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  • O Oakman

    ict558 wrote:

    We're doomed, we're all doomed!

    Probably, but let's go down fighting for rationality.

    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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    Oakman wrote:

    let's go down fighting for rationality

    Highly emotional, Captain.

    The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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      Oakman wrote:

      let's go down fighting for rationality

      Highly emotional, Captain.

      The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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      ict558 wrote:

      Highly emotional, Captain.

      It's my first, best destiny.

      The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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      • O Oakman

        ict558 wrote:

        Highly emotional, Captain.

        It's my first, best destiny.

        The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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        Oakman wrote:

        It's my first, best destiny.

        I can just see it[^]. :)

        The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          Not much time has passed since the bombs went off in Oslo, and a guy dressed as a police office started massacring kids at a summer camp for youths involved in politics, so much of the information that has been published so far, may be totally wrong when the dust has settled. Many people are crying "It's a muslim terrorist attack". I did too, until some interesting information was published. 1) The guy disguised as a police officer at the summer camp, had the appearance of a native. Not the typical jihadist. 2) The summer camp was for left wing kids (social democrats). 3) Some witnesses claim that there was a "fake" police officer close by just before the bomb(s?) went off. I think these cowardly attack(s) were made by a Norwegian "Oklahoma bomber(s?)".

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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          GuyThiebaut
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          As someone who is against the death penalty - it's at times like this that emotions can easily push my views the other way. What a despicable demononic act this man has carried out! My heart goes out to the relatives and friends of the people he killed :rose:

          Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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          • G GuyThiebaut

            As someone who is against the death penalty - it's at times like this that emotions can easily push my views the other way. What a despicable demononic act this man has carried out! My heart goes out to the relatives and friends of the people he killed :rose:

            Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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            If they kill him, he won't have enough time to suffer.

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            • G GuyThiebaut

              As someone who is against the death penalty - it's at times like this that emotions can easily push my views the other way. What a despicable demononic act this man has carried out! My heart goes out to the relatives and friends of the people he killed :rose:

              Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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              According to Norwegian, no death-penalty, law, the most he can be sentenced to is 21 years.

              The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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              • O Oakman

                According to Norwegian, no death-penalty, law, the most he can be sentenced to is 21 years.

                The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                GuyThiebaut
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                21 years! :wtf: Could a finding of insanity provide a longer sentence?

                Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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                • G GuyThiebaut

                  21 years! :wtf: Could a finding of insanity provide a longer sentence?

                  Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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                  GuyThiebaut wrote:

                  Could a finding of insanity provide a longer sentence?

                  Oslo police chief of staff Roger Andresen told the San Francisco Chronicle that the maximum prison term Breivik could face is 21 years under Norwegian law - and that's because they have labeled what he did as terrorism. Presumably they believe that he'll be rehabilitated in 21 years.

                  The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                  • O Oakman

                    According to Norwegian, no death-penalty, law, the most he can be sentenced to is 21 years.

                    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                    If you can believe anything posted on the internet, there are many statements about 'containment' where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society. If so they serve another 5 years. These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.

                    The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      So once more a religionist goes out and kills people. It just confirms my theory that religion is evil and should be banned.

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                      Sahir Shah
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                      Yes absolutely. "Die religion ist das opium des volkes"

                      L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                      • L Lost User

                        If you can believe anything posted on the internet, there are many statements about 'containment' where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society. If so they serve another 5 years. These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.

                        The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                        Oakman
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                        ict558 wrote:

                        These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.

                        Yep, however if a prisoner is sentenced to containment at the time of his trial, he can also be paroled after ten years, or any time thereafter. If he does serve his full term, another hearing in court must be conducted to sentence him to another 5 years, and so on. Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc. I would hope that the bleeding hearts withhold their feelings of fellowship with this guy.

                        The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                        • L Lost User

                          If you can believe anything posted on the internet, there are many statements about 'containment' where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society. If so they serve another 5 years. These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.

                          The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                          ict558 wrote:

                          where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society

                          How do they decide if he still remains a danger to society? Do they let him out and see if he kills few hundreds more?

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                          • D David1987

                            If they kill him, he won't have enough time to suffer.

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                            David1987 wrote:

                            If they kill him, he won't have enough time to suffer.

                            But, that should deter other criminals from attempting such heinous acts. A good legal system should not just punish crimes, it should also prevent crimes.

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                            • S soap brain

                              At least 91 people confirmed dead so far. A despicable act by a predictably right-wing fuckwit.

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                              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                              At least 91 people confirmed dead so far. A despicable act by a predictably right-wing f###wit.

                              Most "right-wingers" are in fact the sanest and most practical people on the planet. Certainly there are fringe-looneys on both sides of the fence, but to say "predictably right-wing" presumes that most acts of terror are committed by right-wingers. History does not agree. If there is ever to be peace in the world, it'll come from the right, not the left.

                              XAlan Burkhart

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                                ict558 wrote:

                                where, at the end of the 21 years, prisoners are assessed as to whether they remain a danger to society

                                How do they decide if he still remains a danger to society? Do they let him out and see if he kills few hundreds more?

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                                Shameel wrote:

                                How do they decide if he still remains a danger to society?

                                I have no idea. Perhaps you should Google for details of the Norwegian Parole process.

                                The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                                • O Oakman

                                  ict558 wrote:

                                  These 5 yearly sentences could be repeated ad mortem, I suppose.

                                  Yep, however if a prisoner is sentenced to containment at the time of his trial, he can also be paroled after ten years, or any time thereafter. If he does serve his full term, another hearing in court must be conducted to sentence him to another 5 years, and so on. Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc. I would hope that the bleeding hearts withhold their feelings of fellowship with this guy.

                                  The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc.

                                  Policy, rather than habit, surely. I have no knowledge of the Norwegian Parole process or its Recidivism Index.

                                  The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    Norway also has the rather interesting habit of giving murders and other criminals unsupervised parole for weekends, etc.

                                    Policy, rather than habit, surely. I have no knowledge of the Norwegian Parole process or its Recidivism Index.

                                    The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                                    Oakman
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                                    ict558 wrote:

                                    Policy, rather than habit, surely

                                    A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.

                                    The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                                    • A Alan Burkhart

                                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                      At least 91 people confirmed dead so far. A despicable act by a predictably right-wing f###wit.

                                      Most "right-wingers" are in fact the sanest and most practical people on the planet. Certainly there are fringe-looneys on both sides of the fence, but to say "predictably right-wing" presumes that most acts of terror are committed by right-wingers. History does not agree. If there is ever to be peace in the world, it'll come from the right, not the left.

                                      XAlan Burkhart

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                                      Alan Burkhart wrote:

                                      Most "right-wingers" are in fact the sanest and most practical people on the planet. Certainly there are fringe-looneys on both sides of the fence, but to say "predictably right-wing" presumes that most acts of terror are committed by right-wingers. History does not agree. If there is ever to be peace in the world, it'll come from the right, not the left.

                                      :laugh: How ridiculous you are.

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        ict558 wrote:

                                        Policy, rather than habit, surely

                                        A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.

                                        The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.

                                        Fine. As long as I may infer a customary practice, rather than an unconscious pattern of behaviour. :) Now, 'bleeding hearts' ...

                                        The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          A conceptual metaphor, old boy. Nothing more.

                                          Fine. As long as I may infer a customary practice, rather than an unconscious pattern of behaviour. :) Now, 'bleeding hearts' ...

                                          The 1-legged bar stool of understanding is supported by booze. Equipped with that, I know everything, and the rest of you are just a bunch of ignorant peasants with dung on your boots. A R G H

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                                          ict558 wrote:

                                          Now, 'bleeding hearts'

                                          And old and tired metaphor for those who worry more about a perpetrator's rights than a victim's family's.

                                          ict558 wrote:

                                          As long as I may infer

                                          You may infer as you wish, but do not make the mistake of assuming that I imply what you prefer. (This is good advice not only on message boards, but when meeting a young lady. ;) )

                                          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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