Oslo bombings and massacre
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As someone who is against the death penalty - it's at times like this that emotions can easily push my views the other way. What a despicable demononic act this man has carried out! My heart goes out to the relatives and friends of the people he killed :rose:
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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As someone who is against the death penalty - it's at times like this that emotions can easily push my views the other way. What a despicable demononic act this man has carried out! My heart goes out to the relatives and friends of the people he killed :rose:
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
According to Norwegian, no death-penalty, law, the most he can be sentenced to is 21 years.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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According to Norwegian, no death-penalty, law, the most he can be sentenced to is 21 years.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
21 years! :wtf: Could a finding of insanity provide a longer sentence?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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21 years! :wtf: Could a finding of insanity provide a longer sentence?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
GuyThiebaut wrote:
Could a finding of insanity provide a longer sentence?
Oslo police chief of staff Roger Andresen told the San Francisco Chronicle that the maximum prison term Breivik could face is 21 years under Norwegian law - and that's because they have labeled what he did as terrorism. Presumably they believe that he'll be rehabilitated in 21 years.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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According to Norwegian, no death-penalty, law, the most he can be sentenced to is 21 years.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
If you can believe anything posted on the internet, there are many statements about 'containment' where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society. If so they serve another 5 years. These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
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So once more a religionist goes out and kills people. It just confirms my theory that religion is evil and should be banned.
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Yes absolutely. "Die religion ist das opium des volkes"
L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
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If you can believe anything posted on the internet, there are many statements about 'containment' where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society. If so they serve another 5 years. These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
ict558 wrote:
These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.
Yep, however if a prisoner is sentenced to containment at the time of his trial, he can also be paroled after ten years, or any time thereafter. If he does serve his full term, another hearing in court must be conducted to sentence him to another 5 years, and so on. Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc. I would hope that the bleeding hearts withhold their feelings of fellowship with this guy.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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If you can believe anything posted on the internet, there are many statements about 'containment' where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society. If so they serve another 5 years. These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
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At least 91 people confirmed dead so far. A despicable act by a predictably right-wing fuckwit.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
At least 91 people confirmed dead so far. A despicable act by a predictably right-wing f###wit.
Most "right-wingers" are in fact the sanest and most practical people on the planet. Certainly there are fringe-looneys on both sides of the fence, but to say "predictably right-wing" presumes that most acts of terror are committed by right-wingers. History does not agree. If there is ever to be peace in the world, it'll come from the right, not the left.
XAlan Burkhart
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ict558 wrote:
where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society
How do they decide if he still remains a danger to society? Do they let him out and see if he kills few hundreds more?
Shameel wrote:
How do they decide if he still remains a danger to society?
I have no idea. Perhaps you should Google for details of the Norwegian Parole process.
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
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ict558 wrote:
These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.
Yep, however if a prisoner is sentenced to containment at the time of his trial, he can also be paroled after ten years, or any time thereafter. If he does serve his full term, another hearing in court must be conducted to sentence him to another 5 years, and so on. Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc. I would hope that the bleeding hearts withhold their feelings of fellowship with this guy.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc.
Policy, rather than habit, surely. I have no knowledge of the Norwegian Parole process or its Recidivism Index.
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
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Oakman wrote:
Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc.
Policy, rather than habit, surely. I have no knowledge of the Norwegian Parole process or its Recidivism Index.
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
ict558 wrote:
Policy, rather than habit, surely
A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
At least 91 people confirmed dead so far. A despicable act by a predictably right-wing f###wit.
Most "right-wingers" are in fact the sanest and most practical people on the planet. Certainly there are fringe-looneys on both sides of the fence, but to say "predictably right-wing" presumes that most acts of terror are committed by right-wingers. History does not agree. If there is ever to be peace in the world, it'll come from the right, not the left.
XAlan Burkhart
Alan Burkhart wrote:
Most "right-wingers" are in fact the sanest and most practical people on the planet. Certainly there are fringe-looneys on both sides of the fence, but to say "predictably right-wing" presumes that most acts of terror are committed by right-wingers. History does not agree. If there is ever to be peace in the world, it'll come from the right, not the left.
:laugh: How ridiculous you are.
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ict558 wrote:
Policy, rather than habit, surely
A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.
Fine. As long as I may infer a customary practice, rather than an unconscious pattern of behaviour. :) Now, 'bleeding hearts' ...
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
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Oakman wrote:
A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.
Fine. As long as I may infer a customary practice, rather than an unconscious pattern of behaviour. :) Now, 'bleeding hearts' ...
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
ict558 wrote:
Now, 'bleeding hearts'
And old and tired metaphor for those who worry more about a perpetrator's rights than a victim's family's.
ict558 wrote:
As long as I may infer
You may infer as you wish, but do not make the mistake of assuming that I imply what you prefer. (This is good advice not only on message boards, but when meeting a young lady. ;) )
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
Most "right-wingers" are in fact the sanest and most practical people on the planet. Certainly there are fringe-looneys on both sides of the fence, but to say "predictably right-wing" presumes that most acts of terror are committed by right-wingers. History does not agree. If there is ever to be peace in the world, it'll come from the right, not the left.
:laugh: How ridiculous you are.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
How ridiculous you are.
And how typical you are, Ravel. You cannot argue the facts, so you lower yourself to pointless derision. Sad, that. We'll chat again when you're all grown up.
XAlan Burkhart
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ict558 wrote:
Now, 'bleeding hearts'
And old and tired metaphor for those who worry more about a perpetrator's rights than a victim's family's.
ict558 wrote:
As long as I may infer
You may infer as you wish, but do not make the mistake of assuming that I imply what you prefer. (This is good advice not only on message boards, but when meeting a young lady. ;) )
The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.
Oakman wrote:
And old and tired metaphor for those who worry more about a perpetrator's rights than a victim's family's.
Perhaps I should have used a ;) suffix.
The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
How ridiculous you are.
And how typical you are, Ravel. You cannot argue the facts, so you lower yourself to pointless derision. Sad, that. We'll chat again when you're all grown up.
XAlan Burkhart
Alan Burkhart wrote:
And how typical you are, Ravel. You cannot argue the facts, so you lower yourself to pointless derision. Sad, that. We'll chat again when you're all grown up.
I'm perfectly capable of arguing the facts; however, there is precisely zero chance of you being swayed by anything I could say, and you may be left with the incorrect impression that I have respect remaining for you.
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
And how typical you are, Ravel. You cannot argue the facts, so you lower yourself to pointless derision. Sad, that. We'll chat again when you're all grown up.
I'm perfectly capable of arguing the facts; however, there is precisely zero chance of you being swayed by anything I could say, and you may be left with the incorrect impression that I have respect remaining for you.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
I'm perfectly capable of arguing the facts
Then why don't you try it?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
...and you may be left with the incorrect impression that I have respect remaining for you...
I don't require your respect. I'm just a bit amazed that an obviously intelligent young man like you can be so utterly closed-minded when it comes to important issues. Broaden your horizons, Ravel. Moving too far from either side of the ideological fence robs you of the larger view. Yes, I'm right of the fence, but not so far from it that I cannot see across it to the other side.
XAlan Burkhart