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I think the word you were looking for was "traitors", and the use of that word depends on who's ideology you favor. To the crown, they word "traitors", or in today's vernacular, would be called "domestic terrorists". To us, they were "rights activists", or even "patriots". Today's "Tea Party" was named after the Boston Tea Party in that they claim to be fighting to get our rights and proper representation back. To *me*, they're just a bunch of politicians (and ex-lawyers), and as such, they aren't to be trusted with *my* liberties. The only person that can reclaim *my* liberties and rights as enumerated in the Constitution, is *me*.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997They way I heard it was smugglers were undercutting the British tea (because of it was taxed in the UK before it was exported). The British govt responded by lowering that tax to make it compettetive. The smugglers took afront at the competition and blocked the unloading of tea from a number of boats, which returned to Britain. One boat didnt, and it was attacked by 100 odd men, some dressed up as indians, and threw the tea in the harbour. The interesting thing is the dressing up as indians. From what I understand the British govt had a treaty wiuth them that limited the British territory from encroahing on land seen as belonging to the indians. The rich Bostonian traders (smugglers) wanted to exploit this land owned by the indians and in order to try to break the amicable relationship between them and the British tried to make it look like it was indians attacking destroying the tea. Dont know if that is the reason or not, but it is interesting.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
To us, they were "rights activists", or even "patriots".
They called themselves the "Sons of Liberty" and were headed up by Paul Revere & Sam Adams - who were rather pissed that Crazy George III had occupied Boston with two regiments of British soldiers, in order to force Americans -- as they were beginning to think of themselves -- to buy tea from the East India Company, in which George owned a large share. Crony capitalism then, little difference from crony capitalism now.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Or the soldiers, whi were there already, seeing as how it was British territory, were protecting the tea from smugglers whose intent was to destroy it because the tax on it had been reduced by the British govt in oreder to compete with the smuggled tea.
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And, they were no where near the St. Lawrence River.
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Ravel is a queer as a three dollar bill - therefore since Michele Bachmann's husband makes his living proving to gays that it's something they can be cured of, he hates her guts. Of course, at 17 and never having lived in the U.S., he actually knows little about American politics and less about Bachmann, but then he doesn't have to.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
Ravel is a queer as a three dollar bill
You are bordering on being offensive.
Oakman wrote:
husband makes his living proving to gays that it's something they can be cured of
Do you think he has succeeded? Do you therefore think it is a disease?
Oakman wrote:
Of course, at 17 and never having lived in the U.S., he actually knows little about American politics
Two issues, age is not a barrier to understanding and secondly we have access abroad to US media. (In fact there is a lot of US politics in the UK media, as well as a lot of US stuff on TV giving a generally wide familarity with US for those interested).
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Ravel is a queer as a three dollar bill - therefore since Michele Bachmann's husband makes his living proving to gays that it's something they can be cured of, he hates her guts. Of course, at 17 and never having lived in the U.S., he actually knows little about American politics and less about Bachmann, but then he doesn't have to.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
Ravel is a queer as a three dollar bill - therefore since Michele Bachmann's husband makes his living proving to gays that it's something they can be cured of, he hates her guts.
Actually I formulated a disliking for Michele Bachmann long before I knew what her incompetent "pray-away-the-gay" quack husband did for a living. Homosexuality cannot be 'cured', and I could post many scientific journal articles supporting this, but that would be a waste of my time considering how intellectually lazy you are.
Oakman wrote:
Of course, at 17 and never having lived in the U.S., he actually knows little about American politics and less about Bachmann, but then he doesn't have to.
OK then, tell me what I am missing out on not being in such a privileged position as you are. Are there intelligent things Michele Bachmann says that miraculously never leave your country? Or do you have to be a pompous Randroid before they sound reasonable?
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Majerus wrote:
Don't be fooled.
We are so lucky to have you around to reveal the secret conspiracies that threaten America. :rolleyes:
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
We are so lucky to have you around to reveal the secret conspiracies that threaten America. :rolleyes:
But he is form the US, and therefore by your deffinition an expert whose opinion must be heeded. ;P
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So.. Michelle Bachmann in the only Tea Party politician then? Read the FULL message.. don't be selective. Have you met EVERY Tea Party politician or are you making potentially slanderous statements about people whom you've never met?
As someone who has pretty well kept tabs on the movement, from the time they were proudly calling themselves Teabaggers(and I was dying laughing), there are two varieties of Tea Party politicians. One, the stupid ones, the blindly violent, ignorant, and obviously completely not at fault for what any of their rhetoric invokes ones. Two, the unfortunate ones, who thought they could actually accomplish something from a third party, and don't have the good sense to run screaming from the lot of idiots they threw in with. If you're a Tea Partier and you have sane goals, run for the hills and start something else, because the moment someone attached a bunch of tea bags in a corporate board room to protest taxes it was quite over. The tricorn hats with tea bags stapled to them were a bad sign as well.
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One thing I found interesting was in a rant about name-calling, you used an insulting and demeaning version of the Tea Party's name - even though the movement is named after one of the first exhibition of an American National Patriotism. Enlighten me: how exactly is this OK when you objected so strongly to my pointing out that the reason "bugger" has become an euphemism for anal sex was that the Brits decided that ass-fucking was the Bulgarian national pastime? Or is it different when you do it???
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
One thing I found interesting was in a rant about name-calling, you used an insulting and demeaning version of the Tea Party's name - even though the movement is named after one of the first exhibition of an American National Patriotism.
Enlighten me: how exactly is this OK when you objected so strongly to my pointing out that the reason "bugger" has become an euphemism for anal sex was that the Brits decided that ass-f***ing was the Bulgarian national pastime? Or is it different when you do it???I've got to chime in on this one, for a good few weeks after the party hit the lime light many of them called themselves Tea Baggers, I myself having been largely incapacitated by laughter and college classes didn't have time to explain to them exactly what they were saying for a while. That and direct references to group efforts of the tea party as tea bagging nearly killed me. Knowing that at least a few of the people doing it were someone's grand parents and trying to spare some poor grandchild a good scaring I did enlighten a few of them myself. Once I got over the laughing fits.
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Oakman wrote:
Ravel is a queer as a three dollar bill - therefore since Michele Bachmann's husband makes his living proving to gays that it's something they can be cured of, he hates her guts.
Actually I formulated a disliking for Michele Bachmann long before I knew what her incompetent "pray-away-the-gay" quack husband did for a living. Homosexuality cannot be 'cured', and I could post many scientific journal articles supporting this, but that would be a waste of my time considering how intellectually lazy you are.
Oakman wrote:
Of course, at 17 and never having lived in the U.S., he actually knows little about American politics and less about Bachmann, but then he doesn't have to.
OK then, tell me what I am missing out on not being in such a privileged position as you are. Are there intelligent things Michele Bachmann says that miraculously never leave your country? Or do you have to be a pompous Randroid before they sound reasonable?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Are there intelligent things Michele Bachmann says that miraculously never leave your country?
No, she has nothing intelligent to add to our political discourse.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Or do you have to be a pompous Randroid before they sound reasonable?
Without a doubt.
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Or the soldiers, whi were there already, seeing as how it was British territory, were protecting the tea from smugglers whose intent was to destroy it because the tax on it had been reduced by the British govt in oreder to compete with the smuggled tea.
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We also seem to have a larger selection.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997True. I can't speak from first hand knowledge, I never looked at Weiner's wiener. But I heard it was on the larger side of average.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Oakman wrote:
One thing I found interesting was in a rant about name-calling, you used an insulting and demeaning version of the Tea Party's name - even though the movement is named after one of the first exhibition of an American National Patriotism.
Enlighten me: how exactly is this OK when you objected so strongly to my pointing out that the reason "bugger" has become an euphemism for anal sex was that the Brits decided that ass-f***ing was the Bulgarian national pastime? Or is it different when you do it???I've got to chime in on this one, for a good few weeks after the party hit the lime light many of them called themselves Tea Baggers, I myself having been largely incapacitated by laughter and college classes didn't have time to explain to them exactly what they were saying for a while. That and direct references to group efforts of the tea party as tea bagging nearly killed me. Knowing that at least a few of the people doing it were someone's grand parents and trying to spare some poor grandchild a good scaring I did enlighten a few of them myself. Once I got over the laughing fits.
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Oakman wrote:
Ravel is a queer as a three dollar bill
You are bordering on being offensive.
Oakman wrote:
husband makes his living proving to gays that it's something they can be cured of
Do you think he has succeeded? Do you therefore think it is a disease?
Oakman wrote:
Of course, at 17 and never having lived in the U.S., he actually knows little about American politics
Two issues, age is not a barrier to understanding and secondly we have access abroad to US media. (In fact there is a lot of US politics in the UK media, as well as a lot of US stuff on TV giving a generally wide familarity with US for those interested).
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Fat__Eric wrote:
You are bordering on being offensive.
Are you offended so easily? Life is short. Chill out.
Fat__Eric wrote:
age is not a barrier to understanding
When you grow up, you'll understand what i mean - if you ever grow up.
Fat__Eric wrote:
In fact there is a lot of US politics in the UK media,
Ravel lives in Australia :rolleyes:
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Oakman wrote:
Ravel is a queer as a three dollar bill - therefore since Michele Bachmann's husband makes his living proving to gays that it's something they can be cured of, he hates her guts.
Actually I formulated a disliking for Michele Bachmann long before I knew what her incompetent "pray-away-the-gay" quack husband did for a living. Homosexuality cannot be 'cured', and I could post many scientific journal articles supporting this, but that would be a waste of my time considering how intellectually lazy you are.
Oakman wrote:
Of course, at 17 and never having lived in the U.S., he actually knows little about American politics and less about Bachmann, but then he doesn't have to.
OK then, tell me what I am missing out on not being in such a privileged position as you are. Are there intelligent things Michele Bachmann says that miraculously never leave your country? Or do you have to be a pompous Randroid before they sound reasonable?
So much for your screams of girlish anguish when I addressed your post and your promises never to respond to anything I say until the end of the universe. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
tell me what I am missing out on not being in such a privileged position as you are
pussy. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I would welcome your pointing me to the study that proves that there is a gay gene. (I'm sure that an awful lot of parents would love to be able to test for gayness in the womb in order to rectify the error before it's too late.) Here's a clue: Researchers in this field, those without an agenda, believe that we are born just plain sexual - not homo or hetero. How our sex drive is channeled is a function of nurture at least as much as nature, except in very rare instances of some kind of endocrine malfunction where physiologically the subject is, in the vernacular, a chick with a dick or a stud with no pud.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Majerus wrote:
What are you talking about?
Why should I waste my time introducing you to CP? You aren't a programmer, you make no contribution to any forum except those where you post your far-left rants, and if you were are all interested in making a contribution to this site or actually being a member of the community, you'd know what I was talking about.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Wrong, but thanks for playing. We have consolation prizes for losers like you.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Fat__Eric wrote:
You are bordering on being offensive.
Are you offended so easily? Life is short. Chill out.
Fat__Eric wrote:
age is not a barrier to understanding
When you grow up, you'll understand what i mean - if you ever grow up.
Fat__Eric wrote:
In fact there is a lot of US politics in the UK media,
Ravel lives in Australia :rolleyes:
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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So much for your screams of girlish anguish when I addressed your post and your promises never to respond to anything I say until the end of the universe. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
tell me what I am missing out on not being in such a privileged position as you are
pussy. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I would welcome your pointing me to the study that proves that there is a gay gene. (I'm sure that an awful lot of parents would love to be able to test for gayness in the womb in order to rectify the error before it's too late.) Here's a clue: Researchers in this field, those without an agenda, believe that we are born just plain sexual - not homo or hetero. How our sex drive is channeled is a function of nurture at least as much as nature, except in very rare instances of some kind of endocrine malfunction where physiologically the subject is, in the vernacular, a chick with a dick or a stud with no pud.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
So much for your screams of girlish anguish when I addressed your post and your promises never to respond to anything I say until the end of the universe.
I've changed.
Oakman wrote:
I would welcome your pointing me to the study that proves that there is a gay gene.
Please point out where I said that there's a gay gene. Go on.
Oakman wrote:
(I'm sure that an awful lot of parents would love to be able to test for gayness in the womb in order to rectify the error before it's too late.)
That whole statement reeks of you failing genetics.
Oakman wrote:
Here's a clue: Researchers in this field, those without an agenda, believe that we are born just plain sexual - not homo or hetero. How our sex drive is channeled is a function of nurture at least as much as nature, except in very rare instances of some kind of endocrine malfunction where physiologically the subject is, in the vernacular, a chick with a dick or a stud with no pud.
Wow, you must be, like, a scientist or something. :rolleyes: Homosexuality has a genetic component. That is almost certain. Having older brothers increases the likelihood of homosexuality. There are innumerable factors contributing to it, but if there's one thing that history has shown, it's that it cannot be 'cured'.
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So much for your screams of girlish anguish when I addressed your post and your promises never to respond to anything I say until the end of the universe. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
tell me what I am missing out on not being in such a privileged position as you are
pussy. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I would welcome your pointing me to the study that proves that there is a gay gene. (I'm sure that an awful lot of parents would love to be able to test for gayness in the womb in order to rectify the error before it's too late.) Here's a clue: Researchers in this field, those without an agenda, believe that we are born just plain sexual - not homo or hetero. How our sex drive is channeled is a function of nurture at least as much as nature, except in very rare instances of some kind of endocrine malfunction where physiologically the subject is, in the vernacular, a chick with a dick or a stud with no pud.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
I take it that means you have no evidence to back up your belief in this matter. I personally have no idea whether it can be or not. But then, again, I don't have an agenda. Like I said, if you ever actually come up with proof that its genetic, not how you were raised, let me know. Until then. I'm through with this thread.
-- Bailey JM and Pillard RC (1991). A genetic study of male sexual orientation. Archives of General Psychiatry, 48:1089-1096. -- Mustanski BS, et al. (2005) A genomewide scan of male sexual orientation. Human Genetics, 116(4):272-8. -- Blanchard R (1997) Birth order and sibling sex ratio in homosexual versus heterosexual males and females. Annual Review of Sexual Research, 8:27-67.
Oakman wrote:
One thing I am not is a manic-depressive gay teenager who desperately needs to believe that his IQ makes him a worthwhile human being, in spite of all the indications to the contrary.
Oakman wrote:
Do you really think your parents wouldn't have aborted you if they knew you were going to end up like you have?
It's clear that you really hate gay people. Let me guess: your son turned out gay so you disowned him.