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    Saul Johnson
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    If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

    1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

    2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

    3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

    4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

    5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

    While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

    A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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    • S Saul Johnson

      If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

      1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

      2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

      3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

      4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

      5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

      While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

      A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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      Mike Hankey
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      During my career as a programmer I've probably had all of these types at one time or another; 1) I think I've got an old Fortran compiler at home ya wanna try it? 2) I'm color blind, I'll need you to stand there for the next 2 days until I get this UI completed. 3) Sure I can have that for you in 3 weeks, but unfortunately I just gave my 2 weeks notice. 4) My phone has a button on the side that says "OFF". 5) My vacation starts tomorrow you'll have to give this project to DD.

      Now that food has replaced sex in my life, I can't even get into my own pants.

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      • S Saul Johnson

        If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

        1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

        2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

        3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

        4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

        5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

        While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

        A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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        Anthony Mushrow
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        1 or 2, at least they know what they want.

        -SK Genius

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        • S Saul Johnson

          If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

          1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

          2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

          3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

          4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

          5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

          While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

          A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          SixOfTheClock wrote:

          The client that hands you a sheet of paper

          In the early 90s I was given an A4 report, it was an invoice summary, an told I was to reproduce that. 4 years later they had a complete construction costing and support system tied into an accounting package. Don't knock the 1 page spec.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          • S Saul Johnson

            If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

            1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

            2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

            3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

            4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

            5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

            While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

            A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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            _Damian S_
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            SixOfTheClock wrote:

            The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

            I'd take this one, then charge by the hour!!

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            • S Saul Johnson

              If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

              1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

              2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

              3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

              4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

              5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

              While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

              A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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              Christian Graus
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              #3 sounds like my boss. I get close to #4 and #5 at times, too. I'd take #1, I would ask him to tell me which one to remove, then hit compile and ask if he has any other bright ideas.

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              • S Saul Johnson

                If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

                1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

                2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

                3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

                4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

                5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

                While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

                A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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                Steve Wellens
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                I would pick option #6 Take a Golf Sabbatical!

                Steve Wellens

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                • A Anthony Mushrow

                  1 or 2, at least they know what they want.

                  -SK Genius

                  Vehicle Simulation Demo - New and Improved!

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                  Rage
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                  Absolutely. On the other hand, when you are not able to handle requirement management, do not come and whine because the client wants his 1000th modification. Acceptance criteria, that's the key !

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                  • S Saul Johnson

                    If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

                    1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

                    2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

                    3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

                    4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

                    5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

                    While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

                    A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Definitely not option 5: too short a timescale to get any serious by-the-hour charging done...

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                    • S Saul Johnson

                      If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

                      1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

                      2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

                      3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

                      4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

                      5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

                      While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

                      A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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                      crocks256
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                      Number 2 is my boss.. LOL and it drives me up the wall!! As it shows little faith in my abilities to design a decent UI.

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                      • S Saul Johnson

                        If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

                        1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

                        2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

                        3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

                        4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

                        5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

                        While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

                        A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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                        CalvinHobbies
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                        The first one would be amusing, but would show the error of the school of thought ( after all, this isn't Fortran, THIS IS SPARTAAAAA!!!) . number 2 is web dev like ( least that what it reminds me of) and I'd be worse then them for the "little to the left" and the color. 3 isn't a med sized project, would have to sit with the longer. number 5, I'd first make sure to let him know that there may need more time, but the goal is by the weekend. anything after that is a sellable "feature" to be bargin'd / haggled at the time of "need" (hey he made the time limit). annnd the drum roll for number 4... drdrdrdrrrrrrrr PING! NUMBER 4 ; my best bet as, to the annoyance of my wonderful loving wife, If one finds me up at 5am, means I haven't slept yet and am likely still programming, gaming, or screwing around with web page boarders, colors, padding, and margins to one day create my own padded room (rocks back and forth, 5px 5px 5px 5px; )...

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                        • S Saul Johnson

                          If you were doing freelance programming work and had to choose your next client for a medium-term project, would you pick:

                          1. The client that regularly looks at your C++ source code and points out your 'overuse' of semicolons while often stating aloud that he used to program in Fortran back in '86 and could do your job much better than you if only he had the time.

                          2. The client that stands over your shoulder and says things like 'A little to the left' and 'I think that button needs to be bluer'.

                          3. The client that hands you a sheet of paper saying something like 'A software package that will take our company to the position of industry leader in 3D rendering solutions.' and calls it a project spec, failing to give any useful input whatsoever.

                          4. The client that calls you at 3:00am and asks how the project is going.

                          5. The client that wants it done by next weekend.

                          While I realise none of these are ideal choices, imagine that you're depending on the one you choose for your next pay-check and all are offering a similar sum of money for a completed project. Violence is not an option. Which would you choose?

                          A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.

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                          wizardzz
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                          #2

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