The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers?
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
I'm going to have to disagree with you here. It might feel that way in the beginning, but burning the candles at both ends doesn't make a programmer "the best"
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
In my experience, _good_ programmers have a good social life; _bad_ ones do not. Good programmers know how to balance work and leisure, and will not always sacrifice a good beer with friends from staying at work (or in the basement) to finish up some code. But at some point we all are professionals and we need to get the job done; and will work hard to make it work and meet schedule. It's no different than being a professional in a lot of different domains. I've know chemists (Organic chemistry) who spent days and nights in their labs performing time critical synthesis.
Watched code never compiles.
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I don't know, who are "the best developers"? We should ask them about their social lives
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I don't know, who are "the best developers"? We should ask them about their social lives
He already did. My answer's already there.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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I have a good social life. I have a loving wife, great kids and also have time to play guitar, paint and enjoy squash.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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What Pete said, except for the squash part. It's what you make of your situation.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
Acaz wrote:
What do you think?
I think your link is broken. Clickity[^]
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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What Pete said, except for the squash part. It's what you make of your situation.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
Pete's wife loves you too?
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
I think it's true that the early years in this career take a toll on your social life, especially if your are in a startup. As you gain experience in solving problems and build a repertoire of reusable code, you become more efficient and effective leading to better pay, and more personal time to enjoy it. For me, the first five or six years were full of late night and weekend coding sessions. Nowadays, it's generally 8 to 5 M-F with pleny of time for family and friends.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
I don't think there is a correlation between good/bad developpers and the social life. Both can have good or bad social lifes, it depends more on you personality.
Acaz wrote:
programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming.
So do many other professions.
Acaz wrote:
You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends.
You make your own choices and set your own priorities.
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.
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Pete's wife loves you too?
I was HollyHooo but got tired of it and Sebastien was taken.
Fair enough. He can have the debts as well.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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I think I don't care. No... I'm sure of it. I have family, neighbors, co-workers, acquaintences, and targets (some of which are or were family, neighbors, co-workers, and acquaintences). No friends. Friends want to borrow stuff.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
No friends. Friends want to borrow stuff.
and have a much easier time stabbing you in the back since you don't watch them as close as your outright enemies :-D
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
I'm married(18 years) and have three teenagers. There is no time for a social life anyway, its all at home.
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
Acaz wrote:
The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers?
I have a great social life. Oh wait, you said the "best developers". ;) And the fantastic thing about working off site is that I can shift my work around to accommodate my social life, rather than vice versa. Call forwarding and cell phones and wifi and laptops and remote desktop and GoToMyPC are the coolest applications of technology as they enable a wonderful mobile environment. Marc
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Fair enough. He can have the debts as well.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
See what happens when I leave you guys alone for a moment... :mad: I am sure that Pete's wife is a very nice loving person, but my wife would take exception to my taking on additional debt.:laugh:
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
We cannot have a good social life like non-developers, aside of the study time we must put in to keep up with technology trends, the non-technical %#&$*@)#'s whom we have to develop software for have no concept of how constantly changing requirements in the middle of development is going to impact the project deadlines. And! They could care less.....
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
Ha! Everybody is FASCINATED at parties with software guys. People can't get enough about all of my exploits with editors and compilers and os internals. Girls are Fascinated. Guys are Jealous. Why, heck, I'd choose this career path again-and-again JUST for the social power! Seriously, Call yourself a "Software Architect". You'll fool some of 'em with the "Architect"...
Do we weigh less at high tide?
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
There's only so much time in a day. You can work 9-5 at some boring clerk job, and have lots of free time for partying, and need to get drunk every Friday 'cause your work sucks so much. You can work 15 hours a day hacking out code, and go home exhausted for a quick frozen dinner and 7 hours of sleep until you burn out. Or you can work a reasonable amount of time, about 8 hours most weeks with occasional emergency all-nighters, and have an in-between amount of time for your family or your friends. It's a dirty secret in the industry that the 40-45 hour/week jobs pay the same as the 60 hour a week jobs. So if you have the wrong kind of job, go find the right kind. The good jobs are harder to find, and people stay there longer, but they're there.
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The best developers have a good social life like a non-developers? I was thinking about this and about my career and I do not think so, programming life requires much study and time every day and consuming. You have to sacrifice many things many times: parties, time with family, time with friends. There was another topic here at The Lounge wondering the best developers are so sad: Frustated programmers (http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3896109#xx3896109xx). What do you think?
I have a terrible social life and would prefer it to having a decent or good social life. I also pride myself on my programming skills and have to say there is little I like doing more than spending 13 hours or so on a project containing a new concept to me and finishing it, having real world applications. Although I am not a developer, merely a hobbyist
