Engagement Rings [modified]
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Let your woman pick out the ring. That way you know if she says she likes it that she is not lying to you. If she really doesn't want a ring then get her what she does want. I think both of these tips have already been mentioned but they are important...I know. My opinion and experience is that if she really loves you, the ring you get her will not set you back much in money. A good woman would know that you are strapped for cash and may even take a rain check on the ring until you "both" have the money. My suggestions is that you two get married and really enjoy each other for a few years. Once you realize that you won't be getting a divorce anytime soon then buy her a ring. good luck and may the comedy of life be with you both always.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Where the hell do these "standards" come from, who made them up, and if they're standards, why does nobody know anything about them until just before they're relevant to them? Besides engagement rings are a tradition started by a diamond mining family in order to keep the prices inflated. I got my girlfriend (wife now) into a jewelry shop on the pretense of there being an art exhibition on (it was a small exhibition). I said while we're here we might as well take a look at rings, we found one she really liked, and got her finger measured, but this was all very casual and "if I was going to get one". I put the deposit on the ring a couple of days later, got the ring a month later and then waited a whole month trying to find the right moment to ask the question.
Pete
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
18 years ago I took my now wife with me to shop for rings. She knew what the budget could afford, and we ended up getting a reasonable priced ring that she actually liked. If she knows the question is going to be popped already, then forgo the small surprise for better satisfaction. Getting her one within budget that has the visual look she likes will go further in my opinion, than the little bit of surprise. Another option is to take her shopping to "just look" and get an idea of what she likes, then you could still surprise her with the actual date/time of the knee bending.
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Well if he's about to get married he might as well get used to this... :rolleyes:
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wizardzz wrote:
Anyways, who should I shop with?
The person who you expect to give the ring to. It may take some of the surprise out of things, but you'll end up buying a ring based upon input from the person who is going to wear it. And remember, you still don't have to tell her when you are going to give it to her. :)
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Chris Meech wrote:
The person who you expect to give the ring to. It may take some of the surprise out of things, but you'll end up buying a ring based upon input from the person who is going to wear it. And remember, you still don't have to tell her when you are going to give it to her. :)
He could always tell her the he is going to propose to some other girl he has met in the supermarket and keep the surprise safe. :)
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Skip the ring, it’s a bad karma! When I first proposed to a woman I bought her a beautiful diamond ring (about $70 in the local jewelry but I told her it’s $800 :) ) and she accepted crying from happiness. We separated two months later after 5 years of passionate relationship. With my current wife we skiped the engagement stuff entirely and went directly to the marriage. It works so far for us, for our daughter and for my step-daughter.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used?
Those that use such a standard should be shot. Those that thought it up should be shot...twice.
wizardzz wrote:
I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket...
That sounds sort of strange.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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She knows, but I should do it before I get a raise in November, right?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Raise? I've forgotten what those look like :sigh:
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Raise? I've forgotten what those look like :sigh:
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
We'll see, it was a promise made in April...
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
The whole salary standard for how much to spend was a brilliand marketing ploy by De Beers. In fact, the whole diamond engagement ring wasn't nearly so popular until De Beers made it so in the 1930's. You can read about it on Wikipedia or watch some of the documentaries on diamonds. Now that I've got you all cynical about the whole thing you can think about what'll make the Mrs. happy. Find out what kind of setting she likes. White gold, yellow gold etc. The setting can make a small diamond or group of diamonds look big, flashy or intricate and sylish. You probably already know if she's the kind of person who cares more about the quality of the diamond or more about the thought that's going into it and who it's coming from. That should help you decide if you should get her a bigger one that has some imperfections for the same price as a smaller one that's of higher quality. Unltimately the value of the ring isn't a big factor, unless someone's planning on selling it, which isn't a good sign to begin with. Cheers, Drew.
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The whole salary standard for how much to spend was a brilliand marketing ploy by De Beers. In fact, the whole diamond engagement ring wasn't nearly so popular until De Beers made it so in the 1930's. You can read about it on Wikipedia or watch some of the documentaries on diamonds. Now that I've got you all cynical about the whole thing you can think about what'll make the Mrs. happy. Find out what kind of setting she likes. White gold, yellow gold etc. The setting can make a small diamond or group of diamonds look big, flashy or intricate and sylish. You probably already know if she's the kind of person who cares more about the quality of the diamond or more about the thought that's going into it and who it's coming from. That should help you decide if you should get her a bigger one that has some imperfections for the same price as a smaller one that's of higher quality. Unltimately the value of the ring isn't a big factor, unless someone's planning on selling it, which isn't a good sign to begin with. Cheers, Drew.
Honestly, I'd rather the money of the ring go to the gold than the diamond. I know she prefers white gold. She is socially conscious so she wouldn't want to support the blood diamond biz. I guess she feels vintage pieces contribute less to it? I might talk to my mother about using my grandmother's ring.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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wizardzz wrote:
Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used?
Those that use such a standard should be shot. Those that thought it up should be shot...twice.
wizardzz wrote:
I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket...
That sounds sort of strange.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather
Meaning I wouldn't feel weird talking budget, but yes, that is very odd sounding, you ass!
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
My wife and I were married for five years before getting rings.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
What I did with my girlfriend was to arrange for one of her friends to invite my girlfriend to go shopping at one of the local malls and “happen” to stop into a jewelry store to look at rings and so forth. Her friend was more than willing to help me out. She thought it was ‘romantic”. Her friend reported back to me the rings my girlfriend liked, even the ring size (which I never thought of). And my girlfriend never suspected, she’s now my wife of 18 years. However you choose, good luck!:rose:
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Honestly, I'd rather the money of the ring go to the gold than the diamond. I know she prefers white gold. She is socially conscious so she wouldn't want to support the blood diamond biz. I guess she feels vintage pieces contribute less to it? I might talk to my mother about using my grandmother's ring.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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wizardzz wrote:
I might talk to my mother about using my grandmother's ring.
Or take Grandma's ring and have it modified to something she will really like. Cheers, Drew.
That's also a possibility. I know she likes vintagey midcentury/mod styles. I bought her a painted white gold Hidalgo ring some time ago and she wears it daily, no stones, very mod look to it. I can't find a picture of it online though.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
What is more important to both of you? An expensive ring or a symbol of commitment? I gave my wife a simple ring with a green gem stone - I don't even know what kind of stone it is! But, she liked it and we got married; last month was seven years. I bought her another ring last year (just something we both liked) and she put it on where the engagement ring normally sits; the engagement ring was moved to her right hand. She's happy; I'm happy. What more could we want? Tim
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
It doesn't matter how much of your salary you're spending on the ring. It really doesn't. If you get it on a really good sale and it costs a lot less, great! It's none of her business to know how much a gift cost, when you're (hopefully) not combining your financial powers yet - a man can have his mysteries, too. You're not buying it for her friends or family, who are usually the ones who form opinions about you based on wild speculation around the price tag. Your girl's opinion is the most important! :) Get something of good quality, whatever you get. I agree with the other poster who mentioned the gem qualities to look at. Read up on diamonds so you have an idea about these things, then go to a few higher-end stores to learn more about the stones and bands before you commit to buying anything. Go in, and say right up front that you're doing some research and won't be making a purchase today. They will usually tell you about upcoming sales, too, so that's a nice benefit. Remember that the salespeople are like car salespeople. They make a commission, so they're really going to push hard to close the sale or try to convince you to come back. You can work that to your advantage. Find out about their warranties, because they'll be a lot happier and more likely to let you know about deals if they can give you literature and talk at you for a minute or two. Just don't commit to getting anything just yet and remember that nothing but your signature obligates you to come back. You mentioned gems that give you a clear conscience elsewhere in the thread. I might suggest finding out if she would be happy with artificially created gems in that case, or doing a whole lot of research on the origins of the stones you're getting. Stores are more conscious that people want to know these things. If they can't tell you, don't buy from them. There are plenty of other stores that CAN tell you. They have made humongous strides in lab-created diamonds, as opposed to cubic zirconium which isn't quite the same.
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So, yes, it's time to pick one out. Is the old standard of 2 months salary still used? If so, fuck, I'm just finishing up my student loan payments. Anyways, who should I shop with? I have 0 female friends, my girlfriend is my best friend. I have a female cousin that just got married, and is in my salary bracket, so she could help. I don't want to involve the girlfriend's family as they can't keep anything secret. Open to any advice. [Tons of great advice! I should point out that she doesn't know, at all, what I intend to do.]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.