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  • D Distind

    Oakman wrote:

    Stupidity is a condition: ignorance is a choice and one that some people make, over and over again, but nonetheless, which is always correctable.

    Which brings us right back to the fact this this a coloring book. Now, of all things to explain to a child 9/11 is going to be one of the more difficult, as any instance of 'Yes there are people who want to kill you for often ill defined reasons' sits poorly with... pretty much everyone, let alone children. I was a teen when it happened, and honestly watched in utter disbelief as it did. Having gone through that I have to question, who with two functioning brain cells would present this portion of history to children through a god damn coloring book? I'm thinking they may have a condition, and a history of bad choices.

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    Quite, just why the hell does a three year old need to know this shit? Isn't life shitty enough without polluting the mind of an innocent with all the vile filth in the world? How about 'Nazi concentration camp colouring' books? That would be great, they can do the flames coming out of the ovens in all kinds of reds and oranges. Jesus Christ, enough is enough.

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    • O Oakman

      Again, I ask if this book is being forced on any family against its will. If so, we need to fight it. If not, we need to remember that this country guarantees free speech. If it is being distributed by a school or other governmental agency, it needs to stop.

      Distind wrote:

      who with two functioning brain cells would present this portion of history to children through a god damn coloring book?

      People who don't think they need your permission to publish?

      “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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      IT IS FUCKING TASTELESS! Regardless of whether it is imposed or not. There are certain rules in society you know that not all members of society wish to follow, hence the existence of extreme right hate groups. Thats the problem with democracy, with freedom, you give power to the stupid, selfish, and greedy. They really should be under some measure of controll you know.

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        It is tasteless in my opinion. By the time I would feel comfortable exposing my children to that kind of hatred I would think they'll be past colouring books.

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        Exactly. Could you imagine a 'Nazi concentration camp' colouring book? How sick would that be? Yet equally justified if a 9/11 is.

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        • S Slacker007

          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Typical Americanism!

          Why am I not surprised that "God" has to be in the book as well. My country still associates Freedom with God.

          Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)

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          Slacker007 wrote:

          My country still associates Freedom with God

          It is hard to judge the US, so much of it seems built on such fundamentalism, and yet has such freedom at the same time.

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          • I Ian Shlasko

            Doesn't necessarily mean a permanent move... Could go expat for a few years, until the country comes to its senses. The only trick is finding a programming job in Toronto.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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            Perhaps you should learn French? Won't this give you a better chance in Canada? Interestingly Canada is one of the countries I would consider emigrating to, if only it wasn't so damn cold for so long.

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              Perhaps you should learn French? Won't this give you a better chance in Canada? Interestingly Canada is one of the countries I would consider emigrating to, if only it wasn't so damn cold for so long.

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              Ian Shlasko
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              Perhaps if I moved to Quebec, that would make sense... But the rest of Canada speaks primarily English.

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
              Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                Perhaps if I moved to Quebec, that would make sense... But the rest of Canada speaks primarily English.

                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                Yeah. I have a lot of relatives in canada, cousins on both side of the familly. They are all in Vancouver I believe, which is quite nice I hear, though Quebec is the most historic looking.

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                • L Lost User

                  Oakman wrote:

                  because the U.S. has a free press and free speech is guaranteed by the law

                  And racial hatred speaches are prohibited by law, I hope. :) I would hope this book doesnt cross the line, but fomr the description it looks like it might do. Did we find the need to create colouring books of Hitler and the Nazis, after they were defeated, in order to show young kids just how bad they were, perhaps with picture of emaciated jews behind barbed wires whose uniforms coulld be coloured in in nice blue and white stripes? Of course not. And secondly just why do kids of an age who use colouring books need to be exposed to this kind of horror? Truct is one thing, but do you want your 3 year old girl learning about all the vile filth in the world? I dont.

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                  Eric_V wrote:

                  And secondly just why do kids of an age who use colouring books need to be exposed to this kind of horror?

                  Funnily enough, I have a couple of colouring books intended for medical students.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Oakman wrote:

                    because the U.S. has a free press and free speech is guaranteed by the law

                    And racial hatred speaches are prohibited by law, I hope. :) I would hope this book doesnt cross the line, but fomr the description it looks like it might do. Did we find the need to create colouring books of Hitler and the Nazis, after they were defeated, in order to show young kids just how bad they were, perhaps with picture of emaciated jews behind barbed wires whose uniforms coulld be coloured in in nice blue and white stripes? Of course not. And secondly just why do kids of an age who use colouring books need to be exposed to this kind of horror? Truct is one thing, but do you want your 3 year old girl learning about all the vile filth in the world? I dont.

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                    Which part of "freedom of speech" don't you understand, troll?

                    “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                    • L Lost User

                      IT IS FUCKING TASTELESS! Regardless of whether it is imposed or not. There are certain rules in society you know that not all members of society wish to follow, hence the existence of extreme right hate groups. Thats the problem with democracy, with freedom, you give power to the stupid, selfish, and greedy. They really should be under some measure of controll you know.

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                      Eric_V wrote:

                      hence the existence of extreme right hate groups.

                      As opposed to extreme left hate groups who are always law-abiding citizens?

                      Eric_V wrote:

                      They really should be under some measure of controll you know.

                      No, I don't know. I do know that personal freedom is something viewed with suspicion by a number of arrogant little twirps. Of course you think that you personally should be in charge of deciding what should be read, published, and thought, but it's obvious to you that there are so many sheep out there that need your guidance and control. Pfaugh!

                      “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        because the U.S. has a free press and free speech is guaranteed by the law

                        And racial hatred speaches are prohibited by law, I hope. :) I would hope this book doesnt cross the line, but fomr the description it looks like it might do. Did we find the need to create colouring books of Hitler and the Nazis, after they were defeated, in order to show young kids just how bad they were, perhaps with picture of emaciated jews behind barbed wires whose uniforms coulld be coloured in in nice blue and white stripes? Of course not. And secondly just why do kids of an age who use colouring books need to be exposed to this kind of horror? Truct is one thing, but do you want your 3 year old girl learning about all the vile filth in the world? I dont.

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                        You should tell Oakman to shut the fuck up.

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                        • O Oakman

                          Which part of "freedom of speech" don't you understand, troll?

                          “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                          Oakman wrote:

                          Which part of "freedom of speech" don't you understand

                          The part that allows racial hate speeches.

                          Oakman wrote:

                          troll?

                          Nah, sorry, I am actually interested in what I write, and the discusion that might arise.

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            Which part of "freedom of speech" don't you understand

                            The part that allows racial hate speeches.

                            Oakman wrote:

                            troll?

                            Nah, sorry, I am actually interested in what I write, and the discusion that might arise.

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                            Eric_V wrote:

                            Nah, sorry, I am actually interested in what I write, and the discusion that might arise.

                            That's not the definition of troll, though it is one that is often offered up by trolls as a defense of their posting of remarks designed to piss people off. Go away, fat_boy. You're a loser.

                            “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                            • O Oakman

                              Eric_V wrote:

                              Nah, sorry, I am actually interested in what I write, and the discusion that might arise.

                              That's not the definition of troll, though it is one that is often offered up by trolls as a defense of their posting of remarks designed to piss people off. Go away, fat_boy. You're a loser.

                              “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                              Oakman wrote:

                              Go away, fat_boy. You're a loser.

                              Oh, dont like me anymore then? Oh well, I shant lose any sleep obver it. :)

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                              • S soap brain

                                You should tell Oakman to shut the fuck up.

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                                He now thinks I am a pervert. Of course, he cant distinguish humour from reality. :)

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                                  He now thinks I am a pervert. Of course, he cant distinguish humour from reality. :)

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                                  soap brain
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                                  Oakman is an insufferable busybody. Soapbox 1.0 has been emptying since it turned into the cult of Oakman, which is why he's been increasingly spewing his narcissism into Soapbox 2.0.

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                                  • S soap brain

                                    Oakman is an insufferable busybody. Soapbox 1.0 has been emptying since it turned into the cult of Oakman, which is why he's been increasingly spewing his narcissism into Soapbox 2.0.

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                                    Oh, that explains it. His right wing love nest has emptied has it?

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                                      Oh, that explains it. His right wing love nest has emptied has it?

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                                      Probably the same reason all of his wives left him.

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        Again, I ask if this book is being forced on any family against its will. If so, we need to fight it. If not, we need to remember that this country guarantees free speech. If it is being distributed by a school or other governmental agency, it needs to stop.

                                        Distind wrote:

                                        who with two functioning brain cells would present this portion of history to children through a god damn coloring book?

                                        People who don't think they need your permission to publish?

                                        “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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                                        I'll admit, I was largely angry at this because I thought it(a fairly crappy coloring book) was about as low as you could get exploiting 9/11. Then the last few weeks of commercials started, and I've seen this[^] and I think I've simply stopped caring. If the nation at large is going to exploit, manipulate and generally piss on in any way that gives them a gain monetary or political, I honestly don't think I care any more. Probably the largest event to occur in the nation since I was born, and the sheer exploitation and misrepresentation of it has left me not caring about it.

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                                        • D Distind

                                          I'll admit, I was largely angry at this because I thought it(a fairly crappy coloring book) was about as low as you could get exploiting 9/11. Then the last few weeks of commercials started, and I've seen this[^] and I think I've simply stopped caring. If the nation at large is going to exploit, manipulate and generally piss on in any way that gives them a gain monetary or political, I honestly don't think I care any more. Probably the largest event to occur in the nation since I was born, and the sheer exploitation and misrepresentation of it has left me not caring about it.

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                                          Oakman
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                                          Why tell me? Did you mistake me for someone who also cannot separate the grain from the chaff?

                                          “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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