Compensation Vs Time [modified]
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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wizardzz wrote:
I would never want to leave my position completely
Sometimes departing the current situation is the only way to really pursue what you want. I was laid off last year.(not the same as quitting but at least that you can plan better for) Instead of diving straight back in and trying to find work I made my own little company and spent 10 months building the software I wanted. The freedom to pursue my own ideas and interests during that time was well worth any monetary losses. At the end of the 10 months I wasn't making the money I had hoped for so I picked up a contract gig. I have to say it was the easiest job hunting I ever did. The managers/developers I interviewed with were far more interested in my own efforts than they were the past my past jobs. Once I get my reserves built up again I plan on taking another year off to try again. With a little luck my fledgling company will get a foothold and I wont have to go back to work for the man any more.
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wizardzz wrote:
I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
In your situation, I would probably take it. In my situation, not really: I am not looking to move to consulting or teaching.
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wizardzz wrote:
I would never want to leave my position completely
Sometimes departing the current situation is the only way to really pursue what you want. I was laid off last year.(not the same as quitting but at least that you can plan better for) Instead of diving straight back in and trying to find work I made my own little company and spent 10 months building the software I wanted. The freedom to pursue my own ideas and interests during that time was well worth any monetary losses. At the end of the 10 months I wasn't making the money I had hoped for so I picked up a contract gig. I have to say it was the easiest job hunting I ever did. The managers/developers I interviewed with were far more interested in my own efforts than they were the past my past jobs. Once I get my reserves built up again I plan on taking another year off to try again. With a little luck my fledgling company will get a foothold and I wont have to go back to work for the man any more.
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Full Salary / 0.5 ? :) Sounds good.
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Oh, it's not offered, I was just trying to weigh in on everyone's thoughts. It not just teaching or consulting, but starting my own business, etc.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
wizardzz wrote:
It not just teaching or consulting, but starting my own business, etc.
Yeah, I should have been more clear. If I had a good plan what to do with the extra time, I would take it.
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM
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Too right I would, that would mean only 10 weeks work a year!
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Hey Dave, could you do me small favour and watch a DVD (any of your choosing is fine) on the oil platform? :)
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digital man wrote:
I take it that money doesn't mean very much to you?
I don't borrow and I'm quite the anti-consumerist so it's not a big issue. I live like I did in college. For me it would be about having the time to pursue some ideas.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Me too - my debt load is quite small. Minimalism has its perks: I make every weekend at least 2 1/2 days. Jim Morrison (Doors) sang: ". . . you sell all of your hours for a handful of dimes . . ." Balboos asks: 'How much would you sell an hour of your life for? The next one, not the last one. And how many are you prepared to sell.' I deduced that my main problem was not being born rich.
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Don't know if there are enough hours is the day for that, could I watch it over the course of a trip? :)
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Ok, I will make a start on my next trip from 7th July onwards :-D
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wizardzz wrote:
furlong days
A day (measures time) isn't the same type of measurement as a furlong (measures distance).
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997You just use the furlong per fortnight conversion factor. :laugh:
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM
wizardzz wrote:
Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do?
Not half, but I did work under contracts with a four-day workweek. Was quite handy since a lot of firms are only opened during office-hours.
wizardzz wrote:
I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off).
There's always a trade-off between work and income. I wouldn't get jealous too much on people who are being forced, one way or the other.
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Not while I have alimony and child support to pay; it would leave me with nothing.
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Me too - my debt load is quite small. Minimalism has its perks: I make every weekend at least 2 1/2 days. Jim Morrison (Doors) sang: ". . . you sell all of your hours for a handful of dimes . . ." Balboos asks: 'How much would you sell an hour of your life for? The next one, not the last one. And how many are you prepared to sell.' I deduced that my main problem was not being born rich.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
I deduced that my main problem was not being born rich.
Failure to pick the proper parents is a common complaint in life. :laugh: People who whine about it and give up instead of making the best of what they did get are as pathetic as those who exaggerate a trivial disability to get on the dole and watch the drivel known as daytime tv every day. X|
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peterchen wrote:
Have you ever tried asking people how much was enough?
No. Enough, for me, is being able to pay my bills and raise my family comfortably and without being in debt. I'm sure it will be different for everyone - it would reflect their needs but there are very few people who can really survive without any money and we call the ones that do 'homeless'.
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Most people you ask are stumped by that question - especially if they are sure that they deserve more. I agree that there's a level of income beyond which it's a hard struggle, and keeping you down. Then there's a level above which it's jsut a matter of needing a bit less than you get. And the two levers are very close together.
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Most people you ask are stumped by that question - especially if they are sure that they deserve more. I agree that there's a level of income beyond which it's a hard struggle, and keeping you down. Then there's a level above which it's jsut a matter of needing a bit less than you get. And the two levers are very close together.
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyIn reality it's not just about how much you need to live on today: things happen in life for which money is required. The boiler needs replacing, your daughter gets married, you retire and try living on the state pension. Nothing is quite as simple as it first appears.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Full Salary / 0.5 ? :) Sounds good.
We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!
Aargh - First post to apologise for voting when I actually wanted to go to page two. Can anyone advise how to unvote or edit vote? Ahh - that's better. A page refresh has sorted my woes.
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Would you take half your salary to work half the hours you currently do? I actually get jealous when I see government workers forced to take furlough days (unpaid time off). I'm going to clarify, my rationale is that it is nearly impossible to make the move to consulting or teaching while still being employed full-time, but I would never want to leave my position completely because of both the pay and experience it provides.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
modified on Monday, June 27, 2011 10:47 AM
When I made the switch back from full-time employment to being a contractor, I arranged with my current employer to work six months at half-time (for half-pay, naturally). During this time my replacement was to be found and I would have a hand in assessing him/her for the job. My only advice is - don't do this! In the end, the stress of having other work to do, the slowness of the process of finding a replacement, and the increased desire (once you could see the end coming) to get out of the current position, all made it a very stressful experience. Much better, IMHO, to make as clean a break as possible. Of course, if you see a big downside risk to getting out, then that changes things - I only agreed to do the split time to help my previous employer out (we got on well), but in the end I don't think it really helped them (no incentive to find my replacement etc until near the end) or me - itching to get away, but unable to. Mike