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As a desktop app developer, would you target Mac OS and Linux?

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  • C Christian Graus

    We target Mac. Linux users have no money, or, at least, prefer not to pay for software

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    charlieg
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    There's a nugget for all you s/w developers right there.

    Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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      Since most people use Windows

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      Linux for the servers and Windows for the client, it's driven by customer demand. If someone decides to pay for a mac front end, we'll develop it.


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        Since most people use Windows

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        David1987
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        Nope, not a big enough audience to justify the extra testing. If people use Wine/Mono/whatever to run it on Linux and it works, good for them. If it doesn't, too bad.

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          Since most people use Windows

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          Jeremy Hutchinson
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          If I were creating an app targeting home users, I'd use Silverlight (unless I had a need for something it didn't offer). That would allow it to run on Windows and Macs, I wouldn't worry about Linux in that market.

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          • C Christian Graus

            We target Mac. Linux users have no money, or, at least, prefer not to pay for software

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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            A quite reasonable approach. Especially if you have to earn a living by this. Cheers!

            "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."

            Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925

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            • B BobJanova

              No, but, as a C# developer, I would try to write pure .Net so that my apps would run under Mono with little or no effort.

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              Dan Neely
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              Doesn't mono use it's own (GTK based??) UI library instead of winforms/wpf?

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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              • D Dan Neely

                Doesn't mono use it's own (GTK based??) UI library instead of winforms/wpf?

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                David1987
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                Not sure about wpf, but it works with winforms as well

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                • G Gary Wheeler

                  With hollow-point ammunition, definitely.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  rcollina
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                  If only I could vote more than 5... :)

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                    Since most people use Windows

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                    Maximilien
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                    If your application is in the multimedia/sound/graphic domain :probably yes. (for example lightroom (photo), traktor (dj), resolume (vj) ) if not : no.

                    Watched code never compiles.

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      Doesn't mono use it's own (GTK based??) UI library instead of winforms/wpf?

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                      BobJanova
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                      There is a bit of a terminology issue here, I think. System.Windows.Forms (and whatever the WPF one is called, as well, I think) has been translated for Mono so that it works with the native operating system window manager. So from a .Net developer perspective, you don't need to do anything different, except allow for different control styles as the UI themes are different.

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                      • G Gary Wheeler

                        With hollow-point ammunition, definitely.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Colin Mullikin
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                        :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That just made my day!

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                        • C Colin Mullikin

                          :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That just made my day!

                          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          All part of the friendly service :-D.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          • B BobJanova

                            There is a bit of a terminology issue here, I think. System.Windows.Forms (and whatever the WPF one is called, as well, I think) has been translated for Mono so that it works with the native operating system window manager. So from a .Net developer perspective, you don't need to do anything different, except allow for different control styles as the UI themes are different.

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                            Dan Neely
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                            I think I'm just out of date. Gtk#[^] is one of mono's UI libraries, and the history[^] for mono's winform library includes two initial failed attempts, implying it was a relative latecomer to the platform (although specific dates aren't given anywhere I can see).

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                              Since most people use Windows

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              What are those? :confused:

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                                Since most people use Windows

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                                Mike Hankey
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                                I would think a 50 cal. sniper scope would do the job nicely?

                                I may be schizophrenic, but at least I have each other.

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                                • G Gary Wheeler

                                  With hollow-point ammunition, definitely.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  Kyle Sponable
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                                  Yeah I know you windoze boys are sorta jealous of the computational superiority of the *nix architecture ;P

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                                  • K Kyle Sponable

                                    Yeah I know you windoze boys are sorta jealous of the computational superiority of the *nix architecture ;P

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                                    Gary R Wheeler
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                                    CG says it best[^]

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • G Gary Wheeler

                                      With hollow-point ammunition, definitely.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      BobJanova
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                                      Well played sir.

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                                        Since most people use Windows

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                                        Zan Lynx
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                                        Yep. I would. I like targeting multiple platforms because it forces a certain mindset about portability. I find it improves the design and keeps the GUI more separate from the functionality. It also exposes the code to a lot more build environments which can expose subtle bugs. I like building for ARM, IA64 and PPC for the same reasons.

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          We target Mac. Linux users have no money, or, at least, prefer not to pay for software

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          MSHYYC
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                                          This depends on your business model. Red Hat and IBM make a great deal of money from Linux users, but their revenue is not from a product-based model, it is from a services-and-solutions based model. You also miss a huge portion of some markets if you neglect Linux (in particular, mobile and embedded systems). Android, an OS that uses the Linux kernel, has the top market share in mobile--even if the stereotype were even partly true that "linux users don't pay for software" I think it's a pretty safe bet that There is more revene potential for an Android app than for a Windows Phone app ;-)

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