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  • C Chris Maunder

    I found the way to fix the reversal of the mouse gesture. You uncheck the "natural scrolling" checkbox in preferences. Surely that counts as ironic, no?

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Chris Maunder wrote:

    I found the way to fix the reversal of the mouse gesture. You uncheck the "natural scrolling" checkbox in preferences.
     
    Surely that counts as ironic, no?

    No... having spent far too much time thinking about this, natural scrolling indeed would bring stuff from further up the top into view when you scroll in a downward motion... think of a globe with the axis attached through the equator... when you scroll "down", the northern hemisphere comes towards the centre...

    Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Anyone else installed it yet? Opinions? [edit: glad to see Microsoft isn't the only one who is hopeless at estimating time of installation. I mean, it's not like apple controls the software and hardware completely and has an extremely limited set of variables on which to base it's install estimations, or anything. An hour after it said 33 mns and I have 12 mins to go before the joys of OSX OcelotLion] [Edit 2: It's done. And it looks exactly the same. Exactly. I wouldn't know it was a different OS except I now have a FaceTime app in the docking bar and, wonders of wonders - I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window. They were up all night thinking about that one. Well done Apple. In all seriousness I'm looking forward to seeing the changes, but to put it in perspective this is not even close to the changes between, say, XP SP1 and XP SP2, so I think the $30 is like paying for grocery bags at the supermarket - it's not onerous, but it's not fully justified.] [Another edit: They reversed the direction you need to stroke the trackpad to scroll. Slide up to scroll down, stroke down to scroll up. Hmmm.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

      modified on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:22 PM

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      Lost User
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      The scrolling thing is meant to be because it is more natural on touch screens to drag the screen down, so they've applied that to the touchpad... think they may be releasing a touch-screen mac soon??? I thought from the little i have read that the desktop would be completely changed by the new OS - all your apps installed on the desktop like a giant ipoaphone (using a three-finger-and-thumb pinch to bring it up)

      Chris Maunder wrote:

      I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window.

      OMG! I only got the Mac about a year or so ago, and spent the first three months swearing at ti when I had to move the mouse to the bottom right to resize, then went just that little too far and got teh bloody toolbar thingo at the bottom of the screen instead!

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Anyone else installed it yet? Opinions? [edit: glad to see Microsoft isn't the only one who is hopeless at estimating time of installation. I mean, it's not like apple controls the software and hardware completely and has an extremely limited set of variables on which to base it's install estimations, or anything. An hour after it said 33 mns and I have 12 mins to go before the joys of OSX OcelotLion] [Edit 2: It's done. And it looks exactly the same. Exactly. I wouldn't know it was a different OS except I now have a FaceTime app in the docking bar and, wonders of wonders - I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window. They were up all night thinking about that one. Well done Apple. In all seriousness I'm looking forward to seeing the changes, but to put it in perspective this is not even close to the changes between, say, XP SP1 and XP SP2, so I think the $30 is like paying for grocery bags at the supermarket - it's not onerous, but it's not fully justified.] [Another edit: They reversed the direction you need to stroke the trackpad to scroll. Slide up to scroll down, stroke down to scroll up. Hmmm.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

        modified on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:22 PM

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        Christian Graus
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        I have not bought it. I know they claim there's lots of cool new stuff, but I assume they are lion about it.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        • R Rutvik Dave

          Mine comes preinstalled, its in the apple store I just need to buy it. ;P

          It's a shame that stupidity can't be converted into a usable energy source.

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          Steve Mayfield
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          I'll bet they charge more than $29 :laugh:

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          • C Christian Graus

            I have not bought it. I know they claim there's lots of cool new stuff, but I assume they are lion about it.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            _Damian S_
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            I assume they are lion about it.

            No need to get catty!

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Anyone else installed it yet? Opinions? [edit: glad to see Microsoft isn't the only one who is hopeless at estimating time of installation. I mean, it's not like apple controls the software and hardware completely and has an extremely limited set of variables on which to base it's install estimations, or anything. An hour after it said 33 mns and I have 12 mins to go before the joys of OSX OcelotLion] [Edit 2: It's done. And it looks exactly the same. Exactly. I wouldn't know it was a different OS except I now have a FaceTime app in the docking bar and, wonders of wonders - I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window. They were up all night thinking about that one. Well done Apple. In all seriousness I'm looking forward to seeing the changes, but to put it in perspective this is not even close to the changes between, say, XP SP1 and XP SP2, so I think the $30 is like paying for grocery bags at the supermarket - it's not onerous, but it's not fully justified.] [Another edit: They reversed the direction you need to stroke the trackpad to scroll. Slide up to scroll down, stroke down to scroll up. Hmmm.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

              modified on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:22 PM

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              Abu Mami
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              Hey Chris, do you use XCode? I've heard that some people are having trouble with XCode (4.1) after upgrading to Lion and XCode 4.1. I think I'll wait till I hear everyone saying how great the upgrade is. In any case - thanks for sharing your experiences. Interesting that it didn't make much of an impression. Reading Apple PR on this, you'd think that every other OS was rendered obsolete with the arrival of Lion.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                I have been using the beta/developer preview version for a long time. There is nothing I dislike about it. It is definitely worth the $29 or so. Plus the nice thing is that I can update all my Mac machines - 3 of them with only $29.

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                Septimus Hedgehog
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                I've yet to download it but what other machine would give you an upgrade for £29 and from what I understand, the same version is true for all; no variations for home, student, apprentice, January, dual-core, quad-core, Wednesday, 2005, 2008, 2011, SP3, late afternoon, which seems to dog Microsoft's somewhat different approach. Heck, if only VS ran on native iMac/OS (not using a VM) then I'd never go back to MS again. :-D Mate of mine at die kantoor did download it and spent an evening working through some of its features. He's a seasoned iMac user he's upbeat about it so far. As for me, I'm perhaps still seduced by the experience being new to the Apple game but I've a feeling we're going to be firm friends. Like you say, you can't bitch about the cost of it.

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Anyone else installed it yet? Opinions? [edit: glad to see Microsoft isn't the only one who is hopeless at estimating time of installation. I mean, it's not like apple controls the software and hardware completely and has an extremely limited set of variables on which to base it's install estimations, or anything. An hour after it said 33 mns and I have 12 mins to go before the joys of OSX OcelotLion] [Edit 2: It's done. And it looks exactly the same. Exactly. I wouldn't know it was a different OS except I now have a FaceTime app in the docking bar and, wonders of wonders - I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window. They were up all night thinking about that one. Well done Apple. In all seriousness I'm looking forward to seeing the changes, but to put it in perspective this is not even close to the changes between, say, XP SP1 and XP SP2, so I think the $30 is like paying for grocery bags at the supermarket - it's not onerous, but it's not fully justified.] [Another edit: They reversed the direction you need to stroke the trackpad to scroll. Slide up to scroll down, stroke down to scroll up. Hmmm.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

                  modified on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:22 PM

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                  Septimus Hedgehog
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                  Chris, my Apple guru tells me there is a (new?) preference to reverse the scrolling direction.

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                  • S Septimus Hedgehog

                    Chris, my Apple guru tells me there is a (new?) preference to reverse the scrolling direction.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Just like if you dig deep enough you can find the new way to make the iPad keep it's aspect ratio when you rotate it. Apple seems like a sheltered workshop to me nowadays.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Anyone else installed it yet? Opinions? [edit: glad to see Microsoft isn't the only one who is hopeless at estimating time of installation. I mean, it's not like apple controls the software and hardware completely and has an extremely limited set of variables on which to base it's install estimations, or anything. An hour after it said 33 mns and I have 12 mins to go before the joys of OSX OcelotLion] [Edit 2: It's done. And it looks exactly the same. Exactly. I wouldn't know it was a different OS except I now have a FaceTime app in the docking bar and, wonders of wonders - I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window. They were up all night thinking about that one. Well done Apple. In all seriousness I'm looking forward to seeing the changes, but to put it in perspective this is not even close to the changes between, say, XP SP1 and XP SP2, so I think the $30 is like paying for grocery bags at the supermarket - it's not onerous, but it's not fully justified.] [Another edit: They reversed the direction you need to stroke the trackpad to scroll. Slide up to scroll down, stroke down to scroll up. Hmmm.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

                      modified on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:22 PM

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                      Henry Minute
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                      I was just reading a review[^] as I opened your message and amongst the enhancements they mention apart from the any-side resize and inverse-scrolling are the autosave and versioning for compatible applications, full screen apps and the download manager for safari.

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                      • _ _Damian S_

                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        I found the way to fix the reversal of the mouse gesture. You uncheck the "natural scrolling" checkbox in preferences.
                         
                        Surely that counts as ironic, no?

                        No... having spent far too much time thinking about this, natural scrolling indeed would bring stuff from further up the top into view when you scroll in a downward motion... think of a globe with the axis attached through the equator... when you scroll "down", the northern hemisphere comes towards the centre...

                        Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        If it were natural, you wouldn't have to think about it ;)

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Just like if you dig deep enough you can find the new way to make the iPad keep it's aspect ratio when you rotate it. Apple seems like a sheltered workshop to me nowadays.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Lost User
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Just like if you dig deep enough....

                          I understand that the preference for "natural scrolling" is on the main trackpad/mouse preference page. Where EXACTLY would you expect it to be?

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                          • A Abu Mami

                            Hey Chris, do you use XCode? I've heard that some people are having trouble with XCode (4.1) after upgrading to Lion and XCode 4.1. I think I'll wait till I hear everyone saying how great the upgrade is. In any case - thanks for sharing your experiences. Interesting that it didn't make much of an impression. Reading Apple PR on this, you'd think that every other OS was rendered obsolete with the arrival of Lion.

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            I'm too scared to update the machine in the office (the one we have XCode on) to Lion. I'm holding off until we get some updates from Apple.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I'm too scared to update the machine in the office (the one we have XCode on) to Lion. I'm holding off until we get some updates from Apple.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Abu Mami
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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              I'm too scared

                              Hmm, my sentiments exactly. I'm afraid I'll upgrade and then find I can't open/build/whatever my XCode projects.

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                                Hey Chris, do you use XCode? I've heard that some people are having trouble with XCode (4.1) after upgrading to Lion and XCode 4.1. I think I'll wait till I hear everyone saying how great the upgrade is. In any case - thanks for sharing your experiences. Interesting that it didn't make much of an impression. Reading Apple PR on this, you'd think that every other OS was rendered obsolete with the arrival of Lion.

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                                This is what you need: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xcode/id448457090?mt=12[^]

                                --- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  Anyone else installed it yet? Opinions? [edit: glad to see Microsoft isn't the only one who is hopeless at estimating time of installation. I mean, it's not like apple controls the software and hardware completely and has an extremely limited set of variables on which to base it's install estimations, or anything. An hour after it said 33 mns and I have 12 mins to go before the joys of OSX OcelotLion] [Edit 2: It's done. And it looks exactly the same. Exactly. I wouldn't know it was a different OS except I now have a FaceTime app in the docking bar and, wonders of wonders - I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window. They were up all night thinking about that one. Well done Apple. In all seriousness I'm looking forward to seeing the changes, but to put it in perspective this is not even close to the changes between, say, XP SP1 and XP SP2, so I think the $30 is like paying for grocery bags at the supermarket - it's not onerous, but it's not fully justified.] [Another edit: They reversed the direction you need to stroke the trackpad to scroll. Slide up to scroll down, stroke down to scroll up. Hmmm.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

                                  modified on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:22 PM

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                                  Because I bought my mac pro after June I was entitled for a free update. I downloaded and installed LION like a charm. Every thing working except Xcode. As per Apple developer site, we need a different version for Lion.

                                  Kutty

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    I found the way to fix the reversal of the mouse gesture. You uncheck the "natural scrolling" checkbox in preferences. Surely that counts as ironic, no?

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    I found the way to fix the reversal of the mouse gesture. You uncheck the "natural scrolling" checkbox in preferences.
                                     
                                    Surely that counts as ironic, no?

                                    You forget that anything Apple is built to Steve Jobs' preferences. So, it's based on what is 'natural scrolling' for Steve Jobs, not the rest of us. ;P

                                    The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke!

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                                      Hey Chris, do you use XCode? I've heard that some people are having trouble with XCode (4.1) after upgrading to Lion and XCode 4.1. I think I'll wait till I hear everyone saying how great the upgrade is. In any case - thanks for sharing your experiences. Interesting that it didn't make much of an impression. Reading Apple PR on this, you'd think that every other OS was rendered obsolete with the arrival of Lion.

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                                      User 3760773
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                                      When I installed the update it clobbered my XCode 4. Where did git go? I can't even push out my changes and work on it from another computer. I don't even have patch or diff? Ok, I'll archive the stuff, copy it over the network and merge it in by hand. Wait, windows complains when it tries to open the .zip file!? Well at least I still have tar and gzip ... I can't find my local copy and the App store is so busy I just get an error message when I try to re-download it. Later when I click on 'Purchases' nothing happens. Finally I figure out that I can download it from the 'Featured' page. What, it's *free* now. It only takes 2 more hours to download and install... What did they do to Mail? Where did my scroll bars go? Wayne

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        Anyone else installed it yet? Opinions? [edit: glad to see Microsoft isn't the only one who is hopeless at estimating time of installation. I mean, it's not like apple controls the software and hardware completely and has an extremely limited set of variables on which to base it's install estimations, or anything. An hour after it said 33 mns and I have 12 mins to go before the joys of OSX OcelotLion] [Edit 2: It's done. And it looks exactly the same. Exactly. I wouldn't know it was a different OS except I now have a FaceTime app in the docking bar and, wonders of wonders - I can resize a window using...wait for it!...any side of the window. They were up all night thinking about that one. Well done Apple. In all seriousness I'm looking forward to seeing the changes, but to put it in perspective this is not even close to the changes between, say, XP SP1 and XP SP2, so I think the $30 is like paying for grocery bags at the supermarket - it's not onerous, but it's not fully justified.] [Another edit: They reversed the direction you need to stroke the trackpad to scroll. Slide up to scroll down, stroke down to scroll up. Hmmm.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

                                        modified on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:22 PM

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                                        John Siracusa's Epic Review. Ars Technica: http://www.codeproject.com/News.aspx?ntag=56683757346774266 http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/1[^]

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          I found the way to fix the reversal of the mouse gesture. You uncheck the "natural scrolling" checkbox in preferences. Surely that counts as ironic, no?

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          You just have to remember that you're not moving the scroll bar anymore, you're moving the page.

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