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:sigh: Jason Henderson wrote: Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message noone doubts that. At least, not me. the rest is nothing but minting an event into a reason to promote certain political actions. "become .. more aware of the evil in the world" sorry, but that makes me sick (as in: pre-stage to barf) Still, 24.000 are estimated to die of hunger each day. These are about 11 million since some idiot wanted to send a message.
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
the deaths were preventable, most you are speaking of are not or happen everyday and we get used to them (unfortunately).
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Um, there has been no scientific proof that 3, 4 or 5 work beyond just placebo. Especially 5 which has been tested again and again and again and fails. 4 is a strange beast. The more conservative uses might actually do something. However, curing diseases based on spine position holds no scientific water. 3 keeps coming in and out of vogue and also does little more than placebo. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
#3 was actually investigated by America's National Institutes of Health (US Dept. of Health and Human Services) and found effective in some cases and safe to be practiced. It is practiced in many states and covered by many insurances. It also being taught by many medical schools throughout the world and US. Some research being conducted and that came up with actual data displaying positive effects of acupuncture. P.S. All the above info came up via quick search thru google.
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peterchen wrote: more than 3000 people die each day of hunger Of those 3000, none live in the US because of Freedom and Capitalism. The US is going to be a target of these countries that don't even have flushable toilets. Nothing but envy! They don't even consider that the US sends out more (free) food to these countries than anyone else ever! Seems they can't learn from dogs....don't bite the hand that feeds you! ed
a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
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The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
- well, in case of an MRT ;) 3) How do you know? A good friend of mine does, and it works nice, esp. on "uncurable" things like hay fever 6) Maybe the Egyptians were Aliens? How would you know, other than Occam's Razor? 7) NO, NOW THAT IS TRUE! I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF! :cool:
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
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Larry Antram wrote: Why is anything related to this freak publicized at all? These days the best way to grab attention is to say something anti-US, that way you are sure to get more press than if you were sexually abused by MJ or if you married Liz Taylor. Nish
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True. But, the idea is defining the rules of the game, ..er.. war :-D. In domestic law, the law almost always go by precedent. If something is deemed OK for one, it is OK for all. If a judge rules today that according to current laws, theft is legal - then, tomorrow another defence lawyer will argue another theft case on this precedent, and will win. The argument about US actions should be seen in this context. Whatever US, Russia, China etc. does will get upheld in UN (by virtue of their veto powers), and thereby becomes the international law by precedent. When I opposed US foreign policies, what I meant is this. Another country, say China, saying that "ok, you set the precedent, we follow". At that point, China being a nuclear power with global delivery systems, the issue becomes complex. There are a lot of UN resolutions that are not even given any value: UN resolution on Kashmir, numerous resolutions on Palestine, the absence of a resolution on the no-fly zones. The UN resolutions don't hold any value, unless all of them are treated alike. Hence my arguments: When you are a trend-setter and leader, show leadership, not pettiness. ... and beware of the precedents you set. That is what the world will go by, atleast in the immediate future. All these matter if and only if, we all want some kind of international law, rather than "survival of the mighty". Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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True. But, the idea is defining the rules of the game, ..er.. war :-D. In domestic law, the law almost always go by precedent. If something is deemed OK for one, it is OK for all. If a judge rules today that according to current laws, theft is legal - then, tomorrow another defence lawyer will argue another theft case on this precedent, and will win. The argument about US actions should be seen in this context. Whatever US, Russia, China etc. does will get upheld in UN (by virtue of their veto powers), and thereby becomes the international law by precedent. When I opposed US foreign policies, what I meant is this. Another country, say China, saying that "ok, you set the precedent, we follow". At that point, China being a nuclear power with global delivery systems, the issue becomes complex. There are a lot of UN resolutions that are not even given any value: UN resolution on Kashmir, numerous resolutions on Palestine, the absence of a resolution on the no-fly zones. The UN resolutions don't hold any value, unless all of them are treated alike. Hence my arguments: When you are a trend-setter and leader, show leadership, not pettiness. ... and beware of the precedents you set. That is what the world will go by, atleast in the immediate future. All these matter if and only if, we all want some kind of international law, rather than "survival of the mighty". Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Brilliant post, Thomas. You are pretty knowledgable eh? :-) Nish
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The same reason that the following crap is still believed today: 1. Physic like John Edward and the stupid pet psychic lady. 2. Magnets can help heal you. :laugh: 3. Acupuncture does more than just placebo effect. 4. Chiropractic medicine is more than just glorified knuckle cracking. 5. Homeopathy actually works. :rolleyes: 6. Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) 7. etc... People believe what they want to believe even when there is a total lack of evidence to support their position. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
Tim Smith wrote: Aliens built the pyramids (the idea of such should infuriate every person especially Egyptians.) I do not know the answer of course, but what is so infuriating about the idea to us non-Egyptians? Are you trying to say that it the idea takes away some marvelous feat of human ingenuity? Just curious :)
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:sigh: Jason Henderson wrote: Its not everyday that 3000 people die when 2 sky scrapers come crashing down on their heads because some idiots wanted to send a message noone doubts that. At least, not me. the rest is nothing but minting an event into a reason to promote certain political actions. "become .. more aware of the evil in the world" sorry, but that makes me sick (as in: pre-stage to barf) Still, 24.000 are estimated to die of hunger each day. These are about 11 million since some idiot wanted to send a message.
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
Notice also that the people involved in the deaths in the WTC collapse were among the servants of the world's rich and powerful, and in some cases the world's rich and powerful...after all, they aren't on the top floors of the WTC for nothing... Also, notice that initially they were all told...TOLD...over the P.A. to go back to work...nothing was wrong...as the building was creaking and cracking all about them. They might as well have been told, "SLAVES! Have you been DISMISSED? I don't THINK SO!! Back to work!!" The whole stinkin' mess...of militarism and fear-mongering...I too am in the pre-barf stage, but a little closer to barf. It's unnatural, and horrible things are and will result because of the war- and fear-mongering...merely the fanning of the flames of injustice for purely political means...sickening. X| X| X| Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart Department of Physics and Astronomy University of California, Irvine
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Um, there has been no scientific proof that 3, 4 or 5 work beyond just placebo. Especially 5 which has been tested again and again and again and fails. 4 is a strange beast. The more conservative uses might actually do something. However, curing diseases based on spine position holds no scientific water. 3 keeps coming in and out of vogue and also does little more than placebo. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.
What difference does it make if there is an accepted physical explaination, or its method to get the brain to fool the body long enough to heal? In the end, the patient feels better, and is healthier. So to me the goal was met(ie. it works). BW "If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life." - Confucius
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a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
peterchen wrote: why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? Who said it was? Where in any of the above did I say an American life is more important than a life anywhere else? It isn't my fault, your fault, or the US gov't's fault the conditions there are as bad as they are. I would be more inclined to say it is the Etheopians fault for accepting the gov't they have however I don't know all the history of there area so I will not. peterchen wrote: None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US No...Don't need to. The only children who die of hunger in the US are those starved by their parent's, lost in the woos and not found or some other tragedy which is different from having a country whose leaders make it a point to keep their constituents in poverty. BIG DIFF!! And NO I'm not saying that Etheopian children starving is not a tragedy just because I used the word here and not above! peterchen wrote: Freedom In the US, I'm free to work where I want, to start my own business, to strive to make my situation better and most of all charge an exorbitant price for my services! :cool: peterchen wrote: starving and a flushing toilet Been to Etheopia lately? But that isn't the point. The point is that in most places where there is starvation there isn't Capitalism. There isn't the incentive to make oneself better. There is no free competition in the market. If there isn't the incentive to improve then why bother getting a flushing toilet...go sit in the street! In some circles it is also a measure of the civilization. peterchen wrote: import tax Are you saying the give-away program is taxed? :eek: Have a great New Year! ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
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a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
And who was the last starving person YOU sent food to? peterchen wrote: I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes What BS! Osama is one of the worlds wealthiest people. If he is hungry, itr is surely by choice. The Kamikaze's did not suicide on Allied arships because the were hungry, nor did the Empire of Japan attempt world conquest because of food shortages in Japan. That statement makes you sound like an idiot. a) A false statement. This information is talked about and written about daily, and for every one that starves, there are two or more people who spent their day working to try and address the complex and difficult issues that lead to world hunger. You must read only the popular press, and be sufficiently gullible to believe what you read there is unvarnished truth. peterchen wrote: why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? Americans feed far more Ethiopians than vice versa. You are bashing the hand that feeds. Pointless anti-americanism that contributes NOTHING to your thesis, and reveals only the depth of your prejudice. b) Source? Estimation methodology? Cause? (I found only one site that quoted the same number, also without reference to the source, and since that particular charity took 25% off the top for "administrative fees and web site maintenance" I question the authenticity...). c)Very few, Yet amazingy 80% of hits on Google for "starvation" and "world hunger" were US based charities... d) Irrelevant bullshit. and check the figures: a larger percentage of the population of totalitarian nations is deprived of sufficient food than in any democratic nation. Perhaps the correlation is not meaningless (Check UN reports on the subject, you will have to do the correlation yourself, the UN is too wimpy to even suggest there might be correlation). e) And what exactly does that statement mean? Drivel, IMHO. f) Huh? What do you mean and how does this matter? You might try: a) researching facts. b) suggesting solutions rather than engaging in mindless America-bashing. c) actually contributing to solutions youself. :mad::mad: Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could have thought of them - George Orwell
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a) I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes. The point about hunger is: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? b) it's estimated 24,000 daily. c) None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US d) Freedom doesn't help you not starve, unless your definition of "freedom" is way off mine. e) there seems to be a difference between starving and a flushing toilet, that got lost on the way over the ocean f) Same import tax for pre-processed as well as raw food would make much more. (I know that not only the US supports that...)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
peterchen wrote: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? No one has said that American life is more important than life in any other country. However, it would be terribly stupid of American's to not use all of their resources (political and economic) to prevent such an occurance from happening again. Our declaration of independence states: WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed ... Certainly the government of the United States has the responsibility to secure the right of Life. That is to say, to secure from danger the right to live. This does not mean that the government must preserve the lives of the starving, but it certainly means that the government should preserve the right of its citizens to live. Clearly, the attack on the WTC is an infringement upon that right by another party.
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And who was the last starving person YOU sent food to? peterchen wrote: I suppose Osama wan't hungry, the same goes for the kamikazes What BS! Osama is one of the worlds wealthiest people. If he is hungry, itr is surely by choice. The Kamikaze's did not suicide on Allied arships because the were hungry, nor did the Empire of Japan attempt world conquest because of food shortages in Japan. That statement makes you sound like an idiot. a) A false statement. This information is talked about and written about daily, and for every one that starves, there are two or more people who spent their day working to try and address the complex and difficult issues that lead to world hunger. You must read only the popular press, and be sufficiently gullible to believe what you read there is unvarnished truth. peterchen wrote: why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? Americans feed far more Ethiopians than vice versa. You are bashing the hand that feeds. Pointless anti-americanism that contributes NOTHING to your thesis, and reveals only the depth of your prejudice. b) Source? Estimation methodology? Cause? (I found only one site that quoted the same number, also without reference to the source, and since that particular charity took 25% off the top for "administrative fees and web site maintenance" I question the authenticity...). c)Very few, Yet amazingy 80% of hits on Google for "starvation" and "world hunger" were US based charities... d) Irrelevant bullshit. and check the figures: a larger percentage of the population of totalitarian nations is deprived of sufficient food than in any democratic nation. Perhaps the correlation is not meaningless (Check UN reports on the subject, you will have to do the correlation yourself, the UN is too wimpy to even suggest there might be correlation). e) And what exactly does that statement mean? Drivel, IMHO. f) Huh? What do you mean and how does this matter? You might try: a) researching facts. b) suggesting solutions rather than engaging in mindless America-bashing. c) actually contributing to solutions youself. :mad::mad: Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could have thought of them - George Orwell
Mostly questions.... Rob Graham wrote: if [Osama] is hungry, itr is surely by choice. The Kamikaze's did not suicide [...] because the were hungry Did you read what you quoted? Exactly what I said. You are missing the point: more people die daily, without being reason for that much "face the evil of the world" speeches. What made these 3000 so special? The way they died? Their location at the time they died? Their most common country of origin? (btw. Kamikazes refered to the 9/11 wannabe-pilots) What is your opinion of "popular press"? How do you tell I 100% believe everything I read just because it's written? Why is pointing out that an Ethiopian life might be ethically equivalent to an US-American "pointles anti-americanism"? Are you the MAster RAce? Forgive my assumptions about what drives you, but I really don't get what you mean. b) I must admit I didn't count them personally. Even if it's 1/10th of the number quoted, it still compares to 9/11 in order of magnitude. c) so what? US based charities probably have the best resources to set up a web site that's found by google in the first N pages. d) Following your argumentation: In Germany, students coming to town strongly correlates to high river water levels. But the cause are not students, but climate conditions and the time semester starts. Freedom has nothing to do with what you have to eat. Modern Capitalism has. Of course, it depends on your definition of freedom, but I haven't come across one that saves you from starving. e) Blaming someone who is starving to be envious (sp?) of a flushing toilet is what I'd call drivel. And I'll continue to attack such statements like a rabid attack chihuahua until.. um, I get tired I guess ;) f) It is nearly impossible to build a local basic industry in many 3rd world countries, even when they are comparedly rich on resources: due to high import taxes on processed goods, compared to low taxes on unprocessed goods, they are forced to sell raw bulk. Your a) I'm trying... Your b) Where did you read "Pointless american bashing"? Where? Maybe I was bashing Ed, and maybe part of it is pointless, but why blame me of bashing all americans? Your c) I'm trying... Peter
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political
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peterchen wrote: There are many more people dying every day - but noone hears them because they are no US americans. Yet, why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? No one has said that American life is more important than life in any other country. However, it would be terribly stupid of American's to not use all of their resources (political and economic) to prevent such an occurance from happening again. Our declaration of independence states: WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed ... Certainly the government of the United States has the responsibility to secure the right of Life. That is to say, to secure from danger the right to live. This does not mean that the government must preserve the lives of the starving, but it certainly means that the government should preserve the right of its citizens to live. Clearly, the attack on the WTC is an infringement upon that right by another party.
Jack Knife wrote: However, it would be terribly stupid of American's to not use all of their resources (political and economic) to prevent such an occurance from happening again I fully agree. However, what I see that such an ugly event is used (once again in history) at large scale to drive political agendas that just have been waiting in the drawer for the perfect moment. I just don't believe that putting billions into surveillance projects and bomb building will do terribly much to "protect the american citizen". And I feel using the 3000 deaths of 9/11 to promote such agendas is a horrible abuse. And what makes me feel sick is that "we are the best" attitude - it would feel "more right" if it would sell as "American Survivalism" (as J.Henderson tends to do, and I'm not sure if he's joking much). But, who am I, to expect any country to care about my feelings of right or wrong. ;)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
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peterchen wrote: why is an American life more important than an Ethopian? Who said it was? Where in any of the above did I say an American life is more important than a life anywhere else? It isn't my fault, your fault, or the US gov't's fault the conditions there are as bad as they are. I would be more inclined to say it is the Etheopians fault for accepting the gov't they have however I don't know all the history of there area so I will not. peterchen wrote: None of them lives in the US? Think again. NOT MANY of them live in the US No...Don't need to. The only children who die of hunger in the US are those starved by their parent's, lost in the woos and not found or some other tragedy which is different from having a country whose leaders make it a point to keep their constituents in poverty. BIG DIFF!! And NO I'm not saying that Etheopian children starving is not a tragedy just because I used the word here and not above! peterchen wrote: Freedom In the US, I'm free to work where I want, to start my own business, to strive to make my situation better and most of all charge an exorbitant price for my services! :cool: peterchen wrote: starving and a flushing toilet Been to Etheopia lately? But that isn't the point. The point is that in most places where there is starvation there isn't Capitalism. There isn't the incentive to make oneself better. There is no free competition in the market. If there isn't the incentive to improve then why bother getting a flushing toilet...go sit in the street! In some circles it is also a measure of the civilization. peterchen wrote: import tax Are you saying the give-away program is taxed? :eek: Have a great New Year! ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
Ed K wrote: Who said it was? Comparing the tamtam about the 3000 americans to the "call to action" twhich starving people elsewhere get, it looks like. And admittedly, the most likely death for US "social dropouts" is freezing, not starving - but still: it's not impossible to die the same death in the US. Ed K wrote: Been to Etheopia lately? No, the most 3rd-worldish places I've been are Honduras, Guatemala, and some mountain region in Portugal ;) I see the correlation between capitalism and starvation - but else see my reply to Rob Graham (german students and high water levels) It's not impossible to strike it economically successful in a dictatorship, only the rules are different (in the US you are still bound by market and social restriction). I don't believe in the "If you want you can" attitude anymore: just as I see lazy bums, I see enough people around me that are willing to work, even under hard conditions, yet they fail miserably, ruining their lives, without something that can be blamed on them. import tax (See also reply to Rob Graham) In short: 1st & 2nd word import taxes for unprocessed food are low, but high for pre-processed food. Result: Building up a local food processing economy doesn't work for many 3rd world countries. P.S. I almost forgot: Happy new year to you, and to all others. May few things explode around you. :rose:
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
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Jack Knife wrote: However, it would be terribly stupid of American's to not use all of their resources (political and economic) to prevent such an occurance from happening again I fully agree. However, what I see that such an ugly event is used (once again in history) at large scale to drive political agendas that just have been waiting in the drawer for the perfect moment. I just don't believe that putting billions into surveillance projects and bomb building will do terribly much to "protect the american citizen". And I feel using the 3000 deaths of 9/11 to promote such agendas is a horrible abuse. And what makes me feel sick is that "we are the best" attitude - it would feel "more right" if it would sell as "American Survivalism" (as J.Henderson tends to do, and I'm not sure if he's joking much). But, who am I, to expect any country to care about my feelings of right or wrong. ;)
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
As far as I am concerned, I am tired of all this BS about american charities sending food to Africa. Charity, by definition, means that the giver expects nothing in return - not even loyalty. I want to take an example of what drives terrorism. I will take one which probably will have the least personal impact on any of our members. The tamils in SriLanka complained about discrimination by the Sinhalese majority for a long time. Since, they were of no political or economic consequence, the government chose to ignore their demands. LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) was formed to fight against the Srilankan government. They built up an army of people, smuggled weapons, and started fighting. No one still cared. Being an internal matter of SriLanka, the international community refrained to take action. Since the civil war was being fought on the Tamilian-concentrated north SriLanka, the rest of Srilanka had none or little impact due to this civil war. The tamilians resent their being bogged down by war, when the other part of SriLanka leads a good life (as before, the freedom struggle was not making their condition any better, infact it became worse.) LTTE turned a leaf, and started terrorist operations. They are responsible for some of the most spectacular assassinations and tesstorist attacks ever - the latest being an attack on Colombo airport destroying a large number of planes. They also assassinated four Srilankan Presidents and one Indian Prime Minister (for sending Indian troops to help SriLanka). Now, the SriLanan government and LTTE talks through the Norweian mediation, and have tentatively agreed on Tamilian autonomous province in the north of Srilanka. Once that happens, LTTE has offerred no more terrorist strikes and the Srilankan government has offerred LTTE immunity for their previous attacks. Summary: The SriLankan government chose to ignore a minority in their country, drove them up the wall to take arms; terrorism being the only option, LTTE resorted to it and successfully bargained an autonomy (not yet achieved, but is offered now). Was the SriLankan government wrong? or the LTTE wrong? We can argue about the moral side of how terrorism is wrong - but, ultimately people in very disadvantageous positions resort to drastic steps, where they do not care about their lives anymore. (because it doesn't give them much to cheer about anyway) I think that if the world looks sympathetically at the problems of fellow human beings, a lot of this can be avoided.
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Ed K wrote: Who said it was? Comparing the tamtam about the 3000 americans to the "call to action" twhich starving people elsewhere get, it looks like. And admittedly, the most likely death for US "social dropouts" is freezing, not starving - but still: it's not impossible to die the same death in the US. Ed K wrote: Been to Etheopia lately? No, the most 3rd-worldish places I've been are Honduras, Guatemala, and some mountain region in Portugal ;) I see the correlation between capitalism and starvation - but else see my reply to Rob Graham (german students and high water levels) It's not impossible to strike it economically successful in a dictatorship, only the rules are different (in the US you are still bound by market and social restriction). I don't believe in the "If you want you can" attitude anymore: just as I see lazy bums, I see enough people around me that are willing to work, even under hard conditions, yet they fail miserably, ruining their lives, without something that can be blamed on them. import tax (See also reply to Rob Graham) In short: 1st & 2nd word import taxes for unprocessed food are low, but high for pre-processed food. Result: Building up a local food processing economy doesn't work for many 3rd world countries. P.S. I almost forgot: Happy new year to you, and to all others. May few things explode around you. :rose:
As James Bond in "die another day", Pierce Brosnan features traits handy in the dawning millenium. He fights without hesitation in a bewildering environment, trusts his high-tech-gadgets, and rather falls for beauty than pondering the political absurdities around him. [sighist]
Well pete come bash me! Obviously you've bought the BS. Enjoy! Oh...where has there ever been an economy that rivals that of the US which is run by a dictator? Thanks, ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
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As far as I am concerned, I am tired of all this BS about american charities sending food to Africa. Charity, by definition, means that the giver expects nothing in return - not even loyalty. I want to take an example of what drives terrorism. I will take one which probably will have the least personal impact on any of our members. The tamils in SriLanka complained about discrimination by the Sinhalese majority for a long time. Since, they were of no political or economic consequence, the government chose to ignore their demands. LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) was formed to fight against the Srilankan government. They built up an army of people, smuggled weapons, and started fighting. No one still cared. Being an internal matter of SriLanka, the international community refrained to take action. Since the civil war was being fought on the Tamilian-concentrated north SriLanka, the rest of Srilanka had none or little impact due to this civil war. The tamilians resent their being bogged down by war, when the other part of SriLanka leads a good life (as before, the freedom struggle was not making their condition any better, infact it became worse.) LTTE turned a leaf, and started terrorist operations. They are responsible for some of the most spectacular assassinations and tesstorist attacks ever - the latest being an attack on Colombo airport destroying a large number of planes. They also assassinated four Srilankan Presidents and one Indian Prime Minister (for sending Indian troops to help SriLanka). Now, the SriLanan government and LTTE talks through the Norweian mediation, and have tentatively agreed on Tamilian autonomous province in the north of Srilanka. Once that happens, LTTE has offerred no more terrorist strikes and the Srilankan government has offerred LTTE immunity for their previous attacks. Summary: The SriLankan government chose to ignore a minority in their country, drove them up the wall to take arms; terrorism being the only option, LTTE resorted to it and successfully bargained an autonomy (not yet achieved, but is offered now). Was the SriLankan government wrong? or the LTTE wrong? We can argue about the moral side of how terrorism is wrong - but, ultimately people in very disadvantageous positions resort to drastic steps, where they do not care about their lives anymore. (because it doesn't give them much to cheer about anyway) I think that if the world looks sympathetically at the problems of fellow human beings, a lot of this can be avoided.
The same choice was available at the end of the Civil War. But rather than resort to terrorism and guerrila war, the Confederates surrendered. Sometimes civility pays off! ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
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The same choice was available at the end of the Civil War. But rather than resort to terrorism and guerrila war, the Confederates surrendered. Sometimes civility pays off! ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
It is a matter of circumstance. If LTTE surrendered, all of them would be convicted and sent to death row, which left them with no other choice. I do not know what the situation was at the end of the civil war. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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It is a matter of circumstance. If LTTE surrendered, all of them would be convicted and sent to death row, which left them with no other choice. I do not know what the situation was at the end of the civil war. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Not the same since that would have meant death row for the whole confederacy! They would have never caught up, not even here in Texas! :laugh: ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
