        viaducting wrote:

                                        No, because the two are not equivalent (see other posts below).

                                        Exactly. I believe "as" returns null if the attempt to cast was unsuccessful, while casting will produce an exception. So, for testing if the cast was successful or not: With casting, you'd need a try/catch block. But with "as" you could just test the result if it's null or not, with an if statement. (<-- arguably less code/more readable).

                                        www.oooshola.com

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                                        bNobo34
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                                        Potential "invisible" bugs hard to debug if you forget to test "null value" after using AS operator. Personnaly, I prefer to have an exception, even if it's a little bit more code to handle it. If I forget the error handler, there is an immediate punishment :)

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          Sorry - wrong. The answer's a, because it's better.

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                                          bNobo34
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                                          "Because it's better" - InvalidArgumentException :)

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