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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    Try raising a family with that attitude: see how long it lasts!

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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    wizardzz
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    I don't intend to, it seems everyone else is doing a pretty good job of keeping the world populated.

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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      Colin caught it first, I corrected the OP. Thanks though.

      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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      Henry Minute
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      I had assumed that they were named after someone called Furlong. :laugh: Over here our teachers still get Baker Days (nothing to do with dough) even thought he was at least 6 Minister for Education's ago.

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      • W wizardzz

        Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

        modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM

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        yes

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        • P peterchen

          Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough? A (semi-?) recent study concluded that even millionaires usually "feel financially insecure, and would need about 1/3rd more to feel secure".

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          wizardzz
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          Seriously, if I were to look at what I started at 5-6 years ago, I am making 250% that right now. I wasn't starving then, I just don't buy shit constantly. I don't even have a flat-screen tv, my personal computer is at least 4 years old, I pay for my vehicles with cash, I have never gone on vacation that wasn't a roadtrip, etc. I don't like when people try to guilt me for saying many of us are paid fairly, but just have buying habits that are absurd.

          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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          • P peterchen

            Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough? A (semi-?) recent study concluded that even millionaires usually "feel financially insecure, and would need about 1/3rd more to feel secure".

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            peterchen wrote:

            Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough?

            No. Enough, for me, is being able to pay my bills and raise my family comfortably and without being in debt. I'm sure it will be different for everyone - it would reflect their needs but there are very few people who can really survive without any money and we call the ones that do 'homeless'.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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              I don't intend to, it seems everyone else is doing a pretty good job of keeping the world populated.

              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              wizardzz wrote:

              I don't intend to

              easy to say now: wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids. And then you'll change...

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                wizardzz wrote:

                I don't intend to

                easy to say now: wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids. And then you'll change...

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                wizardzz
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                I've been with Ms. Wizardz for almost 10 years, we don't want kids.

                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                • P Peter Mulholland

                  musefan wrote:

                  I would certainly divide my salary by half

                  :-D I'd happily divide my salary by half and still work the hours i currently do. :-D

                  Pete

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                  rastaVnuce
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                  Full Salary / 0.5 ? :) Sounds good.

                  We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

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                  • W wizardzz

                    I've been with Ms. Wizardz for almost 10 years, we don't want kids.

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    Your choice, of course: hope I haven't offended you.

                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Your choice, of course: hope I haven't offended you.

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                      wizardzz
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                      No offense taken. Honestly I don't care what kind of families people have. Children, no children, adoption, whatever. I do feel that in some cases, like the Duggars[^], they may be selfish if they were to depend on government aid, but if not, it's their bodies. I also feel the government should never restrict what people choose to do to their bodies (reproducing counts).

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        peterchen wrote:

                        Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough?

                        No. Enough, for me, is being able to pay my bills and raise my family comfortably and without being in debt. I'm sure it will be different for everyone - it would reflect their needs but there are very few people who can really survive without any money and we call the ones that do 'homeless'.

                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                        wizardzz
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                        digital man wrote:

                        we call the ones that do 'homeless'.

                        or depending on where you live, 'welfare recipients'

                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                        • W wizardzz

                          Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.

                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

                          modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          wizardzz wrote:

                          I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.

                          In your situation, I would probably take it. In my situation, not really: I am not looking to move to consulting or teaching.

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                          • R R Giskard Reventlov

                            wizardzz wrote:

                            I don't intend to

                            easy to say now: wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids. And then you'll change...

                            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                            Peter Mulholland
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                            digital man wrote:

                            wait till you meet someone. She wants kids: you'll want kids

                            I was exactly like that until my Dad sat down for a pint with me and pointed out that if we did have kids, we'd be close to retirement age before we got them out of the house for good. I went off the idea pretty quickly then. :-D

                            Pete

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                            • W wizardzz

                              Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.

                              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

                              modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM

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                              thrakazog
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                              wizardzz wrote:

                              I would never want to leave my position completely

                              Sometimes departing the current situation is the only way to really pursue what you want. I was laid off last year.(not the same as quitting but at least that you can plan better for) Instead of diving straight back in and trying to find work I made my own little company and spent 10 months building the software I wanted. The freedom to pursue my own ideas and interests during that time was well worth any monetary losses. At the end of the 10 months I wasn't making the money I had hoped for so I picked up a contract gig. I have to say it was the easiest job hunting I ever did. The managers/developers I interviewed with were far more interested in my own efforts than they were the past my past jobs. Once I get my reserves built up again I plan on taking another year off to try again. With a little luck my fledgling company will get a foothold and I wont have to go back to work for the man any more.

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                                wizardzz wrote:

                                I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.

                                In your situation, I would probably take it. In my situation, not really: I am not looking to move to consulting or teaching.

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                                wizardzz
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                                Oh, it's not offered, I was just trying to weigh in on everyone's thoughts. It not just teaching or consulting, but starting my own business, etc.

                                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                  wizardzz wrote:

                                  I would never want to leave my position completely

                                  Sometimes departing the current situation is the only way to really pursue what you want. I was laid off last year.(not the same as quitting but at least that you can plan better for) Instead of diving straight back in and trying to find work I made my own little company and spent 10 months building the software I wanted. The freedom to pursue my own ideas and interests during that time was well worth any monetary losses. At the end of the 10 months I wasn't making the money I had hoped for so I picked up a contract gig. I have to say it was the easiest job hunting I ever did. The managers/developers I interviewed with were far more interested in my own efforts than they were the past my past jobs. Once I get my reserves built up again I plan on taking another year off to try again. With a little luck my fledgling company will get a foothold and I wont have to go back to work for the man any more.

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                                  wizardzz
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                                  Sounds like the situation I'm going to try for eventually.

                                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                  • R rastaVnuce

                                    Full Salary / 0.5 ? :) Sounds good.

                                    We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

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                                    Peter Mulholland
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                                    rastaVnuce wrote:

                                    We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

                                    Who's "we"?

                                    Pete

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                                    • W wizardzz

                                      Oh, it's not offered, I was just trying to weigh in on everyone's thoughts. It not just teaching or consulting, but starting my own business, etc.

                                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                      wizardzz wrote:

                                      It not just teaching or consulting, but starting my own business, etc.

                                      Yeah, I should have been more clear. If I had a good plan what to do with the extra time, I would take it.

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                                      • W wizardzz

                                        Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

                                        modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM

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                                        DaveAuld
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                                        Too right I would, that would mean only 10 weeks work a year!

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                                          Too right I would, that would mean only 10 weeks work a year!

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                                          David1987
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                                          Hey Dave, could you do me small favour and watch a DVD (any of your choosing is fine) on the oil platform? :)

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