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  • C Christian Graus

    It got there in the end. I do like Weven, it's way better than Vista. Having my XP drive with my code on it has caused issues, I don't have access to the document folders in XP, I have to reboot to XP. Also, I can't build anything without changing it so I have full access to the files. The security stuff is still a little nuts. But, it's pretty, and it works. Today, I will actually work on the project that has the build issues, so we'll see if going 64 bit and being able to access more RAM will fix that for me.....

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Henry Minute
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    Today, I will actually work on the project that has the build issues

    Best of luck with that.:thumbsup:

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      oh, grow a pair. i built my own 64 bit machine recently and installed win7 without problems. I've installed win7 about a dozen times now, on older hardware and newer without problem.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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      Henry Minute
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      I have grown more pairs (and discarded them to get better ones) than you have had hot dinners. Thanks for the advice though.

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      • C Christian Graus

        I finally moved to Windows 7 64 bit. As it took me a while, I felt I should keep automatic updates on. There seems to be a lot, every day. Last night, it did an update. This morning, my computer won't start. Awesome.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Michael Bergman
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I felt I should keep automatic updates on.

        There's your problem. I've been running Windows 7 64 bit for over a year and I will download the updates but not install them until I had a couple of hours to kill on the weekend in case something goes wrong, which has happened twice so far.

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        -- For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

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        • C Christian Graus

          I finally moved to Windows 7 64 bit. As it took me a while, I felt I should keep automatic updates on. There seems to be a lot, every day. Last night, it did an update. This morning, my computer won't start. Awesome.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          David Knechtges
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          Aha - that was the first mistake was letting windows install updates..... :laugh: Anyway, whenever I build a machine or VM, I install Windows, then I grab all the drivers I need, THEN I turn on and do Windows updates on custom until there are no more. Just keep doing it over and over and over again. Which is another stupid thing about Windows update - why can't I just tell it to run and keep running until it finds no more updates (i.e. past all reboots and rechecking after each batch of updates is installed)????

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          • H Henry Minute

            I ordered the last parts for my new computer earlier today so I shall shortly be doing an install of WevenJM. You are filling me with confidence. :-D

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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            Maximilien
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            I installed Windows 7 on a new machine, with no problem at all; I even rebuild the machine with a new motherboard (all other components stayed the same) and W7 continued working as expected (just had to re-activate/validate the OS).

            Watched code never compiles.

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            • M Maximilien

              I installed Windows 7 on a new machine, with no problem at all; I even rebuild the machine with a new motherboard (all other components stayed the same) and W7 continued working as expected (just had to re-activate/validate the OS).

              Watched code never compiles.

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              Henry Minute
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              Oh I know that. I have done the same myself, many times, although not with Weven. It's just that I don't know how wide Christians sphere of malfunctionality extends. :)

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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              • M Michael Bergman

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I felt I should keep automatic updates on.

                There's your problem. I've been running Windows 7 64 bit for over a year and I will download the updates but not install them until I had a couple of hours to kill on the weekend in case something goes wrong, which has happened twice so far.

                m.bergman

                -- For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

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                Christian Graus
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                I would normally do that. This OS went in about 5 days ago. I've just not turned it off yet, but in the first instance, I assumed I should get it up to date ( also in the first instance, it was virgin and XP still boots, so if it broke, I could have just started again ).

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • D David Knechtges

                  Aha - that was the first mistake was letting windows install updates..... :laugh: Anyway, whenever I build a machine or VM, I install Windows, then I grab all the drivers I need, THEN I turn on and do Windows updates on custom until there are no more. Just keep doing it over and over and over again. Which is another stupid thing about Windows update - why can't I just tell it to run and keep running until it finds no more updates (i.e. past all reboots and rechecking after each batch of updates is installed)????

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Yeah, the whole 'I have 9 updates', followed by 'wait, I found 4 more' is a bit stupid. On the other hand, I installed Boot Camp 3.0 ( Apple software ), and it updated to 3.1, which was 250 MB, and THEN told me I need 3.2, immediately. Another 150 MB. This counts to me, I do not have endless bandwidth.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    It got there in the end. I do like Weven, it's way better than Vista. Having my XP drive with my code on it has caused issues, I don't have access to the document folders in XP, I have to reboot to XP. Also, I can't build anything without changing it so I have full access to the files. The security stuff is still a little nuts. But, it's pretty, and it works. Today, I will actually work on the project that has the build issues, so we'll see if going 64 bit and being able to access more RAM will fix that for me.....

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Having my XP drive with my code on it has caused issues, I don't have access to the document folders in XP, I have to reboot to XP

                    You should just need to bash the paths with requests for full rights. By default your account can't snoop in any other accounts userspace (although with admin rights you should be able to add your self to the ACLs for the cost of a few UAC clicks).

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      I finally moved to Windows 7 64 bit. As it took me a while, I felt I should keep automatic updates on. There seems to be a lot, every day. Last night, it did an update. This morning, my computer won't start. Awesome.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I felt I should keep automatic updates on.

                      I thought you kept these off because Telestra raped you for the crime of using more than few hundred megabytes of bandwidth in any given month.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Well, all I installed was 'critical' updates, no driver updates. I have a Mac Pro, all the hardware in this thing is pretty decent, there's no $20 sound cards or anything.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        lewax00
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I have a Mac Pro, all the hardware in this thing is pretty decent, there's no $20 sound cards or anything.

                        Of course not, they'd charge you at least $100 for it, even if it was normally $20! :laugh: (sorry, couldn't resist) But in all seriousness, that doesn't rule out a hardware problem, even good hardware has a few lemons, and they aren't always immediately apparent. And since the software on the machine isn't likely to magically start working again, a hardware issue sounds more likely, especially during boot.

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          I finally moved to Windows 7 64 bit. As it took me a while, I felt I should keep automatic updates on. There seems to be a lot, every day. Last night, it did an update. This morning, my computer won't start. Awesome.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Rutvik Dave
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                          Are you using Windows 7 on your Mac ? because I always update Windows on every Tuesday and never had any problems. I am thinking it's the bootcamp causing the problem, might be some driver issues...

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            I finally moved to Windows 7 64 bit. As it took me a while, I felt I should keep automatic updates on. There seems to be a lot, every day. Last night, it did an update. This morning, my computer won't start. Awesome.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            S Houghtelin
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                            It's karma for all the "Why are you still using VB?" answers in Q&A. :laugh:

                            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                            • D Dan Neely

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              I felt I should keep automatic updates on.

                              I thought you kept these off because Telestra raped you for the crime of using more than few hundred megabytes of bandwidth in any given month.

                              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                              Christian Graus
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                              They shape me now instead of charging me extortional rates.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              • R Rutvik Dave

                                Are you using Windows 7 on your Mac ? because I always update Windows on every Tuesday and never had any problems. I am thinking it's the bootcamp causing the problem, might be some driver issues...

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Well, I guess it's always easy to blame that, but, Boot Camp is pretty transparent. Once I get to the 'Windows is loading' screen, as I did, the computer has no idea that it's running under Bootcamp, or on a Mac.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  It's karma for all the "Why are you still using VB?" answers in Q&A. :laugh:

                                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  I'm being rewarded for helping people overcome obsolescence ?

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    I finally moved to Windows 7 64 bit. As it took me a while, I felt I should keep automatic updates on. There seems to be a lot, every day. Last night, it did an update. This morning, my computer won't start. Awesome.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    Why is it only you? I have a lot of machines I need to worry about and not a single one of them has failed on a Windows update. Everything from a dodgy freebie laptop that barely boots in under 30 mins to my main beast dev machine (plus our 2008 R2 servers which are close enough) Then again - you seem to have no problems with Mac OS yet it is is the scourge for me.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      Installing it is easy. However, it would not be the first OS where a Microsoft update killed it completely, XP SP3 did that to me.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      However, it would not be the first OS where a Microsoft update killed it completely

                                      Well that is true, the Win7 SP1 update killed a machine of mine. And many others "out there" which I found out after I searched for a solution online. Thanks for reminding me... OK, I'm embarrassed now...

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                      • H Henry Minute

                                        I have grown more pairs (and discarded them to get better ones) than you have had hot dinners. Thanks for the advice though.

                                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        Hope you realize I was just kidding... Anyway, I seriously doubt you'll have much trouble installing win7. But, if you have win7 win SP1 slip streamed, that's what I'd install. Installing the SP1 update from Windows Update has been known to be a problem, but maybe not on a fresh install. Good luck.

                                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Why is it only you? I have a lot of machines I need to worry about and not a single one of them has failed on a Windows update. Everything from a dodgy freebie laptop that barely boots in under 30 mins to my main beast dev machine (plus our 2008 R2 servers which are close enough) Then again - you seem to have no problems with Mac OS yet it is is the scourge for me.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          In the past, I'd assume it was something else I installed, like music software, but this machine only has MS stuff on it, and the install is a week old. I don't know. I am far from an Apple fanboy, but OSX has never failed on me like Windows seems to love to do.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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