Human Clone Freak Speaks
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http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".
Larry Antram wrote: _http://www.rael.org/\[^\]_ I just read the majority of the philosophy behind this religion, and I'm glad I did. It promotes good principles and values and, if it caught on, would do a much better job than the current big three religions have been doing. Quite a refreshingly positive view on the world. Believing his stated history clashes with my evolutionist viewpoint but is an interesting read nonetheless. This concludes my reaction. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) The Code Project - Orange makes the art grow fonder
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http://www.clonaid.com[^] http://www.rael.org/[^] I feel all warm and fuzzy over these quotes from "Rael" himself (which I only noticed from a quick visit to his rael.org site): "It is very funny to see that the country which shouts and cries out loud that terrorism must be stopped, the United States of America, is the country responsible for the worse terrorist acts in the history of humanity, because the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing were not military targets, they were civilian targets. It was 100% terrorism, we have to remember that." and... "It is so fashionable today to say "Ooh it is terrible, 3,000 people died in New York". It is very strange that this happened in the country which killed so many Japanese a long time ago. There is a huge hypocrisy in the American people to say "Ooh it is terrible what happened in New York" but they forget what they did in Hiroshima." Nice. I wasn't even born near WWII but I guess I'm supposed to go... "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more".
The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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Larry Antram wrote: _http://www.rael.org/\[^\]_ I just read the majority of the philosophy behind this religion, and I'm glad I did. It promotes good principles and values and, if it caught on, would do a much better job than the current big three religions have been doing. Quite a refreshingly positive view on the world. Believing his stated history clashes with my evolutionist viewpoint but is an interesting read nonetheless. This concludes my reaction. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) The Code Project - Orange makes the art grow fonder
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She has it with the Japanese, doesn't she? Larry Antram wrote: "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more... could we all line up, please" Well, I'm not her, but I'm reading something different into it: Put 9/11 it into proportions... much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, and it's mostly not because they are lazy bums. Insofar, it might be questioned why the death of 3000 has so much impact on world politics - just because they are citizens of a particluar state. Uh, I know I get flamed for this again.
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message. It serves as a rallying cry for Americans to become less apathetic and more aware of the evil in the world.
Jason Henderson
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The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
3,4 and 5 do work, but some people take them out of context. I had really be hip and knee joint problems earlier in the year (ended up in a wheelchair at one point) and went to a Reiki healer.Basically, I hobbled in and an hour later walked out - cost £10 ($15) for the session. I am an engineer and look first at wether something works, then I will sort out the science later. Don't be misled by the flim flam artists, some of this is genuine despite the rest. And I was out on Saturday night for the first time in 5-6 months, thanks in part to that. Elaine (bouncy fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
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That is how they sucker you in. On the surface it all sounds great. But it doesn't take much to put a candy coating on a nut. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
They put the spin on a little at a time, hoping you don't notice, and gloss over the spin each time. PS I voted you a 5 there. The tigress is here :-D
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3,4 and 5 do work, but some people take them out of context. I had really be hip and knee joint problems earlier in the year (ended up in a wheelchair at one point) and went to a Reiki healer.Basically, I hobbled in and an hour later walked out - cost £10 ($15) for the session. I am an engineer and look first at wether something works, then I will sort out the science later. Don't be misled by the flim flam artists, some of this is genuine despite the rest. And I was out on Saturday night for the first time in 5-6 months, thanks in part to that. Elaine (bouncy fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
Um, there has been no scientific proof that 3, 4 or 5 work beyond just placebo. Especially 5 which has been tested again and again and again and fails. 4 is a strange beast. The more conservative uses might actually do something. However, curing diseases based on spine position holds no scientific water. 3 keeps coming in and out of vogue and also does little more than placebo. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
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She has it with the Japanese, doesn't she? Larry Antram wrote: "Oh gee, oh well... I guess 911 was OK since we deserve even more... could we all line up, please" Well, I'm not her, but I'm reading something different into it: Put 9/11 it into proportions... much more than 3000 people die each day of hunger, and it's mostly not because they are lazy bums. Insofar, it might be questioned why the death of 3000 has so much impact on world politics - just because they are citizens of a particluar state. Uh, I know I get flamed for this again.
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
peterchen wrote: more than 3000 people die each day of hunger Of those 3000, none live in the US because of Freedom and Capitalism. The US is going to be a target of these countries that don't even have flushable toilets. Nothing but envy! They don't even consider that the US sends out more (free) food to these countries than anyone else ever! Seems they can't learn from dogs....don't bite the hand that feeds you! ed
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Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message. It serves as a rallying cry for Americans to become less apathetic and more aware of the evil in the world.
Jason Henderson
start page ; articles henderson is coming henderson is an opponent's worst nightmare * googlism *:sigh: Jason Henderson wrote: Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message noone doubts that. At least, not me. the rest is nothing but minting an event into a reason to promote certain political actions. "become .. more aware of the evil in the world" sorry, but that makes me sick (as in: pre-stage to barf) Still, 24.000 are estimated to die of hunger each day. These are about 11 million since some idiot wanted to send a message.
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
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:sigh: Jason Henderson wrote: Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message noone doubts that. At least, not me. the rest is nothing but minting an event into a reason to promote certain political actions. "become .. more aware of the evil in the world" sorry, but that makes me sick (as in: pre-stage to barf) Still, 24.000 are estimated to die of hunger each day. These are about 11 million since some idiot wanted to send a message.
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
the deaths were preventable, most you are speaking of are not or happen everyday and we get used to them (unfortunately).
Jason Henderson
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Um, there has been no scientific proof that 3, 4 or 5 work beyond just placebo. Especially 5 which has been tested again and again and again and fails. 4 is a strange beast. The more conservative uses might actually do something. However, curing diseases based on spine position holds no scientific water. 3 keeps coming in and out of vogue and also does little more than placebo. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
#3 was actually investigated by America's National Institutes of Health (US Dept. of Health and Human Services) and found effective in some cases and safe to be practiced. It is practiced in many states and covered by many insurances. It also being taught by many medical schools throughout the world and US. Some research being conducted and that came up with actual data displaying positive effects of acupuncture. P.S. All the above info came up via quick search thru google.
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peterchen wrote: more than 3000 people die each day of hunger Of those 3000, none live in the US because of Freedom and Capitalism. The US is going to be a target of these countries that don't even have flushable toilets. Nothing but envy! They don't even consider that the US sends out more (free) food to these countries than anyone else ever! Seems they can't learn from dogs....don't bite the hand that feeds you! ed
a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
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The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
- well, in case of an MRT ;) 3) How do you know? A good friend of mine does, and it works nice, esp. on "uncurable" things like hay fever 6) Maybe the Egyptians were Aliens? How would you know, other than Occam's Razor? 7) NO, NOW THAT IS TRUE! I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF! :cool:
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
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Larry Antram wrote: Why is anything related to this freak publicized at all? These days the best way to grab attention is to say something anti-US, that way you are sure to get more press than if you were sexually abused by MJ or if you married Liz Taylor. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
True. But, the idea is defining the rules of the game, ..er.. war :-D. In domestic law, the law almost always go by precedent. If something is deemed OK for one, it is OK for all. If a judge rules today that according to current laws, theft is legal - then, tomorrow another defence lawyer will argue another theft case on this precedent, and will win. The argument about US actions should be seen in this context. Whatever US, Russia, China etc. does will get upheld in UN (by virtue of their veto powers), and thereby becomes the international law by precedent. When I opposed US foreign policies, what I meant is this. Another country, say China, saying that "ok, you set the precedent, we follow". At that point, China being a nuclear power with global delivery systems, the issue becomes complex. There are a lot of UN resolutions that are not even given any value: UN resolution on Kashmir, numerous resolutions on Palestine, the absence of a resolution on the no-fly zones. The UN resolutions don't hold any value, unless all of them are treated alike. Hence my arguments: When you are a trend-setter and leader, show leadership, not pettiness. ... and beware of the precedents you set. That is what the world will go by, atleast in the immediate future. All these matter if and only if, we all want some kind of international law, rather than "survival of the mighty". Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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True. But, the idea is defining the rules of the game, ..er.. war :-D. In domestic law, the law almost always go by precedent. If something is deemed OK for one, it is OK for all. If a judge rules today that according to current laws, theft is legal - then, tomorrow another defence lawyer will argue another theft case on this precedent, and will win. The argument about US actions should be seen in this context. Whatever US, Russia, China etc. does will get upheld in UN (by virtue of their veto powers), and thereby becomes the international law by precedent. When I opposed US foreign policies, what I meant is this. Another country, say China, saying that "ok, you set the precedent, we follow". At that point, China being a nuclear power with global delivery systems, the issue becomes complex. There are a lot of UN resolutions that are not even given any value: UN resolution on Kashmir, numerous resolutions on Palestine, the absence of a resolution on the no-fly zones. The UN resolutions don't hold any value, unless all of them are treated alike. Hence my arguments: When you are a trend-setter and leader, show leadership, not pettiness. ... and beware of the precedents you set. That is what the world will go by, atleast in the immediate future. All these matter if and only if, we all want some kind of international law, rather than "survival of the mighty". Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Brilliant post, Thomas. You are pretty knowledgable eh? :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) I do not know the answer of course, but what is so infuriating about the idea to us non-Egyptians? Are you trying to say that it the idea takes away some marvelous feat of human ingenuity? Just curious :)
Paul Watson
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:sigh: Jason Henderson wrote: Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message noone doubts that. At least, not me. the rest is nothing but minting an event into a reason to promote certain political actions. "become .. more aware of the evil in the world" sorry, but that makes me sick (as in: pre-stage to barf) Still, 24.000 are estimated to die of hunger each day. These are about 11 million since some idiot wanted to send a message.
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
Notice also that the people involved in the deaths in the WTC collapse were among the servants of the world's rich and powerful, and in some cases the world's rich and powerful...after all, they aren't on the top floors of the WTC for nothing... Also, notice that initially they were all told...TOLD...over the P.A. to go back to work...nothing was wrong...as the building was creaking and cracking all about them. They might as well have been told, "SLAVES! Have you been DISMISSED? I don't THINK SO!! Back to work!!" The whole stinkin' mess...of militarism and fear-mongering...I too am in the pre-barf stage, but a little closer to barf. It's unnatural, and horrible things are and will result because of the war- and fear-mongering...merely the fanning of the flames of injustice for purely political means...sickening. X| X| X| Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
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Um, there has been no scientific proof that 3, 4 or 5 work beyond just placebo. Especially 5 which has been tested again and again and again and fails. 4 is a strange beast. The more conservative uses might actually do something. However, curing diseases based on spine position holds no scientific water. 3 keeps coming in and out of vogue and also does little more than placebo. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
What difference does it make if there is an accepted physical explaination, or its method to get the brain to fool the body long enough to heal? In the end, the patient feels better, and is healthier. So to me the goal was met(ie. it works). BW "If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life." - Confucius
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a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
peterchen wrote: why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? Who said it was? Where in any of the above did I say an American life is more important than a life anywhere else? It isn't my fault, your fault, or the US gov't's fault the conditions there are as bad as they are. I would be more inclined to say it is the Etheopians fault for accepting the gov't they have however I don't know all the history of there area so I will not. peterchen wrote: None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US No...Don't need to. The only children who die of hunger in the US are those starved by their parent's, lost in the woos and not found or some other tragedy which is different from having a country whose leaders make it a point to keep their constituents in poverty. BIG DIFF!! And NO I'm not saying that Etheopian children starving is not a tragedy just because I used the word here and not above! peterchen wrote: Freedom In the US, I'm free to work where I want, to start my own business, to strive to make my situation better and most of all charge an exorbitant price for my services! :cool: peterchen wrote: starving and a flushing toilet Been to Etheopia lately? But that isn't the point. The point is that in most places where there is starvation there isn't Capitalism. There isn't the incentive to make oneself better. There is no free competition in the market. If there isn't the incentive to improve then why bother getting a flushing toilet...go sit in the street! In some circles it is also a measure of the civilization. peterchen wrote: import tax Are you saying the give-away program is taxed? :eek: Have a great New Year! ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
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a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
And who was the last starving person YOU sent food to? peterchen wrote: I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes What BS! Osama is one of the worlds wealthiest people. If he is hungry, itr is surely by choice. The Kamikaze's did not suicide on Allied arships because the were hungry, nor did the Empire of Japan attempt world conquest because of food shortages in Japan. That statement makes you sound like an idiot. a) A false statement. This information is talked about and written about daily, and for every one that starves, there are two or more people who spent their day working to try and address the complex and difficult issues that lead to world hunger. You must read only the popular press, and be sufficiently gullible to believe what you read there is unvarnished truth. peterchen wrote: why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? Americans feed far more Ethiopians than vice versa. You are bashing the hand that feeds. Pointless anti-americanism that contributes NOTHING to your thesis, and reveals only the depth of your prejudice. b) Source? Estimation methodology? Cause? (I found only one site that quoted the same number, also without reference to the source, and since that particular charity took 25% off the top for "administrative fees and web site maintenance" I question the authenticity...). c)Very few, Yet amazingy 80% of hits on Google for "starvation" and "world hunger" were US based charities... d) Irrelevant bullshit. and check the figures: a larger percentage of the population of totalitarian nations is deprived of sufficient food than in any democratic nation. Perhaps the correlation is not meaningless (Check UN reports on the subject, you will have to do the correlation yourself, the UN is too wimpy to even suggest there might be correlation). e) And what exactly does that statement mean? Drivel, IMHO. f) Huh? What do you mean and how does this matter? You might try: a) researching facts. b) suggesting solutions rather than engaging in mindless America-bashing. c) actually contributing to solutions youself. :mad::mad: Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could have thought of them - George Orwell
