"I consider myself a fairly skilled programmer..."
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lewax00 wrote:
Who measures code length in pages?
Yeah, I measure it in chapters. Oh, wait...
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lewax00 wrote:
Who measures code length in pages?
Yeah, I measure it in chapters. Oh, wait...
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
I measure in DPI.
Martin Fowler wrote:
Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
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Not really. That used to be quite common back in the old Unix C days, and there were lots of highly skilled devs back then.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
and there were lots of highly skilled devs back then
that is still debatable... Atleast if they were using this 'common' methodology ;P
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Check out this posting. Amusing. http://cboard.cprogramming.com/cplusplus-programming/102155-any-cool-programming-project-ideas.html[^] and I quote... I guess I should mention, all of my programs have all of their code in one source code file, usually no more than 10 pages. I don't really know how to tell the compiler to compile multiple source code files that are supposed to form one program. I consider myself a fairly skilled programmer, in that I can write programs to solve complicated mathematical or scientific problems, or run cool simulations, like a basic 2D flight simulator (with VERY basic graphics, but very accurate flight modeling) or whatever. But these are usually short (<10 pages), one-source-code-file programs. I am kind of lost working on "big" projects like this. Unfortunately, most of the open source software I use, like OpenOffice, or Dev-C++, etc, are "big" (hundreds of pages of code, many source files, etc) and I wouldnt know where to start as far as adding a feature or fixing a bug. I know C++ very well, ie, how to use classes, pointers, inheritance, structures, loops, and pretty much all of the language features of C++, but I dont know how to work with "big" projects that use multiple source code files, libraries, data files, graphics resources, etc.
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He could be skilled at writing small programs, and just have a bizarrely large blindspot in his skillset. It depends on the font, but 10 pages is probably around 500 lines of code which isn't unreasonable for a single class, and a small utility program. I was largely self taught for anything relating to scaling code as a HS student in the 90s and much of my initial impetus for splitting procedural code up had to do with memory limits of a 16bit compiler than anything design related. :-O
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I measure in DPI.
Martin Fowler wrote:
Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
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Check out this posting. Amusing. http://cboard.cprogramming.com/cplusplus-programming/102155-any-cool-programming-project-ideas.html[^] and I quote... I guess I should mention, all of my programs have all of their code in one source code file, usually no more than 10 pages. I don't really know how to tell the compiler to compile multiple source code files that are supposed to form one program. I consider myself a fairly skilled programmer, in that I can write programs to solve complicated mathematical or scientific problems, or run cool simulations, like a basic 2D flight simulator (with VERY basic graphics, but very accurate flight modeling) or whatever. But these are usually short (<10 pages), one-source-code-file programs. I am kind of lost working on "big" projects like this. Unfortunately, most of the open source software I use, like OpenOffice, or Dev-C++, etc, are "big" (hundreds of pages of code, many source files, etc) and I wouldnt know where to start as far as adding a feature or fixing a bug. I know C++ very well, ie, how to use classes, pointers, inheritance, structures, loops, and pretty much all of the language features of C++, but I dont know how to work with "big" projects that use multiple source code files, libraries, data files, graphics resources, etc.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind
Maybe he is a fairly accomplished programmer - but a
Kevin Marois wrote:
2D flight simulator
is surely an oxymoron. Maybe a 2d Ant simulator but I am still trying to get my head around 2 dimensions and flight...
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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Check out this posting. Amusing. http://cboard.cprogramming.com/cplusplus-programming/102155-any-cool-programming-project-ideas.html[^] and I quote... I guess I should mention, all of my programs have all of their code in one source code file, usually no more than 10 pages. I don't really know how to tell the compiler to compile multiple source code files that are supposed to form one program. I consider myself a fairly skilled programmer, in that I can write programs to solve complicated mathematical or scientific problems, or run cool simulations, like a basic 2D flight simulator (with VERY basic graphics, but very accurate flight modeling) or whatever. But these are usually short (<10 pages), one-source-code-file programs. I am kind of lost working on "big" projects like this. Unfortunately, most of the open source software I use, like OpenOffice, or Dev-C++, etc, are "big" (hundreds of pages of code, many source files, etc) and I wouldnt know where to start as far as adding a feature or fixing a bug. I know C++ very well, ie, how to use classes, pointers, inheritance, structures, loops, and pretty much all of the language features of C++, but I dont know how to work with "big" projects that use multiple source code files, libraries, data files, graphics resources, etc.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind
On my first "professional" programming gig (circa 1994) after college I realized that no one had taught me how to build large systems, so all the files were
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Maybe he is a fairly accomplished programmer - but a
Kevin Marois wrote:
2D flight simulator
is surely an oxymoron. Maybe a 2d Ant simulator but I am still trying to get my head around 2 dimensions and flight...
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
Up, Down, Left, Right and here is the graphics
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0 -- 0Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
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Up, Down, Left, Right and here is the graphics
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0 -- 0Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
My 2D ant simulator eats your 2d plane!
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0 --oo i oooo i i oooo i i oo i iooi iiiiiooooiiiii oooo oo iooi ioooo i i oooo i i oo iContinuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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On my first "professional" programming gig (circa 1994) after college I realized that no one had taught me how to build large systems, so all the files were
#included together. X|at least you were "thinking outside the box" :thumbsup:
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
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Check out this posting. Amusing. http://cboard.cprogramming.com/cplusplus-programming/102155-any-cool-programming-project-ideas.html[^] and I quote... I guess I should mention, all of my programs have all of their code in one source code file, usually no more than 10 pages. I don't really know how to tell the compiler to compile multiple source code files that are supposed to form one program. I consider myself a fairly skilled programmer, in that I can write programs to solve complicated mathematical or scientific problems, or run cool simulations, like a basic 2D flight simulator (with VERY basic graphics, but very accurate flight modeling) or whatever. But these are usually short (<10 pages), one-source-code-file programs. I am kind of lost working on "big" projects like this. Unfortunately, most of the open source software I use, like OpenOffice, or Dev-C++, etc, are "big" (hundreds of pages of code, many source files, etc) and I wouldnt know where to start as far as adding a feature or fixing a bug. I know C++ very well, ie, how to use classes, pointers, inheritance, structures, loops, and pretty much all of the language features of C++, but I dont know how to work with "big" projects that use multiple source code files, libraries, data files, graphics resources, etc.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind
that Maunder's CV you're reading again? *grin* Bryce
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at least you were "thinking outside the box" :thumbsup:
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
Only because I couldn't find the appropriate box.
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Did you link to the wrong post? When I click the link, I'm taken to a post over three years old in which someone is asking for programming ideas.
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My first program, written on the Timex Sinclair, was printed out on "cash register" paper. I measured it in feet...
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My first program, written on the Timex Sinclair, was printed out on "cash register" paper. I measured it in feet...
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Check out this posting. Amusing. http://cboard.cprogramming.com/cplusplus-programming/102155-any-cool-programming-project-ideas.html[^] and I quote... I guess I should mention, all of my programs have all of their code in one source code file, usually no more than 10 pages. I don't really know how to tell the compiler to compile multiple source code files that are supposed to form one program. I consider myself a fairly skilled programmer, in that I can write programs to solve complicated mathematical or scientific problems, or run cool simulations, like a basic 2D flight simulator (with VERY basic graphics, but very accurate flight modeling) or whatever. But these are usually short (<10 pages), one-source-code-file programs. I am kind of lost working on "big" projects like this. Unfortunately, most of the open source software I use, like OpenOffice, or Dev-C++, etc, are "big" (hundreds of pages of code, many source files, etc) and I wouldnt know where to start as far as adding a feature or fixing a bug. I know C++ very well, ie, how to use classes, pointers, inheritance, structures, loops, and pretty much all of the language features of C++, but I dont know how to work with "big" projects that use multiple source code files, libraries, data files, graphics resources, etc.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind
If you cannot do things in C++ that virtually every C++ programmer can do, then your claim to be skilled is suspect. If you cannot learn to do new things, then your claim to be a skilled programmer is suspect. The entire point of object oriented programming is to break up a big problem into a series of small problems that can be solved in a few pages. If you have not grasped this fact, then your claim to have any skill whatsoever in C++ is suspect. It's entirely possible that you are using a C++ compiler, but your programs are more like C programs, or assembler. What is it you lost between the time you learned to program and today, so that you cannot learn to do separate compilation? Go find that thing, and get it back. Then learn to compile multiple files. It's not that hard. In fact, any other C++ programmer should be able to explain it o you in five minutes. Perhaps you don't know any other programmers. Then you have no basis on which to compare your skill. Perhaps you're missing very basic concepts like what a compiler, linker, and loader does. If so your claim to skill is maybe not supported by any factual data at all.
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Also be sure to use double spacing to increase productivity 200%.
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My first program, written on the Timex Sinclair, was printed out on "cash register" paper. I measured it in feet...
My first programs were input using punch cards, so I measured the deck thickness in inches. lol.
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Back in the day when mainframes roamed the planet and ate punch cards, we used to measure code size by inches...thick. When I went to work at the headquarters of a major railroad, the largest program written had been 3-1/2" thick. I blew their minds when the first S/370 assembler program I wrote was 1-1/2 cartons long. They thought I was writing a compiler or something. I was writing a universal database editor (when databases were flat files and I'd go to calculator club meeting and there was this old gentleman raving about this new thing called "Sequel") so I'd never have to write another. It was mostly macro generated, it allowed multiple commands that did the same thing (edit, change, modify), columns were not fixed for data,...it was beautiful.
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Check out this posting. Amusing. http://cboard.cprogramming.com/cplusplus-programming/102155-any-cool-programming-project-ideas.html[^] and I quote... I guess I should mention, all of my programs have all of their code in one source code file, usually no more than 10 pages. I don't really know how to tell the compiler to compile multiple source code files that are supposed to form one program. I consider myself a fairly skilled programmer, in that I can write programs to solve complicated mathematical or scientific problems, or run cool simulations, like a basic 2D flight simulator (with VERY basic graphics, but very accurate flight modeling) or whatever. But these are usually short (<10 pages), one-source-code-file programs. I am kind of lost working on "big" projects like this. Unfortunately, most of the open source software I use, like OpenOffice, or Dev-C++, etc, are "big" (hundreds of pages of code, many source files, etc) and I wouldnt know where to start as far as adding a feature or fixing a bug. I know C++ very well, ie, how to use classes, pointers, inheritance, structures, loops, and pretty much all of the language features of C++, but I dont know how to work with "big" projects that use multiple source code files, libraries, data files, graphics resources, etc.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind