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c# Casting v As operator

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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    That's their problem.

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    Richard A Dalton
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    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    That's their problem.

    If Only. Note, my two options allow for your point of view. If you want to you can use option 'a' for plug-in scenarios and let the exception bubble up till it's handled. The point I'm making is that the decision is more about communication with fellow coders than with the machine. The Compiler doesn't give a rats ass which you use. If you use the casting approach as the normal approach, it makes the alternative 'AS' approach stand out as something unusual. This *should* convey something to someone reading your code, even if that someone is you six months from now. The 'AS' approach with a check for NULL tells the reader that NULL in an occasionally expected value, not an exception. That's valuable info right there. The only thing I would advice against is using both methods interchangeably with no thought for why you use one in a given situation and not the other. -Richard

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    • N NormDroid

      For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

      SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

      or B.

      SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

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      I would prefer option B.

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      • O oooshola

        viaducting wrote:

        No, because the two are not equivalent (see other posts below).

        Exactly. I believe "as" returns null if the attempt to cast was unsuccessful, while casting will produce an exception. So, for testing if the cast was successful or not: With casting, you'd need a try/catch block. But with "as" you could just test the result if it's null or not, with an if statement. (<-- arguably less code/more readable).

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        bNobo34
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        Potential "invisible" bugs hard to debug if you forget to test "null value" after using AS operator. Personnaly, I prefer to have an exception, even if it's a little bit more code to handle it. If I forget the error handler, there is an immediate punishment :)

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        • W W Balboos GHB

          Sorry - wrong. The answer's a, because it's better.

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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          bNobo34
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          "Because it's better" - InvalidArgumentException :)

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Not your name, your sig:

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            Possibly a font-problem on your end?
             
            It looks roughly like: W**.'.** Balboos - the three punctuation-like characters being the HTML character code: & there4; (space put in after & so it doesn't render)

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Oh - that white space. I happen to like separating the last line of text from the sig. In this case, I didn't put in CR's, but instead created a < div > - am not sure if that helps you. Esthetics. Beauty in the eye of the beholder. &etc.

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            • B bNobo34

              Potential "invisible" bugs hard to debug if you forget to test "null value" after using AS operator. Personnaly, I prefer to have an exception, even if it's a little bit more code to handle it. If I forget the error handler, there is an immediate punishment :)

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              oooshola
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              This is true, although you'd also get a visible (semi-)immediate null reference exception when you try to use anything from the object. Plus, I personally use "as" so often that either: a) I remember to test it -- equally as well as I'd remember to use a try/catch in the other scenario, or b) when I forget/get a null reference, I remember to include failed casting as the possible culprit when debugging. I think we agree that it boils down to a "personally, I ..." kind of thing. :)

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              • N NormDroid

                For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                or B.

                SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                mgordonhou
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                If programming is used to express intent, then I use option A when I have no intent to check if the cast was successful; I use option B if I intend to check if the result of the cast is null.

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                • O oooshola

                  This is true, although you'd also get a visible (semi-)immediate null reference exception when you try to use anything from the object. Plus, I personally use "as" so often that either: a) I remember to test it -- equally as well as I'd remember to use a try/catch in the other scenario, or b) when I forget/get a null reference, I remember to include failed casting as the possible culprit when debugging. I think we agree that it boils down to a "personally, I ..." kind of thing. :)

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                  bNobo34
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                  I completly agree with you !

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                  • N NormDroid

                    For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                    SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                    or B.

                    SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                    www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                    Mark Hurd
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                    #115

                    For VB.NET users, the equivalent is: A.

                    Dim obj As SomeObject = CType(e, SomeObject)

                    or more accurately

                    Dim obj As SomeObject = DirectCast(e, SomeObject)

                    or B.

                    Dim obj As SomeObject = TryCast(e, SomeObject)

                    although VB.NET does not support SomeObject being a nullable value type. And FYI my answer is the same as most of the others, you use what is necessary depending upon the task at hand :-)

                    Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.) (Hons.)

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                    • O oooshola

                      This is true, although you'd also get a visible (semi-)immediate null reference exception when you try to use anything from the object. Plus, I personally use "as" so often that either: a) I remember to test it -- equally as well as I'd remember to use a try/catch in the other scenario, or b) when I forget/get a null reference, I remember to include failed casting as the possible culprit when debugging. I think we agree that it boils down to a "personally, I ..." kind of thing. :)

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                      patbob
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                      "you'd also get a visible (semi-)immediate null reference exception when you try to use anything from the object." The null reference exception could potentially happen a long time later in code far, far away from the original As. Depending entirely on how the As result is used, of course. Probably the better question is about the other developers that work on the code. Will they know to assume failed casting is a possiblity? What if they're preference is cast/catch? MS probably went too far in allowing there to be two different ways to do the same thing that behave differently. Sure its more convenient, but its also potentially confusing when there's multiple developers.

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                      • N NormDroid

                        For those using c#, what do you prefer? A.

                        SomeObject obj = (SomeObject) e;

                        or B.

                        SomeObject obj = e as SomeObject;

                        www.software-kinetics.co.uk Wear a hard hat it's under construction

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                        johannesnestler
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                        This is no questions of preference: 1. You can not use "as" on value types 2. For reference types you can use "as" or "cast" but with different behaviour. (returns null or exception) So it depends on the situation and the problem and NOT on your preference. Other commenters think that it depends on coding style (test for null or exception), but for me this is no question of style. I want an exception to occur only if something unexpected happen. If downstream the whole code would break if the object is null - I will use the pattern cast-try-catch. If beeing null won't break the code or can be expected I will use "as". So my point is: each of the possibilities to convert the type of an object is useful in different circumstances and these do not depend on my taste or style.

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