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  • L Larry Antram

    http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".

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    'Look at meeee!', he says. Larry Antram wrote: Why is anything related to this freak publicized at all? I think the phrase 'full of sh*t' might have been invented just for him. He must have spent at least a week on his philosopy - a mish mash of Catholism and UFO's. Old mother hubbard could kick his arse. Or sue him. Ryan

    Computers allow you to make more mistakes than any other invention, with the possible exception of handguns and tequila.

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    • L Larry Antram

      http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".

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      She has it with the Japanese, doesn't she? Larry Antram wrote: "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more... could we all line up, please" Well, I'm not her, but I'm reading something different into it: Put 9/11 it into proportions... much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, and it's mostly not because they are lazy bums. Insofar, it might be questioned why the death of 3000 has so much impact on world politics - just because they are citizens of a particluar state. Uh, I know I get flamed for this again.


      As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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        She has it with the Japanese, doesn't she? Larry Antram wrote: "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more... could we all line up, please" Well, I'm not her, but I'm reading something different into it: Put 9/11 it into proportions... much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, and it's mostly not because they are lazy bums. Insofar, it might be questioned why the death of 3000 has so much impact on world politics - just because they are citizens of a particluar state. Uh, I know I get flamed for this again.


        As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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        peterchen wrote: much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, But do those people have global television coverage of their deaths? peterchen wrote: much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, Are those people good consumers ? peterchen wrote: much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger What are their names ? ( At least the people at the WTC had their names recorded !! ) Regardz Colin J Davies

        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

        You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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          peterchen wrote: much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, But do those people have global television coverage of their deaths? peterchen wrote: much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, Are those people good consumers ? peterchen wrote: much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger What are their names ? ( At least the people at the WTC had their names recorded !! ) Regardz Colin J Davies

          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

          You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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          Colin Davies wrote: Are those people good consumers ? You are right, I should be ashamed of my thoughts :blush: ;)


          As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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          • L Larry Antram

            http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".

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            Do not worry, most of the members are Japanese. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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            • L Larry Antram

              http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".

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              There you go, trying to apply logic to someone like that.......... :wtf: The tigress is here :-D

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              • L Larry Antram

                http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".

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                Larry Antram wrote: _http://www.rael.org/\[^\]_ I just read the majority of the philosophy behind this religion, and I'm glad I did. It promotes good principles and values and, if it caught on, would do a much better job than the current big three religions have been doing. Quite a refreshingly positive view on the world. Believing his stated history clashes with my evolutionist viewpoint but is an interesting read nonetheless. This concludes my reaction. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) The Code Project - Orange makes the art grow fonder

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                • L Larry Antram

                  http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".

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                  The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                    Larry Antram wrote: _http://www.rael.org/\[^\]_ I just read the majority of the philosophy behind this religion, and I'm glad I did. It promotes good principles and values and, if it caught on, would do a much better job than the current big three religions have been doing. Quite a refreshingly positive view on the world. Believing his stated history clashes with my evolutionist viewpoint but is an interesting read nonetheless. This concludes my reaction. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) The Code Project - Orange makes the art grow fonder

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                    That is how they sucker you in. On the surface it all sounds great. But it doesn't take much to put a candy coating on a nut. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                      She has it with the Japanese, doesn't she? Larry Antram wrote: "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more... could we all line up, please" Well, I'm not her, but I'm reading something different into it: Put 9/11 it into proportions... much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, and it's mostly not because they are lazy bums. Insofar, it might be questioned why the death of 3000 has so much impact on world politics - just because they are citizens of a particluar state. Uh, I know I get flamed for this again.


                      As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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                      Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message. It serves as a rallying cry for Americans to become less apathetic and more aware of the evil in the world.

                      Jason Henderson
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                      • T Tim Smith

                        The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                        3,4 and 5 do work, but some people take them out of context. I had really be hip and knee joint problems earlier in the year (ended up in a wheelchair at one point) and went to a Reiki healer.Basically, I hobbled in and an hour later walked out - cost £10 ($15) for the session. I am an engineer and look first at wether something works, then I will sort out the science later. Don't be misled by the flim flam artists, some of this is genuine despite the rest. And I was out on Saturday night for the first time in 5-6 months, thanks in part to that. Elaine (bouncy fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D

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                        • T Tim Smith

                          That is how they sucker you in. On the surface it all sounds great. But it doesn't take much to put a candy coating on a nut. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                          Lost User
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                          They put the spin on a little at a time, hoping you don't notice, and gloss over the spin each time. PS I voted you a 5 there. The tigress is here :-D

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                            3,4 and 5 do work, but some people take them out of context. I had really be hip and knee joint problems earlier in the year (ended up in a wheelchair at one point) and went to a Reiki healer.Basically, I hobbled in and an hour later walked out - cost £10 ($15) for the session. I am an engineer and look first at wether something works, then I will sort out the science later. Don't be misled by the flim flam artists, some of this is genuine despite the rest. And I was out on Saturday night for the first time in 5-6 months, thanks in part to that. Elaine (bouncy fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D

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                            Um, there has been no scientific proof that 3, 4 or 5 work beyond just placebo. Especially 5 which has been tested again and again and again and fails. 4 is a strange beast. The more conservative uses might actually do something. However, curing diseases based on spine position holds no scientific water. 3 keeps coming in and out of vogue and also does little more than placebo. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                              She has it with the Japanese, doesn't she? Larry Antram wrote: "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more... could we all line up, please" Well, I'm not her, but I'm reading something different into it: Put 9/11 it into proportions... much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, and it's mostly not because they are lazy bums. Insofar, it might be questioned why the death of 3000 has so much impact on world politics - just because they are citizens of a particluar state. Uh, I know I get flamed for this again.


                              As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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                              peterchen wrote: more than 3000 people die each day of hunger Of those 3000, none live in the US because of Freedom and Capitalism. The US is going to be a target of these countries that don't even have flushable toilets. Nothing but envy! They don't even consider that the US sends out more (free) food to these countries than anyone else ever! Seems they can't learn from dogs....don't bite the hand that feeds you! ed

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                                Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message. It serves as a rallying cry for Americans to become less apathetic and more aware of the evil in the world.

                                Jason Henderson
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                                peterchen
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                                :sigh: Jason Henderson wrote: Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message noone doubts that. At least, not me. the rest is nothing but minting an event into a reason to promote certain political actions. "become .. more aware of the evil in the world" sorry, but that makes me sick (as in: pre-stage to barf) Still, 24.000 are estimated to die of hunger each day. These are about 11 million since some idiot wanted to send a message.


                                As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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                                  :sigh: Jason Henderson wrote: Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message noone doubts that. At least, not me. the rest is nothing but minting an event into a reason to promote certain political actions. "become .. more aware of the evil in the world" sorry, but that makes me sick (as in: pre-stage to barf) Still, 24.000 are estimated to die of hunger each day. These are about 11 million since some idiot wanted to send a message.


                                  As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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                                  the deaths were preventable, most you are speaking of are not or happen everyday and we get used to them (unfortunately).

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                                    Um, there has been no scientific proof that 3, 4 or 5 work beyond just placebo. Especially 5 which has been tested again and again and again and fails. 4 is a strange beast. The more conservative uses might actually do something. However, curing diseases based on spine position holds no scientific water. 3 keeps coming in and out of vogue and also does little more than placebo. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                    #3 was actually investigated by America's National Institutes of Health (US Dept. of Health and Human Services) and found effective in some cases and safe to be practiced. It is practiced in many states and covered by many insurances. It also being taught by many medical schools throughout the world and US. Some research being conducted and that came up with actual data displaying positive effects of acupuncture. P.S. All the above info came up via quick search thru google.

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                                      peterchen wrote: more than 3000 people die each day of hunger Of those 3000, none live in the US because of Freedom and Capitalism. The US is going to be a target of these countries that don't even have flushable toilets. Nothing but envy! They don't even consider that the US sends out more (free) food to these countries than anyone else ever! Seems they can't learn from dogs....don't bite the hand that feeds you! ed

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                                      a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)


                                      As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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                                        The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                        1. well, in case of an MRT ;) 3) How do you know? A good friend of mine does, and it works nice, esp. on "uncurable" things like hay fever 6) Maybe the Egyptians were Aliens? How would you know, other than Occam's Razor? 7) NO, NOW THAT IS TRUE! I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF! :cool:

                                        As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him.  [sighist]

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                                          Larry Antram wrote: Why is anything related to this freak publicized at all? These days the best way to grab attention is to say something anti-US, that way you are sure to get more press than if you were sexually abused by MJ or if you married Liz Taylor. Nish


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                                          True. But, the idea is defining the rules of the game, ..er.. war :-D. In domestic law, the law almost always go by precedent. If something is deemed OK for one, it is OK for all. If a judge rules today that according to current laws, theft is legal - then, tomorrow another defence lawyer will argue another theft case on this precedent, and will win. The argument about US actions should be seen in this context. Whatever US, Russia, China etc. does will get upheld in UN (by virtue of their veto powers), and thereby becomes the international law by precedent. When I opposed US foreign policies, what I meant is this. Another country, say China, saying that "ok, you set the precedent, we follow". At that point, China being a nuclear power with global delivery systems, the issue becomes complex. There are a lot of UN resolutions that are not even given any value: UN resolution on Kashmir, numerous resolutions on Palestine, the absence of a resolution on the no-fly zones. The UN resolutions don't hold any value, unless all of them are treated alike. Hence my arguments: When you are a trend-setter and leader, show leadership, not pettiness. ... and beware of the precedents you set. That is what the world will go by, atleast in the immediate future. All these matter if and only if, we all want some kind of international law, rather than "survival of the mighty". Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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