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  • C Christian Graus

    For any Mac users, I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me. I have a Mac Pro, bought 2 1/2 years ago. I have two hard drives, one has OSX and one has Windows XP. I want to install a 64 bit OS, so it can use all my RAM and VS might even let me compile my app more than twice without needing a restart. However, it does not support XP 64 bit, I know that much. Can I install a third hard drive and have two versions of Windows installed ? I expect I should, but, the Mac store assured me I could partition my hard drive I run Windows on, and that turned out not to be true, I paid them to do it for me, just to save me losing a day, and they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    David Crow
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    ...they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

    How could they return a computer to you knowing that it would not boot? Did they indicate such?

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      ...they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

      How could they return a computer to you knowing that it would not boot? Did they indicate such?

      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

      "Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather

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      Christian Graus
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      No, they just gave it to me, I took it home and it would not boot at all. I got on another computer, got online, worked out the problems and fixed them, then called and explained to them why their advice was wrong and why they screwed up my machine. They kept the money they charged me to make my computer unusable, and I spent twice as long fixing it as I'd hoped to have to spend on setting it up.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      • C Christian Graus

        No, they just gave it to me, I took it home and it would not boot at all. I got on another computer, got online, worked out the problems and fixed them, then called and explained to them why their advice was wrong and why they screwed up my machine. They kept the money they charged me to make my computer unusable, and I spent twice as long fixing it as I'd hoped to have to spend on setting it up.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        gavindon
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        I have a habit of not walking out of a repair center in any situation like that. I want to see what they "fixed" in action before I budge from the counter.

        Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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          I have a habit of not walking out of a repair center in any situation like that. I want to see what they "fixed" in action before I budge from the counter.

          Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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          Christian Graus
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          Not a bad idea, but I'd feel like, if I made them hook it all up, and it all worked, I'd feel a goon.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Not a bad idea, but I'd feel like, if I made them hook it all up, and it all worked, I'd feel a goon.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            gavindon
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            that's true but.. you have a choice of maybe feel like a goon, or....I'm sure the way you feel now has a different description... :-D

            Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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              that's true but.. you have a choice of maybe feel like a goon, or....I'm sure the way you feel now has a different description... :-D

              Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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              Christian Graus
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              *grin* well, I wish I'd got a refund and I'd never trust them with a computer again, but, I sure did call and abuse them.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • C Christian Graus

                For any Mac users, I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me. I have a Mac Pro, bought 2 1/2 years ago. I have two hard drives, one has OSX and one has Windows XP. I want to install a 64 bit OS, so it can use all my RAM and VS might even let me compile my app more than twice without needing a restart. However, it does not support XP 64 bit, I know that much. Can I install a third hard drive and have two versions of Windows installed ? I expect I should, but, the Mac store assured me I could partition my hard drive I run Windows on, and that turned out not to be true, I paid them to do it for me, just to save me losing a day, and they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Tom Delany
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                I managed to install OS/X, Windows 7, and Linux on a single hard drive, but that is probably not much help to you. I don't know if you can install 2 different versions of Windows on 3 hard drives or not (was not an option for me since I have an iMac - at least using multiple internal hard disks was not an option). My install involved using BootCamp to divide up the hard disk for OS/X and Windows (allowing enough space on the Windows (BootCamp) partition to hold both Windows and my Linux install). I then booted to Windows and ran the Ubuntu installer and let it split up the Windows partition as it saw fit. I used rEFIt to make them all (easily) bootable. http://refit.sourceforge.net/[^] Don't know if any of the above is of any use to your situation though. :~

                WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                  I managed to install OS/X, Windows 7, and Linux on a single hard drive, but that is probably not much help to you. I don't know if you can install 2 different versions of Windows on 3 hard drives or not (was not an option for me since I have an iMac - at least using multiple internal hard disks was not an option). My install involved using BootCamp to divide up the hard disk for OS/X and Windows (allowing enough space on the Windows (BootCamp) partition to hold both Windows and my Linux install). I then booted to Windows and ran the Ubuntu installer and let it split up the Windows partition as it saw fit. I used rEFIt to make them all (easily) bootable. http://refit.sourceforge.net/[^] Don't know if any of the above is of any use to your situation though. :~

                  WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Hmmm... yeah, getting the two versions of windows to just boot off the one drive is another decent option to consider....

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    For any Mac users, I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me. I have a Mac Pro, bought 2 1/2 years ago. I have two hard drives, one has OSX and one has Windows XP. I want to install a 64 bit OS, so it can use all my RAM and VS might even let me compile my app more than twice without needing a restart. However, it does not support XP 64 bit, I know that much. Can I install a third hard drive and have two versions of Windows installed ? I expect I should, but, the Mac store assured me I could partition my hard drive I run Windows on, and that turned out not to be true, I paid them to do it for me, just to save me losing a day, and they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Why is the entire world fucking you over Christian?

                    ============================== Nothing to say.

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                      Why is the entire world fucking you over Christian?

                      ============================== Nothing to say.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      I don't know, but it seems to me like they have regular meetings to plan it, they do it so well.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Hmmm... yeah, getting the two versions of windows to just boot off the one drive is another decent option to consider....

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        I know that is fairly easy on normal windows machines, I have had one with 3 different installs on the same drive. However being its on a Mac.... not sure how well that would work.

                        Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          For any Mac users, I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me. I have a Mac Pro, bought 2 1/2 years ago. I have two hard drives, one has OSX and one has Windows XP. I want to install a 64 bit OS, so it can use all my RAM and VS might even let me compile my app more than twice without needing a restart. However, it does not support XP 64 bit, I know that much. Can I install a third hard drive and have two versions of Windows installed ? I expect I should, but, the Mac store assured me I could partition my hard drive I run Windows on, and that turned out not to be true, I paid them to do it for me, just to save me losing a day, and they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Lost User
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me

                          Even the name is a lie, they're a shop not a store

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            For any Mac users, I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me. I have a Mac Pro, bought 2 1/2 years ago. I have two hard drives, one has OSX and one has Windows XP. I want to install a 64 bit OS, so it can use all my RAM and VS might even let me compile my app more than twice without needing a restart. However, it does not support XP 64 bit, I know that much. Can I install a third hard drive and have two versions of Windows installed ? I expect I should, but, the Mac store assured me I could partition my hard drive I run Windows on, and that turned out not to be true, I paid them to do it for me, just to save me losing a day, and they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            saxenaabhi6
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                            f I would you, I would have turned their shop upside down to take my money back.:mad:

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                              I know that is fairly easy on normal windows machines, I have had one with 3 different installs on the same drive. However being its on a Mac.... not sure how well that would work.

                              Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Exactly. It comes down to what boot camp will support ( for example, it won't support windows on a drive that has partitions ).

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                For any Mac users, I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me. I have a Mac Pro, bought 2 1/2 years ago. I have two hard drives, one has OSX and one has Windows XP. I want to install a 64 bit OS, so it can use all my RAM and VS might even let me compile my app more than twice without needing a restart. However, it does not support XP 64 bit, I know that much. Can I install a third hard drive and have two versions of Windows installed ? I expect I should, but, the Mac store assured me I could partition my hard drive I run Windows on, and that turned out not to be true, I paid them to do it for me, just to save me losing a day, and they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

                                Seems like an improvement. ::shrug::

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                                  Not a bad idea, but I'd feel like, if I made them hook it all up, and it all worked, I'd feel a goon.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  Paul M Watt
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                                  They count your money and make sure you gave them every penny they charged you. Make sure you get what you paid for, no hard feelings on either side, it's a business transaction.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    For any Mac users, I intend to ask my Mac store, but they have a strong record of lying to me. I have a Mac Pro, bought 2 1/2 years ago. I have two hard drives, one has OSX and one has Windows XP. I want to install a 64 bit OS, so it can use all my RAM and VS might even let me compile my app more than twice without needing a restart. However, it does not support XP 64 bit, I know that much. Can I install a third hard drive and have two versions of Windows installed ? I expect I should, but, the Mac store assured me I could partition my hard drive I run Windows on, and that turned out not to be true, I paid them to do it for me, just to save me losing a day, and they returned a Mac that would not boot at ALL.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    You need a Better Business Bureau or an "Angie's List"

                                    Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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