Engagement Rings [modified]
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wizardzz wrote:
Anyways, who should I shop with?
The person who you expect to give the ring to. It may take some of the surprise out of things, but you'll end up buying a ring based upon input from the person who is going to wear it. And remember, you still don't have to tell her when you are going to give it to her. :)
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Oh she knows I plan on doing it on vacation, and I have a vacation loosely planned for the 10th anniversary of when we started dating the first time. I know if I take her, she will freak out over the price, "Could you just buy me a new car" will be said.
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She knows, but I should do it before I get a raise in November, right?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Do you really need to have the ring itself when you propose? A friend of mine proposed using his mother's engagement ring (borrowed for the occasion) at a champaigne brunch, then the two of them spent the rest of the day shopping together for both an engagement ring and matching wedding rings. She got exactly what she wanted in the correct size, and he wasn't stuck with an expensive white elephant if she said "No" or "Not yet."
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Do you really need to have the ring itself when you propose? A friend of mine proposed using his mother's engagement ring (borrowed for the occasion) at a champaigne brunch, then the two of them spent the rest of the day shopping together for both an engagement ring and matching wedding rings. She got exactly what she wanted in the correct size, and he wasn't stuck with an expensive white elephant if she said "No" or "Not yet."
Well, let me put it this way. She won't believe me unless she sees a rock. I'd probably just go with a place with some sort of return policy or guarantee in the case she doesn't like it.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
In my, and more importantly Mrs Wife's, opinion, the engagement ring should never be a solitaire. Look for a single good diamond, in a surround of several smaller gems. If you know absolutely that Ms Wizz likes a different gem then consider it, but I would strongly encourage you go for classic diamond in the centre of some smaller diamonds and/or emeralds; if you can afford it. Forget about the 2 month thing, it's the stones. Carat is the first point, try and go over 0.50ct, unfortunately going from a 0.49ct to a .50ct can nearly double the price so if you can't stretch too far look for something between .45ct and .49ct. Clarity will again bump up the price, but don't surrender this. Look for VS1 or possible VVS2. Don't accept anything lower than VS2, it will show and she will know. Colour is a personal thing. Mrs Wife has some E and F stones but mostly they're in the G or H. If it's at all yellow, even slightly, under white light then forget about it as the brilliance will be lost. Cut is again a personal preference, check Ms Wizz's current jewellery for any repeat offenders as she's probably got a favourite. The mount of the ring, contrary to popular belief, makes no difference to the way the stones shine. People think that because the Tiffany mount is so open more light gets in so the stones shine brighter. This is a fallacy as the shine of the stone comes from refracted light entering the top of the stone. If you can find something out of the normal than she will adore you [even more than she does now]. Finally the ring itself. I knew what I wanted for the wedding rings and so the design of the engagement ring was based around that. If you know what wedding rings you would like, it's a hard call now I know, then try to get a ring with a band that will work. The very least is to have the same metal for both; ours are white gold. I'm sorry to say, but if you want to do it the big-boys way then you're going to have to choose it. Look for something that she will like, after all she'll be wearing it for the rest of her life...
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Oh she knows I plan on doing it on vacation, and I have a vacation loosely planned for the 10th anniversary of when we started dating the first time. I know if I take her, she will freak out over the price, "Could you just buy me a new car" will be said.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
I know if I take her, she will freak out over the price, "Could you just buy me a new car" will be said.
Then get her a new car instead of a ring :-D Keep in mind that engagement rings were not common until the 1930s, when the DeBeers diamond company began an aggressive advertising campaign to make their product = marriage. Before then other gifts were common: the idea behind a betrothal gift is to "buy" the woman's consent, after all, so go with whatever currency works. If you really like the idea of jewelry, get her an engagement bracelet, or earrings, or a necklace. Because they are not so closely tied to the idea of marriage, you won't have to pay such a high premium.
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Well, let me put it this way. She won't believe me unless she sees a rock. I'd probably just go with a place with some sort of return policy or guarantee in the case she doesn't like it.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
So give her a rock ;P Buy a single stone and offer that. Maybe it is a diamond, maybe a tanzanite or other gem. Maybe a high quality set of her birthstone, a large and a pair of small. If she accepts, she can get them set however she wants. Again, you won't need to worry about style or size. In my experience, buying loose stones and getting them set to order is no more expensive than getting something ready-made, and frequently can save you money.
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Oh she knows I plan on doing it on vacation, and I have a vacation loosely planned for the 10th anniversary of when we started dating the first time. I know if I take her, she will freak out over the price, "Could you just buy me a new car" will be said.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
Oh she knows I plan on doing it on vacation
:doh: Dude! If that's the case then include her in it and save yourself a lot of hassle. This way you can discuss it and hopefully come to the conclusion that money is best saved for your actual life needs going forward and not for some marketing gimmick that admittedly makes the ladies swoon but isn't very practical (in these tough economic times).
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Let your woman pick out the ring. That way you know if she says she likes it that she is not lying to you. If she really doesn't want a ring then get her what she does want. I think both of these tips have already been mentioned but they are important...I know. My opinion and experience is that if she really loves you, the ring you get her will not set you back much in money. A good woman would know that you are strapped for cash and may even take a rain check on the ring until you "both" have the money. My suggestions is that you two get married and really enjoy each other for a few years. Once you realize that you won't be getting a divorce anytime soon then buy her a ring. good luck and may the comedy of life be with you both always.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Where the hell do these "standards" come from, who made them up, and if they're standards, why does nobody know anything about them until just before they're relevant to them? Besides engagement rings are a tradition started by a diamond mining family in order to keep the prices inflated. I got my girlfriend (wife now) into a jewelry shop on the pretense of there being an art exhibition on (it was a small exhibition). I said while we're here we might as well take a look at rings, we found one she really liked, and got her finger measured, but this was all very casual and "if I was going to get one". I put the deposit on the ring a couple of days later, got the ring a month later and then waited a whole month trying to find the right moment to ask the question.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
18 years ago I took my now wife with me to shop for rings. She knew what the budget could afford, and we ended up getting a reasonable priced ring that she actually liked. If she knows the question is going to be popped already, then forgo the small surprise for better satisfaction. Getting her one within budget that has the visual look she likes will go further in my opinion, than the little bit of surprise. Another option is to take her shopping to "just look" and get an idea of what she likes, then you could still surprise her with the actual date/time of the knee bending.
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Well if he's about to get married he might as well get used to this... :rolleyes:
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wizardzz wrote:
Anyways, who should I shop with?
The person who you expect to give the ring to. It may take some of the surprise out of things, but you'll end up buying a ring based upon input from the person who is going to wear it. And remember, you still don't have to tell her when you are going to give it to her. :)
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Chris Meech wrote:
The person who you expect to give the ring to. It may take some of the surprise out of things, but you'll end up buying a ring based upon input from the person who is going to wear it. And remember, you still don't have to tell her when you are going to give it to her. :)
He could always tell her the he is going to propose to some other girl he has met in the supermarket and keep the surprise safe. :)
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Skip the ring, it’s a bad karma! When I first proposed to a woman I bought her a beautiful diamond ring (about $70 in the local jewelry but I told her it’s $800 :) ) and she accepted crying from happiness. We separated two months later after 5 years of passionate relationship. With my current wife we skiped the engagement stuff entirely and went directly to the marriage. It works so far for us, for our daughter and for my step-daughter.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used?
Those that use such a standard should be shot. Those that thought it up should be shot...twice.
wizardzz wrote:
I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket...
That sounds sort of strange.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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She knows, but I should do it before I get a raise in November, right?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Raise? I've forgotten what those look like :sigh:
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Raise? I've forgotten what those look like :sigh:
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We'll see, it was a promise made in April...
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
The whole salary standard for how much to spend was a brilliand marketing ploy by De Beers. In fact, the whole diamond engagement ring wasn't nearly so popular until De Beers made it so in the 1930's. You can read about it on Wikipedia or watch some of the documentaries on diamonds. Now that I've got you all cynical about the whole thing you can think about what'll make the Mrs. happy. Find out what kind of setting she likes. White gold, yellow gold etc. The setting can make a small diamond or group of diamonds look big, flashy or intricate and sylish. You probably already know if she's the kind of person who cares more about the quality of the diamond or more about the thought that's going into it and who it's coming from. That should help you decide if you should get her a bigger one that has some imperfections for the same price as a smaller one that's of higher quality. Unltimately the value of the ring isn't a big factor, unless someone's planning on selling it, which isn't a good sign to begin with. Cheers, Drew.
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The whole salary standard for how much to spend was a brilliand marketing ploy by De Beers. In fact, the whole diamond engagement ring wasn't nearly so popular until De Beers made it so in the 1930's. You can read about it on Wikipedia or watch some of the documentaries on diamonds. Now that I've got you all cynical about the whole thing you can think about what'll make the Mrs. happy. Find out what kind of setting she likes. White gold, yellow gold etc. The setting can make a small diamond or group of diamonds look big, flashy or intricate and sylish. You probably already know if she's the kind of person who cares more about the quality of the diamond or more about the thought that's going into it and who it's coming from. That should help you decide if you should get her a bigger one that has some imperfections for the same price as a smaller one that's of higher quality. Unltimately the value of the ring isn't a big factor, unless someone's planning on selling it, which isn't a good sign to begin with. Cheers, Drew.
Honestly, I'd rather the money of the ring go to the gold than the diamond. I know she prefers white gold. She is socially conscious so she wouldn't want to support the blood diamond biz. I guess she feels vintage pieces contribute less to it? I might talk to my mother about using my grandmother's ring.
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