Compensation Vs Time [modified]
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Colin caught it first, I corrected the OP. Thanks though.
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I had assumed that they were named after someone called Furlong. :laugh: Over here our teachers still get Baker Days (nothing to do with dough) even thought he was at least 6 Minister for Education's ago.
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Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough? A (semi-?) recent study concluded that even millionaires usually "feel financially insecure, and would need about 1/3rd more to feel secure".
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchySeriously, if I were to look at what I started at 5-6 years ago, I am making 250% that right now. I wasn't starving then, I just don't buy shit constantly. I don't even have a flat-screen tv, my personal computer is at least 4 years old, I pay for my vehicles with cash, I have never gone on vacation that wasn't a roadtrip, etc. I don't like when people try to guilt me for saying many of us are paid fairly, but just have buying habits that are absurd.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough? A (semi-?) recent study concluded that even millionaires usually "feel financially insecure, and would need about 1/3rd more to feel secure".
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchypeterchen wrote:
Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough?
No. Enough, for me, is being able to pay my bills and raise my family comfortably and without being in debt. I'm sure it will be different for everyone - it would reflect their needs but there are very few people who can really survive without any money and we call the ones that do 'homeless'.
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I don't intend to, it seems everyone else is doing a pretty good job of keeping the world populated.
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wizardzz wrote:
I don't intend to
easy to say now: wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids. And then you'll change...
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wizardzz wrote:
I don't intend to
easy to say now: wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids. And then you'll change...
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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musefan wrote:
I would certainly divide my salary by half
:-D I'd happily divide my salary by half and still work the hours i currently do. :-D
Pete
Full Salary / 0.5 ? :) Sounds good.
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I've been with Ms. Wizardz for almost 10 years, we don't want kids.
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Your choice, of course: hope I haven't offended you.
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Your choice, of course: hope I haven't offended you.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
No offense taken. Honestly I don't care what kind of families people have. Children, no children, adoption, whatever. I do feel that in some cases, like the Duggars[^], they may be selfish if they were to depend on government aid, but if not, it's their bodies. I also feel the government should never restrict what people choose to do to their bodies (reproducing counts).
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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peterchen wrote:
Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough?
No. Enough, for me, is being able to pay my bills and raise my family comfortably and without being in debt. I'm sure it will be different for everyone - it would reflect their needs but there are very few people who can really survive without any money and we call the ones that do 'homeless'.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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wizardzz wrote:
I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
In your situation, I would probably take it. In my situation, not really: I am not looking to move to consulting or teaching.
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wizardzz wrote:
I don't intend to
easy to say now: wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids. And then you'll change...
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
digital man wrote:
wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids
I was exactly like that until my Dad sat down for a pint with me and pointed out that if we did have kids, we'd be close to retirement age before we got them out of the house for good. I went off the idea pretty quickly then. :-D
Pete
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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wizardzz wrote:
I would never want to leave my position completely
Sometimes departing the current situation is the only way to really pursue what you want. I was laid off last year.(not the same as quitting but at least that you can plan better for) Instead of diving straight back in and trying to find work I made my own little company and spent 10 months building the software I wanted. The freedom to pursue my own ideas and interests during that time was well worth any monetary losses. At the end of the 10 months I wasn't making the money I had hoped for so I picked up a contract gig. I have to say it was the easiest job hunting I ever did. The managers/developers I interviewed with were far more interested in my own efforts than they were the past my past jobs. Once I get my reserves built up again I plan on taking another year off to try again. With a little luck my fledgling company will get a foothold and I wont have to go back to work for the man any more.
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wizardzz wrote:
I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
In your situation, I would probably take it. In my situation, not really: I am not looking to move to consulting or teaching.
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wizardzz wrote:
I would never want to leave my position completely
Sometimes departing the current situation is the only way to really pursue what you want. I was laid off last year.(not the same as quitting but at least that you can plan better for) Instead of diving straight back in and trying to find work I made my own little company and spent 10 months building the software I wanted. The freedom to pursue my own ideas and interests during that time was well worth any monetary losses. At the end of the 10 months I wasn't making the money I had hoped for so I picked up a contract gig. I have to say it was the easiest job hunting I ever did. The managers/developers I interviewed with were far more interested in my own efforts than they were the past my past jobs. Once I get my reserves built up again I plan on taking another year off to try again. With a little luck my fledgling company will get a foothold and I wont have to go back to work for the man any more.
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Full Salary / 0.5 ? :) Sounds good.
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rastaVnuce wrote:
We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!
Who's "we"?
Pete
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Oh, it's not offered, I was just trying to weigh in on everyone's thoughts. It not just teaching or consulting, but starting my own business, etc.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
wizardzz wrote:
It not just teaching or consulting, but starting my own business, etc.
Yeah, I should have been more clear. If I had a good plan what to do with the extra time, I would take it.
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM
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Too right I would, that would mean only 10 weeks work a year!
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digital man wrote:
I take it that money doesn't mean very much to you?
I don't borrow and I'm quite the anti-consumerist so it's not a big issue. I live like I did in college. For me it would be about having the time to pursue some ideas.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Me too - my debt load is quite small. Minimalism has its perks: I make every weekend at least 2 1/2 days. Jim Morrison (Doors) sang: ". . . you sell all of your hours for a handful of dimes . . ." Balboos asks: 'How much would you sell an hour of your life for? The next one, not the last one. And how many are you prepared to sell.' I deduced that my main problem was not being born rich.
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