Almost posted a question
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We must go deeper... -_- :suss:
///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.
There's an ex-wife joke in there - I just know it...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I have done similar by talking to a non programmer but a technical person, and talked myself through to an answer.
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.
I've done this a lot! It is funny how you can stare at the problem and cannot for the life of you figure it out. But step away from your desk, talk to someone else and you'll figure it out just talking to someone. Sometimes it's even when the problem you have is not the topic of conversation! Funny how the brain works eh? Like multi-threading!
If you know what I mean...and I think you do...
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There's an ex-wife joke in there - I just know it...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Did you hear the joke about the ex-wife? The joke was on me, but she got the punch-line. Ha... ha... I never even married :-D
It's an OO world.
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I've done this a lot! It is funny how you can stare at the problem and cannot for the life of you figure it out. But step away from your desk, talk to someone else and you'll figure it out just talking to someone. Sometimes it's even when the problem you have is not the topic of conversation! Funny how the brain works eh? Like multi-threading!
If you know what I mean...and I think you do...
twohowlingdogs wrote:
Like multi-threading!
I think that is the problem... and the solution :laugh:
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. A crisis on your part does not constitute one on mine.
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Must be the one I almost answered!
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.
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Did you hear the joke about the ex-wife? The joke was on me, but she got the punch-line. Ha... ha... I never even married :-D
It's an OO world.
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Looking at things out-of-context often helps with all sorts of problems. Like proofing prose you have written: if you just read through it, you'll likely still miss most of the tipos, left out or the the doubled words, etc. But if you read it backwards (sentence by sentence, rettel yb rettel ton), you'll probably find them all. You're forcing "fresh eyes" to see it, even if they're your own. :)
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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These posts are why women are quiting the Lounge! So, keep it up! Just kidding ladies!
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
I laugh as mine was an "Inception" Ref. I don't know what's on their mind... :doh: Besides, I know alot of women that can and could some men to shame on some topics (including Geekin it out).
///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.
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I laugh as mine was an "Inception" Ref. I don't know what's on their mind... :doh: Besides, I know alot of women that can and could some men to shame on some topics (including Geekin it out).
///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.
All of a sudden I am wondering how this could go from getting an answer from a question to women... Oh wait, I just got an idea! Why don't women make any sense at all? *reads through the question* ...Crap! I still don't understand them! :( I guess I flawed wizz's method somewhat :rolleyes:
It's an OO world.
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
I don't ask questions very often at all, but in the past, I found that talking to a co-worker or posting on CP would cause me to find the answer. Something about breaking the problem down so a reader or hearer could understand it, I think, caused me to think it through a little deeper.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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We must go deeper... -_- :suss:
///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.
Use gloves please... :rolleyes:
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
How nice! now my answer will fall into the darkness as no question will take care of it... :sigh:
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
You use a different part of your brain to write code than you do to write prose. One way I proof prose is to read it aloud. A lot of stumble gets found this way. Same kind of thing, I think. I sat with an author once while he was holding court at a coffee shop in Denver called Muddy's. Simon Hawke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Hawke[^] I was astonished to find that he spoke in the exact same way that he wrote. I pointed this out to him during the discussion and he gave me one of those WTF looks and said; "doesn't everyone?" I also note that he wrote about six books a year at that time but had almost no proofing. Piers Anthony was producing about 3 a year in the same time but I think they were doing the same amount of work. PA getting more money per word (no doubt) and SH getting more words to the public. Oh, I digressed.
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Wow, I actually had my question typed up and was going to post in QA and I had exhausted google for a solution, but then as I went through everything I tried... I figured out how to resolve it. Literally as I was looking at the preview to my question. It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this? I think I developed another technique for solving my own coding problems. After I confirm and implement this I will post as a tip ;)
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
No jokes from me, this time.
wizardzz wrote:
It was strange, when I was reading it I looked at the question from the view of an outsider, like I was looking at a stranger's question that was unrelated to what I was doing. Has anyone ever done this?
Stuff like this happens to me from time to time and it is weird. I, personally, believe that the solution to all problems (coding and in life), are right there in front of you. The problem is we usually don't see them for a while...sometimes never. When I am stuck with a coding problem or a design challenge, I look at the problem knowing that the answer is easy and it is right there in front of me...I just have to find it. It's like finding Waldo in a crowd. You know he is there, you just have to find him. My thoughts. Good post by the way. :thumbsup:
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I don't ask questions very often at all, but in the past, I found that talking to a co-worker or posting on CP would cause me to find the answer. Something about breaking the problem down so a reader or hearer could understand it, I think, caused me to think it through a little deeper.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Yeah, I do feel like trying to formally word the issue for an outsider plays a huge part. It caused me to proof read it from the view of the audience, too, which helps get the brain working in a different way.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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You use a different part of your brain to write code than you do to write prose. One way I proof prose is to read it aloud. A lot of stumble gets found this way. Same kind of thing, I think. I sat with an author once while he was holding court at a coffee shop in Denver called Muddy's. Simon Hawke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Hawke[^] I was astonished to find that he spoke in the exact same way that he wrote. I pointed this out to him during the discussion and he gave me one of those WTF looks and said; "doesn't everyone?" I also note that he wrote about six books a year at that time but had almost no proofing. Piers Anthony was producing about 3 a year in the same time but I think they were doing the same amount of work. PA getting more money per word (no doubt) and SH getting more words to the public. Oh, I digressed.
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That is an observation I did not make. Viewing a coding problem, when worded into a word problem, as prose.
smcnulty2000 wrote:
I was astonished to find that he spoke in the exact same way that he wrote. I pointed this out to him during the discussion and he gave me one of those WTF looks and said; "doesn't everyone?"
That is incredibly interesting, I have only recently tried writing and feel I can't find my voice well. I should let my written words flow like how I speak. I have written stuff, that when I reread, feels clunky and unnatural. That is a sign I'm not writing in my own voice. I will definitely take advice from this.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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That is an observation I did not make. Viewing a coding problem, when worded into a word problem, as prose.
smcnulty2000 wrote:
I was astonished to find that he spoke in the exact same way that he wrote. I pointed this out to him during the discussion and he gave me one of those WTF looks and said; "doesn't everyone?"
That is incredibly interesting, I have only recently tried writing and feel I can't find my voice well. I should let my written words flow like how I speak. I have written stuff, that when I reread, feels clunky and unnatural. That is a sign I'm not writing in my own voice. I will definitely take advice from this.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
wizardzz wrote:
, I have only recently tried writing and feel I can't find my voice well. I should let my written words flow like how I speak. I have written stuff, that when I reread, feels clunky and unnatural. That is a sign I'm not writing in my own voice.
I have the same problem. It is interesting that when I write in a forum I can form whole, cogent sentences and when I try and write fiction or whatever I sound like I just learnt english. :doh: I'm trying to fold the one attitude into the other to get my mind over the obvious psychological block. Something to do with the way I organize my thoughts when I'm approaching a forum reply, I think. Good luck with your struggle. Man vs self is a difficult one.
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