SEAL Team 6 - Things that make you go "Hmmmm" (this is very long) [modified]
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I found this on the web this morning, and if it didn't sound plausible, I wouldn't post it here. For our American users: Subject: The Execution of SEAL Team Six (and Ramadan) The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1) Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST Barnhardt.biz - Commodity Brokerage (CPR: She's the SAME Ann Barnhardt that burned the Koran for being EVIL.) You're damn right I said it. On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years. This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will. The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what? April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on Amazon.com - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked. April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to b
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I mean, really? You really think Obama is a part of some New World Order, that his presidency is a conspiracy, that you're going to have to fight the UN to maintain your "freedoms" or be interned in fema camps? That's fucking hilarious.
There is nothing funny about having a New World Order (Barack - Hebrew [don't let his spelling fool you]), Jihadist (Hussein - Muslim), Brit (Obama - Kenyan [Commonwealth]) President who is plotting to hand the USA back to Her Most Puissant(*) Majesty Queen Elizabeth II (titular(*) head of the New World Order). BTW. Osama was rescued by the SAS in 2001, and has a suite in Kensington Palace. His health is excellent. * I am sure there's a joke for Oakman here.
Truth, Justice ... or the American way? - Trad.
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There is nothing funny about having a New World Order (Barack - Hebrew [don't let his spelling fool you]), Jihadist (Hussein - Muslim), Brit (Obama - Kenyan [Commonwealth]) President who is plotting to hand the USA back to Her Most Puissant(*) Majesty Queen Elizabeth II (titular(*) head of the New World Order). BTW. Osama was rescued by the SAS in 2001, and has a suite in Kensington Palace. His health is excellent. * I am sure there's a joke for Oakman here.
Truth, Justice ... or the American way? - Trad.
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But plausibility goes so well with a psychotic rant, that you rarely see the two standing alone. :) The evidence of FEMA camps (completely fenced with inward facing barbed wire) and practice for marshal law by the armed forces (and not just the Guard) is simply too coincidental. Just because it seems ridiculous doesn't mean you should keep a steady eye on your six...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997I must confess that I find the FEMA camps rather extraordinary, and since the collapse of the Soviet Union (who had the Gulags), can see no reason for any nation to build - and carry on building - such structures. If I were an American citizen I would be asking my government hard questions concerning why they thought they needed such things, who they were for, and why they were costing so much money. However, it is worth remembering that it was during the Bush administration that FEMA got most of its teeth, and it was the Bush administration that gave Halliburton a $385M five year contract to build more camps in 2006.
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Obviously, you have a bad case of Attila Derangement Syndrome. ;)
Chris C-B wrote:
always evaluate intelligence in the light of its source,
Good enough. Have you evaluated the evidence for Osama's death going down the way it was reported (any of the varying reports put out by the White House until the found one they liked?) Perhaps John is overreacting, perhaps not. But there is no reason particularly to believe the Obama is telling us the truth - even though it would have been quite easy for him to have provided incontrovertible proof instead of making up a Muslim burial at sea ceremony. As John has already noted in his response, the FEMA camps do exist. It's equally true that we have in Napolitano someone who is far more concerned with demobilized veterans rising up than with groups like the Black Muslims, La Raza, or the folks planning on Days of rage at Wall Street and Broad. Why would someone assume that men and women who have put their lives on the line be the biggest threat to her version of law and order?
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
Have you evaluated the evidence for Osama's death going down the way it was reported (any of the varying reports put out by the White House until the found one they liked?)
I would never put down to conspiracy what can be explained by sheer bloody incompetence - and even more so when we are looking at the government, any government. I suspect the raid did not go entirely to plan, the compound was essentially unarmed, and a cold hard look at the details might have made it look too much like a cold blooded murder, considering Obama's 'regard for Moslem sensibilities'. This is also a good fit with the rapid burial and no photos (the corpse was shot to bits), and 'Moslem sensibilities' (within 24 hours). As a result, the incident had to be dressed up for public consumption, and this is one of the strongest arguments destroying the conspiracy theory - if it were pre-planned to the extent in the article, the story from the Whitehouse would have been smooth, off pat, and emminently believable. Personally, I would have stuck his head on a pike outside the Tower of London.
Oakman wrote:
there is no reason particularly to believe the Obama is telling us the truth
Ah - the truth! Now there is a slippery concept! We also had another maxim - it doesn't matter how much you know, learn, or analize a situation, you will never actually know the truth. In politics, the 'truth' is particularly malleable, and tends to become confused with 'convenience', 'expedience' or both. The best position to take is that he is telling you something between an outright lie, and a truth that even he doesn't know, because he wasn't there and the word passed up to him through many layers of command.
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I found this on the web this morning, and if it didn't sound plausible, I wouldn't post it here. For our American users: Subject: The Execution of SEAL Team Six (and Ramadan) The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1) Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST Barnhardt.biz - Commodity Brokerage (CPR: She's the SAME Ann Barnhardt that burned the Koran for being EVIL.) You're damn right I said it. On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi Arab Muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years. This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will. The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what? April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on Amazon.com - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked. April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to b
My vote of 1 (I'll get downvoted myself probably). The article sounds like complete nonsense to me. I'm convinced that there are things "covered up" for the benefit of the few, but I doubt that even 5% if this article comes near the truth. The change in tone and extreme language building up near the end removes any objectivity IMHO. You never know of course and it was an amusing read.
V.
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I must confess that I find the FEMA camps rather extraordinary, and since the collapse of the Soviet Union (who had the Gulags), can see no reason for any nation to build - and carry on building - such structures. If I were an American citizen I would be asking my government hard questions concerning why they thought they needed such things, who they were for, and why they were costing so much money. However, it is worth remembering that it was during the Bush administration that FEMA got most of its teeth, and it was the Bush administration that gave Halliburton a $385M five year contract to build more camps in 2006.
I have no reason to defend Bush - and was called a traitor by one wingnut right here on CP because Of my criticism of his handling of Iraq, But Bush is no excuse for Obama, they are simply a 1-2 punch to the Constitution.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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I mean, really? You really think Obama is a part of some New World Order, that his presidency is a conspiracy, that you're going to have to fight the UN to maintain your "freedoms" or be interned in fema camps? That's fucking hilarious.
The last time I was told I was a conspiracy nut I was saying that Brown and Blair conspired with Qaddafi and the Scots to release the Lockerbie bomber in return for a nice fat oil contract. Now if I told you that Bush had ordered the FEMA camps started, I imagine that a great number of those who find the conspiracy theory laughable would suddenly say - "oh, well, that's all right, then. You have reason to worry.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Oakman wrote:
Have you evaluated the evidence for Osama's death going down the way it was reported (any of the varying reports put out by the White House until the found one they liked?)
I would never put down to conspiracy what can be explained by sheer bloody incompetence - and even more so when we are looking at the government, any government. I suspect the raid did not go entirely to plan, the compound was essentially unarmed, and a cold hard look at the details might have made it look too much like a cold blooded murder, considering Obama's 'regard for Moslem sensibilities'. This is also a good fit with the rapid burial and no photos (the corpse was shot to bits), and 'Moslem sensibilities' (within 24 hours). As a result, the incident had to be dressed up for public consumption, and this is one of the strongest arguments destroying the conspiracy theory - if it were pre-planned to the extent in the article, the story from the Whitehouse would have been smooth, off pat, and emminently believable. Personally, I would have stuck his head on a pike outside the Tower of London.
Oakman wrote:
there is no reason particularly to believe the Obama is telling us the truth
Ah - the truth! Now there is a slippery concept! We also had another maxim - it doesn't matter how much you know, learn, or analize a situation, you will never actually know the truth. In politics, the 'truth' is particularly malleable, and tends to become confused with 'convenience', 'expedience' or both. The best position to take is that he is telling you something between an outright lie, and a truth that even he doesn't know, because he wasn't there and the word passed up to him through many layers of command.
Chris C-B wrote:
it doesn't matter how much you know, learn, or analize a situation, you will never actually know the truth.
Sure you will - open the box and look at the cat.
Chris C-B wrote:
The best position to take is that he is telling you something between an outright lie, and a truth that even he doesn't know, because he wasn't there and the word passed up to him through many layers of command.
My point was that Obama had the means to show a dead Osama to the world and instead invented Islamic burial at sea. That was his choice and his alone. Political leaders, by the way, love to use the chain of command as an excuse for the lies they tell. It is always some subordinate who is blamed. It has become quite clear that, with Obama, nothing is his fault.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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The last time I was told I was a conspiracy nut I was saying that Brown and Blair conspired with Qaddafi and the Scots to release the Lockerbie bomber in return for a nice fat oil contract. Now if I told you that Bush had ordered the FEMA camps started, I imagine that a great number of those who find the conspiracy theory laughable would suddenly say - "oh, well, that's all right, then. You have reason to worry.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Chris C-B wrote:
it doesn't matter how much you know, learn, or analize a situation, you will never actually know the truth.
Sure you will - open the box and look at the cat.
Chris C-B wrote:
The best position to take is that he is telling you something between an outright lie, and a truth that even he doesn't know, because he wasn't there and the word passed up to him through many layers of command.
My point was that Obama had the means to show a dead Osama to the world and instead invented Islamic burial at sea. That was his choice and his alone. Political leaders, by the way, love to use the chain of command as an excuse for the lies they tell. It is always some subordinate who is blamed. It has become quite clear that, with Obama, nothing is his fault.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
Sure you will - open the box and look at the cat.
For gawd's sake don't introduce quantum theory into this - we're surrounded with quite enough uncertainty as it is! :laugh: The burial at sea was the only option, unless you wanted a shrine created at his grave. It is also the only way to ensure that nobody figures out that OBL is really in a deep-freeze in the Pentagon. :laugh:
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Oakman wrote:
Sure you will - open the box and look at the cat.
For gawd's sake don't introduce quantum theory into this - we're surrounded with quite enough uncertainty as it is! :laugh: The burial at sea was the only option, unless you wanted a shrine created at his grave. It is also the only way to ensure that nobody figures out that OBL is really in a deep-freeze in the Pentagon. :laugh:
Chris C-B wrote:
It is also the only way to ensure that nobody figures out that OBL is really in a deep-freeze in the Pentagon.
I think he was bought out and now lives on a very nice NATO pension in Saskatchewan with 72 young women.
Chris C-B wrote:
For gawd's sake don't introduce quantum theory into this - we're surrounded with quite enough uncertainty as it is!
Sorry, God is an inveterate craps player. ;) What we do know is that a deliberate choice was made that Osama's death was to remain a mystery, and his remains supposedly destroyed. We do know that there are FEMA camps. We do know that the last two Presidents have shown a contempt for the Constitution that is astounding. We do know that the Administration is more afraid of returning vets than the Black Muslims or La Raza. Beyond that, anything you and I say is a theory and any theory that suggests that this isn't all coincidence can be labeled a conspiracy theory.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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My vote of 1 (I'll get downvoted myself probably). The article sounds like complete nonsense to me. I'm convinced that there are things "covered up" for the benefit of the few, but I doubt that even 5% if this article comes near the truth. The change in tone and extreme language building up near the end removes any objectivity IMHO. You never know of course and it was an amusing read.
V.
If it was amusing read, why did you 1-vote it?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Nations doing deals under the table for oil contracts? No doubt. The US declaring marshal law and sticking millions in concentration camps? Laughable and unlikely regardless of the party in power. But that's just me
_Josh_ wrote:
But that's just me
As the leading Australian expert on the U.S.?
_Josh_ wrote:
Laughable and unlikely regardless of the party in power.
Yep. We would never do anything like that - ask any Japanese-American, or Amerind.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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If it was amusing read, why did you 1-vote it?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
_Josh_ wrote:
But that's just me
As the leading Australian expert on the U.S.?
_Josh_ wrote:
Laughable and unlikely regardless of the party in power.
Yep. We would never do anything like that - ask any Japanese-American, or Amerind.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
I don't know about leading, top 1,000,000 possibly Makes you wonder though, what would a concentration camp need? Could be a good business opportunity. Pedal powered generators I reckon. Rows of people generating green energy as part of their environmental reeducation.
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If it was amusing read, why did you 1-vote it?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
because of this:
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I found this on the web this morning, and if it didn't sound plausible, I wouldn't post it here
My -1 does not mean I dislike you, just the article :) .
V.
But you said that you found it amusing. How can you dislike something that made you smile? :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I don't know about leading, top 1,000,000 possibly Makes you wonder though, what would a concentration camp need? Could be a good business opportunity. Pedal powered generators I reckon. Rows of people generating green energy as part of their environmental reeducation.
