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  • W wizardzz

    Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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    Sander Rossel
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    I was going to post an answer, but as I went through it I was looking at it from the point of view of an outsider and realised no one actually asked a question for me to reply to. So now I have a question! Wow, this stuff works both ways! :D

    It's an OO world.

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      I was going to post an answer, but as I went through it I was looking at it from the point of view of an outsider and realised no one actually asked a question for me to reply to. So now I have a question! Wow, this stuff works both ways! :D

      It's an OO world.

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      CalvinHobbies
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      We must go deeper... -_- :suss:

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      • W wizardzz

        Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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        gavindon
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        I have done similar by talking to a non programmer but a technical person, and talked myself through to an answer.

        Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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          We must go deeper... -_- :suss:

          ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.

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          There's an ex-wife joke in there - I just know it...

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          • G gavindon

            I have done similar by talking to a non programmer but a technical person, and talked myself through to an answer.

            Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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            twohowlingdogs
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            I've done this a lot! It is funny how you can stare at the problem and cannot for the life of you figure it out. But step away from your desk, talk to someone else and you'll figure it out just talking to someone. Sometimes it's even when the problem you have is not the topic of conversation! Funny how the brain works eh? Like multi-threading!

            If you know what I mean...and I think you do...

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              There's an ex-wife joke in there - I just know it...

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Sander Rossel
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              Did you hear the joke about the ex-wife? The joke was on me, but she got the punch-line. Ha... ha... I never even married :-D

              It's an OO world.

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              • T twohowlingdogs

                I've done this a lot! It is funny how you can stare at the problem and cannot for the life of you figure it out. But step away from your desk, talk to someone else and you'll figure it out just talking to someone. Sometimes it's even when the problem you have is not the topic of conversation! Funny how the brain works eh? Like multi-threading!

                If you know what I mean...and I think you do...

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                twohowlingdogs wrote:

                Like multi-threading!

                I think that is the problem... and the solution :laugh:

                Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.

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                • W wizardzz

                  Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                  RC_Sebastien_C
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                  Must be the one I almost answered!

                  I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Did you hear the joke about the ex-wife? The joke was on me, but she got the punch-line. Ha... ha... I never even married :-D

                    It's an OO world.

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                    wizardzz
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                    These posts are why women are quiting the Lounge! So, keep it up! Just kidding ladies!

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                    • W wizardzz

                      Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                      GenJerDan
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                      Looking at things out-of-context often helps with all sorts of problems. Like proofing prose you have written: if you just read through it, you'll likely still miss most of the tipos, left out or the the doubled words, etc. But if you read it backwards (sentence by sentence, rettel yb rettel ton), you'll probably find them all. You're forcing "fresh eyes" to see it, even if they're your own. :)

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                      • W wizardzz

                        Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                        Yup all the time.


                        There is no failure only feedback

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                        • W wizardzz

                          These posts are why women are quiting the Lounge! So, keep it up! Just kidding ladies!

                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                          CalvinHobbies
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                          I laugh as mine was an "Inception" Ref. I don't know what's on their mind... :doh: Besides, I know alot of women that can and could some men to shame on some topics (including Geekin it out).

                          ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                          • C CalvinHobbies

                            I laugh as mine was an "Inception" Ref. I don't know what's on their mind... :doh: Besides, I know alot of women that can and could some men to shame on some topics (including Geekin it out).

                            ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            All of a sudden I am wondering how this could go from getting an answer from a question to women... Oh wait, I just got an idea! Why don't women make any sense at all? *reads through the question* ...Crap! I still don't understand them! :( I guess I flawed wizz's method somewhat :rolleyes:

                            It's an OO world.

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                            • W wizardzz

                              Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                              Christian Graus
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                              I don't ask questions very often at all, but in the past, I found that talking to a co-worker or posting on CP would cause me to find the answer. Something about breaking the problem down so a reader or hearer could understand it, I think, caused me to think it through a little deeper.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              • W wizardzz

                                Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                Very recognizable; I tend to talk to myself, explaining the problem out loud sometimes, for the same reason. It helps to focus, but also breaks the concentration of other people in the room.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                                  We must go deeper... -_- :suss:

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                                  Joan M
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                                  Use gloves please... :rolleyes:

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                                  • W wizardzz

                                    Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                    Joan M
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                                    How nice! now my answer will fall into the darkness as no question will take care of it... :sigh:

                                    [www.tamelectromecanica.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

                                    https://www.robotecnik.com freelance robots, PLC and CNC programmer.

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                                    • W wizardzz

                                      Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                      You use a different part of your brain to write code than you do to write prose. One way I proof prose is to read it aloud. A lot of stumble gets found this way. Same kind of thing, I think. I sat with an author once while he was holding court at a coffee shop in Denver called Muddy's. Simon Hawke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Hawke[^] I was astonished to find that he spoke in the exact same way that he wrote. I pointed this out to him during the discussion and he gave me one of those WTF looks and said; "doesn't everyone?" I also note that he wrote about six books a year at that time but had almost no proofing. Piers Anthony was producing about 3 a year in the same time but I think they were doing the same amount of work. PA getting more money per word (no doubt) and SH getting more words to the public. Oh, I digressed.

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                                      • W wizardzz

                                        Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)

                                        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        No jokes from me, this time.

                                        wizardzz wrote:

                                        It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this?

                                        Stuff like this happens to me from time to time and it is weird. I, personally, believe that the solution to all problems (coding and in life), are right there in front of you. The problem is we usually don't see them for a while...sometimes never. When I am stuck with a coding problem or a design challenge, I look at the problem knowing that the answer is easy and it is right there in front of me...I just have to find it. It's like finding Waldo in a crowd. You know he is there, you just have to find him. My thoughts. Good post by the way. :thumbsup:

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          I don't ask questions very often at all, but in the past, I found that talking to a co-worker or posting on CP would cause me to find the answer. Something about breaking the problem down so a reader or hearer could understand it, I think, caused me to think it through a little deeper.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          wizardzz
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                                          Yeah, I do feel like trying to formally word the issue for an outsider plays a huge part. It caused me to proof read it from the view of the audience, too, which helps get the brain working in a different way.

                                          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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