Americans and politics
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You know it often strikes me just how much Americans care about politics; it is discussed a lot on CP. Personally, as a cynical European, I just don't give a toss really. I don't think I ever voted more than once because whoever you vote for, you still get the same corrupt wankers in govt. and nothing much chamges for the man in the street.
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yeah, scrap govt. all it is there for is changing laws. and replace it with internet voting. say someone wants a new law, he produces an srgument, in the form of a documentart, shows it on tv, the internet, etc, and those interested vote. simple, fair, cheap
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So what happens when 4chan passes an obscure law banning geology? Or when the number of potential laws numbers in the hundreds of thousands, and very disturbing laws start passing with only one vote because the sheer volume meant that the only person to notice it was the person who made it?
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Eric_V wrote:
simple, fair, cheap
And utterly stupid.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Because there is more sex & scandal in their politics than they're allowed to show on tv
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So what happens when 4chan passes an obscure law banning geology? Or when the number of potential laws numbers in the hundreds of thousands, and very disturbing laws start passing with only one vote because the sheer volume meant that the only person to notice it was the person who made it?
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_Josh_ wrote:
Because there is more sex & scandal in their politics than they're allowed to show on tv
Unlike Oz, where they don't have sex? ;)
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Your parents should have warned you about that.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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_Josh_ wrote:
Because there is more sex & scandal in their politics than they're allowed to show on tv
Unlike Oz, where they don't have sex? ;)
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Thankfully the media here tends to ignore pollys personal life to a much larger degree than either the US or the UK. It is unlikely a polly would be sacked for having a mistress or an escort for instance. Paying for the hooker with the govt CC on the other hand is frowned upon.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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OK, so how about a pre vote qualifier, ie, a bill needs 1000 signatures before it goes to an internet vote?
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Eric_V wrote:
OK, so how about a pre vote qualifier, ie, a bill needs 1000 signatures before it goes to an internet vote?
So 1000 people have to vote for it before anybody can vote for it?
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Eric_V wrote:
simple, fair, cheap
And utterly stupid.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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He was a bright guy who told us that he wants duels to be legal again. :) Edit: Typo
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modified on Friday, September 2, 2011 6:24 PM
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Eric_V wrote:
OK, so how about a pre vote qualifier, ie, a bill needs 1000 signatures before it goes to an internet vote?
So 1000 people have to vote for it before anybody can vote for it?
If you want to introduce a new loaw today you can raise a petittion, get a few thousand signatures and take it to the prime minister for it to be raised in the house of commons. I am merely suggesting extending that to the entire country, and taking out the house of lords, commons, and the queen. :) Lets face it, traditional politics was based against a backdrop of the 15th century. It is just not relevant today.
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Thankfully the media here tends to ignore pollys personal life to a much larger degree than either the US or the UK. It is unlikely a polly would be sacked for having a mistress or an escort for instance. Paying for the hooker with the govt CC on the other hand is frowned upon.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Thankfully the media here tends to ignore pollys personal life
Yes, I have noticed how your primary media export, Sir Rupert Murdoch, soars high above the tabloid mentality. :rolleyes: I suspect that's there;s less governmental sex scandal down under simply because our leaders have more of a propensity for getting caught in flagrante delicto than yours. Although you and Josh are far more knowledgeable about Oz than I'll ever hope to be, I don't get the impression than your elected leaders have decided that they are part of the new aristocracy and thus above the laws they make and the morality they insist others live by.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Thankfully the media here tends to ignore pollys personal life
Yes, I have noticed how your primary media export, Sir Rupert Murdoch, soars high above the tabloid mentality. :rolleyes: I suspect that's there;s less governmental sex scandal down under simply because our leaders have more of a propensity for getting caught in flagrante delicto than yours. Although you and Josh are far more knowledgeable about Oz than I'll ever hope to be, I don't get the impression than your elected leaders have decided that they are part of the new aristocracy and thus above the laws they make and the morality they insist others live by.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
Yes, I have noticed how your primary media export, Sir Rupert Murdoch
Export being the operative word
Oakman wrote:
elected leaders have decided that they are part of the new aristocracy and thus above the laws
I don't think this has happenned yet, certainly some of the business (mining) leaders are pushing towards the oligarch model but they do keep it low profile, mostly. The pollies tend to be more vulnerable (less of a monetary buffer b/c they do not need to be extroardinarliy wealthy before they can go for high office) and therefore less blatant in their theivery.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Oakman wrote:
Yes, I have noticed how your primary media export, Sir Rupert Murdoch
Export being the operative word
Oakman wrote:
elected leaders have decided that they are part of the new aristocracy and thus above the laws
I don't think this has happenned yet, certainly some of the business (mining) leaders are pushing towards the oligarch model but they do keep it low profile, mostly. The pollies tend to be more vulnerable (less of a monetary buffer b/c they do not need to be extroardinarliy wealthy before they can go for high office) and therefore less blatant in their theivery.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH