Cold water in cold weather
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Guys My friend said that drinking cold water (or liquids like Coke, Pepsi etc...) only makes me feel colder. Is this true? If so, what's the scientific explanation? In fact ever since he told me that, I shiver a little more after having a chilled Coke :-( Nish
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If you drink something cold, it makes you cold. Duh. :P Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
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NO :(..lol It was a counsolor at a camp I was at, discussing the issue of heat (it was the summer) and mantaining homeostatis. MUST format c: /y mac's (NOOO!!! no command line humanity is doomed..) -Steven
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I've found the same thing to be true. In fact, it's been a'rainin' here the past couple of days and every time I think about drinking a Coke, I decide against it because I don't want to get colder. Besides, scientifically, thermodynamics says that heat goes from hot objects to cold objects. Considering that normal body temperature is far hotter than a chilled coke, when you drink that coke, the heat leaves your body to warm the coke and the coke's "cold" goes to you until the two come to an equilibrium. So it would make sense that you do lower your body heat (slightly) when you drink a Coke. Wow, my physics professor would be proud. :-D
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David Stone wrote: Wow, my physics professor would be proud. Yeah, maybe :) Until you said the part about the "Coke's 'cold' will go into you"... tsk tsk tsk... There is only heat, no "cold" -- just like black is not a colour, but the absence of all colour... or is that white? :confused: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
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Steven Hicks wrote: NO:( ..lol It's okay. That was more of a crack at how psychologists don't really have any medical training than a dig on you. And my answer probably makes more sense than his. Besides, whose word are you going to take? A computer science major or a camp counselor? :laugh:
I don't know whether it's just the light but I swear the database server gives me dirty looks everytime I wander past. -Chris Maunder Microsoft has reinvented the wheel, this time they made it round. -Peterchen on VS.NET
David Stone wrote: my answer probably makes more sense than his. Besides, whose word are you going to take? A computer science major or a camp counselor Really, who's word are you going to take? A computer science major, or a physicist? :laugh: No, really, that was a very accurate explanation you gave. Keep up the good work! Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
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Steven Hicks wrote: NO:( ..lol It's okay. That was more of a crack at how psychologists don't really have any medical training than a dig on you. And my answer probably makes more sense than his. Besides, whose word are you going to take? A computer science major or a camp counselor? :laugh:
I don't know whether it's just the light but I swear the database server gives me dirty looks everytime I wander past. -Chris Maunder Microsoft has reinvented the wheel, this time they made it round. -Peterchen on VS.NET
David Stone wrote: my answer probably makes more sense than his. Besides, whose word are you going to take? A computer science major or a camp counselor Really, whose word are you going to take? A computer science major, or a physicist? :laugh: No, really, that was a very accurate explanation you gave. Keep up the good work! Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
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I've found the same thing to be true. In fact, it's been a'rainin' here the past couple of days and every time I think about drinking a Coke, I decide against it because I don't want to get colder. Besides, scientifically, thermodynamics says that heat goes from hot objects to cold objects. Considering that normal body temperature is far hotter than a chilled coke, when you drink that coke, the heat leaves your body to warm the coke and the coke's "cold" goes to you until the two come to an equilibrium. So it would make sense that you do lower your body heat (slightly) when you drink a Coke. Wow, my physics professor would be proud. :-D
I don't know whether it's just the light but I swear the database server gives me dirty looks everytime I wander past. -Chris Maunder Microsoft has reinvented the wheel, this time they made it round. -Peterchen on VS.NET
David Stone wrote: So it would make sense that you do lower your body heat (slightly) when you drink a Coke. Wow! I wonder why I didn't think of that. You are dead right david :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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David Stone wrote: Wow, my physics professor would be proud. Yeah, maybe :) Until you said the part about the "Coke's 'cold' will go into you"... tsk tsk tsk... There is only heat, no "cold" -- just like black is not a colour, but the absence of all colour... or is that white? :confused: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
Brian Hart wrote: Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy :omg: :omg: :omg: :-) Cool! I have a friend in the same Univ. But I guess it's too large for you to know her :-) Nish
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David Stone wrote: Wow, my physics professor would be proud. Yeah, maybe :) Until you said the part about the "Coke's 'cold' will go into you"... tsk tsk tsk... There is only heat, no "cold" -- just like black is not a colour, but the absence of all colour... or is that white? :confused: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
Now wait a minute! The selection of Q, heat, is entirely arbitrary. One could as easily describe the universe in terms of C, cold, and define a new science of Cryodynamics. Heat, after all, is just the absence of Cold. You'd have to reverse the sign for standard enthalpy calculations, but the relative magnitudes wouldn't change. ;P "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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Brian Hart wrote: Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy :omg: :omg: :omg: :-) Cool! I have a friend in the same Univ. But I guess it's too large for you to know her :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Wow! Small world - I went to school there in 1973-74. Unfortunately being a DJ at the radio station was a lot more interesting than sitting in a lecture hall with 300 students, listening to a TA that can't speak English, so I quit. "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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If you drink something cold, it makes you cold. Duh. :P Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 -
Guys My friend said that drinking cold water (or liquids like Coke, Pepsi etc...) only makes me feel colder. Is this true? If so, what's the scientific explanation? In fact ever since he told me that, I shiver a little more after having a chilled Coke :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Your body can be treated, in a limited sense, as a closed system. Within its confines there exist a number of kcals of heat. When you introduce a fluid of lower temperature than the ambient, heat is transferred from your body to the new fluid to establish a new equilibrium. This has the effect of drawing heat out of your body, causing you to feel colder. Fortunately the body is a fairly good generator of heat, and as you metabolize food it releases heat into its own system as a byproduct of the process. If you're eating properly, a soft drink or two should have no lasting effect. Still, since you're in a cold climate, why not cut out the middleman and drink hot cocoa instead?:) It's quite good... "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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Wow! Small world - I went to school there in 1973-74. Unfortunately being a DJ at the radio station was a lot more interesting than sitting in a lecture hall with 300 students, listening to a TA that can't speak English, so I quit. "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
Roger Wright wrote: listening to a TA that TA? What's a TA and why did you have to listen to it? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Now wait a minute! The selection of Q, heat, is entirely arbitrary. One could as easily describe the universe in terms of C, cold, and define a new science of Cryodynamics. Heat, after all, is just the absence of Cold. You'd have to reverse the sign for standard enthalpy calculations, but the relative magnitudes wouldn't change. ;P "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
Roger Wright wrote: Now wait a minute! The selection of Q, heat, is entirely arbitrary. One could as easily describe the universe in terms of C, cold, and define a new science of Cryodynamics. Heat, after all, is just the absence of Cold. You'd have to reverse the sign for standard enthalpy calculations, but the relative magnitudes wouldn't change. Uhm ok, but the whole point is if you drink cold water you feel cold eh? I liked you cocoa suggestion in the other post. I think I'll ask for some nhit chocolate though I am not sure many restaurants serve it here :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Your body can be treated, in a limited sense, as a closed system. Within its confines there exist a number of kcals of heat. When you introduce a fluid of lower temperature than the ambient, heat is transferred from your body to the new fluid to establish a new equilibrium. This has the effect of drawing heat out of your body, causing you to feel colder. Fortunately the body is a fairly good generator of heat, and as you metabolize food it releases heat into its own system as a byproduct of the process. If you're eating properly, a soft drink or two should have no lasting effect. Still, since you're in a cold climate, why not cut out the middleman and drink hot cocoa instead?:) It's quite good... "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
Roger Wright wrote: Still, since you're in a cold climate, why not cut out the middleman and drink hot cocoa instead? It's quite good... It's not available anywhere near where I work :-( Only a few places have even coffee :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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MyMojo wrote: drink my mojo! it keeps you hot baybeeeyy! Did you just sign up 1 minute ago, to make this post? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Roger Wright wrote: listening to a TA that TA? What's a TA and why did you have to listen to it? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
TA == Teachers_Assistant; You have to listen to it because it's there by the professor's authority.
I don't know whether it's just the light but I swear the database server gives me dirty looks everytime I wander past. -Chris Maunder Microsoft has reinvented the wheel, this time they made it round. -Peterchen on VS.NET
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Roger Wright wrote: listening to a TA that TA? What's a TA and why did you have to listen to it? Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Sorry...:-O TA= Teaching Assistant. In major Universities in the US, graduate students are often given reduced fees in exchange for teaching courses under the supervision of professors. At the time, professors were rewarded for doing research, not teaching, and at UCI we never saw our professors. Most of the teaching, and all of the after-hours tutoring, was done by TAs, and none of them spoke English. No one dared disturb a professor doing research that might bring money, in the form of a grant, to the university. I hope that has changed by now, but then it was a major problem. I quit to attend a state college, where teachers were paid to teach, and were expected to hold office hours after class to help students. I got a much better education as a result. "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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David Stone wrote: Wow, my physics professor would be proud. Yeah, maybe :) Until you said the part about the "Coke's 'cold' will go into you"... tsk tsk tsk... There is only heat, no "cold" -- just like black is not a colour, but the absence of all colour... or is that white? :confused: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
Brian Hart wrote: Until you said the part about the "Coke's 'cold' will go into you"... tsk tsk tsk... Oh man...I thought about you while writing that and was hoping that you wouldn't see that post. I knew I was gonna get grilled for that. :-O I've found that that's the best way to explain it in layman's terms. Those who don't understand the Celsius scale and definitely not the Kelvin scale don't get that there is no "cold", only "no heat".
I don't know whether it's just the light but I swear the database server gives me dirty looks everytime I wander past. -Chris Maunder Microsoft has reinvented the wheel, this time they made it round. -Peterchen on VS.NET
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Roger Wright wrote: Now wait a minute! The selection of Q, heat, is entirely arbitrary. One could as easily describe the universe in terms of C, cold, and define a new science of Cryodynamics. Heat, after all, is just the absence of Cold. You'd have to reverse the sign for standard enthalpy calculations, but the relative magnitudes wouldn't change. Uhm ok, but the whole point is if you drink cold water you feel cold eh? I liked you cocoa suggestion in the other post. I think I'll ask for some nhit chocolate though I am not sure many restaurants serve it here :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
They almost all serve it, Nish, and I highly recommend it. A nice mug of hot cocoa relaxes the nerves and helps to ensure a good night's sleep. It has no nasty side effects that I know of, other than the risk of growing fat (I doubt that you're in danger of that). I read somewhere that it contains caffeine, but my personal experience belies that claim. It knocks me out better than any remedy save one, and I'll save that one for another time. It gives young, handsome men too much of an advantage over young women, and I wouldn't want to corrupt you. "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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David Stone wrote: Wow, my physics professor would be proud. Yeah, maybe :) Until you said the part about the "Coke's 'cold' will go into you"... tsk tsk tsk... There is only heat, no "cold" -- just like black is not a colour, but the absence of all colour... or is that white? :confused: Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
Brian Hart wrote: just like black is not a colour Hmm... in my personal view of the universe, it depends on mixing additive or subtractive: white is no color for paper, black is no color for screens.
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