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wizardzz wrote:
Why are Australians and British so obsessed with American politics?
Well, I hate to say it, but your politicians recently brought your country to its knees and caused major upheavals on the world stock markets, affecting the pensions of millions. Maybe that played the tiniest part in it - until the recent standoff I hadn't even heard of the Tea Party. And yes, Europe is just as bad with European leaders going on holiday while their economies were in melt-down, so there are faults on all sides.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Well, I hate to say it, but your politicians recently brought your country to its knees and caused major upheavals on the world stock markets, affecting the pensions of millions.
I'll reiterate; you can't vote for them and there's little more annoying than a foreigner telling us who should lead us. Nobody has a problem with the U.S. financial system when there's growth and it's working, but ohhh shit, lost money, now everyone's interested. Economies are cyclical, and many countries have gone through periods of lost decades, this will pass and everyone will go back to criticizing politician's tastes in mistresses eventually. I do see your point, but I'm learning to stop caring about who's in charge in other countries that I have no influence or control over, (China), and it's making me appreciate more and more of what I have here. Just a little rant there.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
comparing Gordon Brown to the failed painter one doesn't bother us in the UK
Yeah, but Maggie is too easy, Blair too inconsequential, but here's Cameron[^], if that's more appropriate (I keep forgetting his name and having to look it up.)
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Say what you like about Maggie, but she had balls. Unfortunately, the legacy of Blair will last for generations - he's part of the reason why our country is completely screwed. Here's Cameron - are you sure it's Cameron. Him and his identikit deputy Nick Clegg are virtual twins - like Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Well, I hate to say it, but your politicians recently brought your country to its knees and caused major upheavals on the world stock markets, affecting the pensions of millions.
I'll reiterate; you can't vote for them and there's little more annoying than a foreigner telling us who should lead us. Nobody has a problem with the U.S. financial system when there's growth and it's working, but ohhh shit, lost money, now everyone's interested. Economies are cyclical, and many countries have gone through periods of lost decades, this will pass and everyone will go back to criticizing politician's tastes in mistresses eventually. I do see your point, but I'm learning to stop caring about who's in charge in other countries that I have no influence or control over, (China), and it's making me appreciate more and more of what I have here. Just a little rant there.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
you can't vote for them and there's little more annoying than a foreigner telling us who should lead us
I hope you aren't including me in that statement. Apart from Obama (I assume he's standing again), I have no idea who's running.
wizardzz wrote:
Nobody has a problem with the U.S. financial system when there's growth and it's working, but ohhh sh*t, lost money, now everyone's interested.
Of course they are interested. It affects them directly. Humans are selfish animals and to pretend otherwise is futile, and that's why people care about American politics. If what happened in Europe was in any way consequential, you'd care what was happening over here.
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Say what you like about Maggie, but she had balls. Unfortunately, the legacy of Blair will last for generations - he's part of the reason why our country is completely screwed. Here's Cameron - are you sure it's Cameron. Him and his identikit deputy Nick Clegg are virtual twins - like Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Except that the Tea Party is more like an apocalyptic cult than a political party. Not all politicians are proud of being ignorant and stupid or wave loaded handguns at journalists' chests.
And the implication being that all Tea Party persons must be 'proud of being ignorant and stupid or wave loaded handguns at journalists' chests'? And you know this because you personally know them all or are you being ignorant and self-imposing?
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wizardzz wrote:
you can't vote for them and there's little more annoying than a foreigner telling us who should lead us
I hope you aren't including me in that statement. Apart from Obama (I assume he's standing again), I have no idea who's running.
wizardzz wrote:
Nobody has a problem with the U.S. financial system when there's growth and it's working, but ohhh sh*t, lost money, now everyone's interested.
Of course they are interested. It affects them directly. Humans are selfish animals and to pretend otherwise is futile, and that's why people care about American politics. If what happened in Europe was in any way consequential, you'd care what was happening over here.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I hope you aren't including me in that statement. Apart from Obama (I assume he's standing again), I have no idea who's running.
I wasn't talking about you. ;)
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
If what happened in Europe was in any way consequential, you'd care what was happening over here.
Sadly, the more volatility there is, the more trading there is, the more trading there is, the higher my teams revenue, the higher my teams revenue, the bigger my monthly bonus. In a weird way, as it stands, I gain personal financial benefit from good or bad world events. I made a few bucks more than normal when OBL was killed.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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wizardzz wrote:
you can't vote for them and there's little more annoying than a foreigner telling us who should lead us
I hope you aren't including me in that statement. Apart from Obama (I assume he's standing again), I have no idea who's running.
wizardzz wrote:
Nobody has a problem with the U.S. financial system when there's growth and it's working, but ohhh sh*t, lost money, now everyone's interested.
Of course they are interested. It affects them directly. Humans are selfish animals and to pretend otherwise is futile, and that's why people care about American politics. If what happened in Europe was in any way consequential, you'd care what was happening over here.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
If what happened in Europe was in any way consequential, you'd care what was happening over here.
Your mileage may vary, but the way I read the tea-leaves is that the only thing that will be able to avert an upcoming global financial collapse is the one in five chance the the U.S. will be able to weather what happens to the EU when the PIIGS finally descend into bankruptcy.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Why is it called the tea party? It isnt named after the Boston Tea Party is it, where a load of traders dressed up as Indians and threw some tea bags into the St Lawrence?
============================== Nothing to say.
And, they were no where near the St. Lawrence River.
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And the implication being that all Tea Party persons must be 'proud of being ignorant and stupid or wave loaded handguns at journalists' chests'? And you know this because you personally know them all or are you being ignorant and self-imposing?
Tim Carmichael wrote:
And the implication being that all Tea Party persons must be 'proud of being ignorant and stupid or wave loaded handguns at journalists' chests'?
Well, given how heavily Michele Bachmann is lauded by the Tea Party, and given the fact that she is stupendously, catastrophically brainless ... yes.
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Tim Carmichael wrote:
And the implication being that all Tea Party persons must be 'proud of being ignorant and stupid or wave loaded handguns at journalists' chests'?
Well, given how heavily Michele Bachmann is lauded by the Tea Party, and given the fact that she is stupendously, catastrophically brainless ... yes.
So.. Michelle Bachmann in the only Tea Party politician then? Read the FULL message.. don't be selective. Have you met EVERY Tea Party politician or are you making potentially slanderous statements about people whom you've never met?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
If what happened in Europe was in any way consequential, you'd care what was happening over here.
Your mileage may vary, but the way I read the tea-leaves is that the only thing that will be able to avert an upcoming global financial collapse is the one in five chance the the U.S. will be able to weather what happens to the EU when the PIIGS finally descend into bankruptcy.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
when the PIIGS finally descend into bankruptcy.
When???? There's only political trickery and jiggery-pokery thinly disguising the fact that they went bankrupt years ago. Ironically (given how this thread started), the problem is Germany. They are artificially keeping the Euro up - if they were to devolve their currency then the Euro countries could descend to a level at which they could cope financially.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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So.. Michelle Bachmann in the only Tea Party politician then? Read the FULL message.. don't be selective. Have you met EVERY Tea Party politician or are you making potentially slanderous statements about people whom you've never met?
I haven't met every Tea Party politician, obviously. But you can judge a person by the company they keep, and when that company includes Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry . . . X|
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I haven't met every Tea Party politician, obviously. But you can judge a person by the company they keep, and when that company includes Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry . . . X|
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
But you can judge a person by the company they keep
And you keep company with Oakman via a Fat_Boy proxy... what does that say?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Say what you like about Maggie
I thought Maggie was great - for exactly all the reason that I knew there'd be thousands of images of her as Hitler.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
Oakman wrote:
I thought Maggie was g
Me too - she was the last real man in number 10.
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Oakman wrote:
when the PIIGS finally descend into bankruptcy.
When???? There's only political trickery and jiggery-pokery thinly disguising the fact that they went bankrupt years ago. Ironically (given how this thread started), the problem is Germany. They are artificially keeping the Euro up - if they were to devolve their currency then the Euro countries could descend to a level at which they could cope financially.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
When????
You're right. I should have said, "acknowledged bankruptcy."
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
the problem is Germany
That's what you Brits always say. ;)
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
the Euro countries could descend to a level at which they could cope financially.
'Twould be an interesting time (in the Chinese curse sense) if that were to happen. Do you think the EU could survive the crash of the Euro? (btw: I do know that the Eurozone and the EU aren't the same thing.)
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
But you can judge a person by the company they keep
And you keep company with Oakman via a Fat_Boy proxy... what does that say?
Tim Carmichael wrote:
And you keep company with Oakman via a Fat_Boy proxy... what does that say?
It says you're unable to make any relevant point.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
When????
You're right. I should have said, "acknowledged bankruptcy."
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
the problem is Germany
That's what you Brits always say. ;)
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
the Euro countries could descend to a level at which they could cope financially.
'Twould be an interesting time (in the Chinese curse sense) if that were to happen. Do you think the EU could survive the crash of the Euro? (btw: I do know that the Eurozone and the EU aren't the same thing.)
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
I don't see how the EU can survive either way. Either the PIGS are going to drag Germany down or the German people are going to force their politicians to pull out. As a social experiment, the EU has failed. Before this is seen as a Brit bashing Europe, it is worth pointing out that I spent a great deal of time working abroad, and I worked in countries such as France, Luxembourg and Poland. Their is a lot to like about these countries, and perhaps the politicians should actually celebrate their differences. (And yes, I have also worked in the States, but that was in San Francisco which I do realise bears very little relationship to the rest of the USA, but I did love the chilli dogs you could get there)
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I don't see how the EU can survive either way. Either the PIGS are going to drag Germany down or the German people are going to force their politicians to pull out. As a social experiment, the EU has failed. Before this is seen as a Brit bashing Europe, it is worth pointing out that I spent a great deal of time working abroad, and I worked in countries such as France, Luxembourg and Poland. Their is a lot to like about these countries, and perhaps the politicians should actually celebrate their differences. (And yes, I have also worked in the States, but that was in San Francisco which I do realise bears very little relationship to the rest of the USA, but I did love the chilli dogs you could get there)
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
As a social experiment, the EU has failed.
As I watched the EU grow from this side of the Atlantic, I wondered more than once what wisdom there was in looking to the east. I never suspected how weak the south was. I once read that the primary purpose of the EU was to make sure that France and Germany were too closely intertwined to go to war with each other again.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
that was in San Francisco which I do realise bears very little relationship to the rest of the USA, but I did love the chilli dogs you could get there)
Problem is there's a very large Vietnamese population there - so you can't be sure that the chili dog you are eating wasn't someone's pet yesterday.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Ravel is still a child
Seventeen is hardly a child, except in an arbitrary legal way. And he needs to stop saying that Eric is my boyfriend... *grumble grumble*
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Seventeen is hardly a child, except in an arbitrary legal way.
Don't take this the wrong way, but 17 is an age that is blissfully ignorant of being a child. Seriously don't take it the wrong way but here is why (Disclaimer: Not true for all 17 year olds. Heck some 13 year olds are forced to grow up wayyyyy to fast due to family/social circumstances) At 17 you do not have to worry about the electric bill. At 17 you do not have to worry about your daughter comming home and telling you she is pregnent (because if you have a daughter that can get pregnent and you are 17.... ahh WTF happened?) At 17 your biggest dillema is how to get Katie from Study Hall to notice you At 17 you have been exposed to AT MOST 4 presidential elections of which 1 you MAYBE were able to follow At 17 you have paid in as much taxes in yoru entire life as some people on these forums have in one month (Let me point out some advantages though) At 17 you have much more potential than the majority of the population in the world At 17 the amount of choices you are given and "Allowed" to make is astronomical (scary even) But maybe the most important, At 17 claiming you are not a child to those that are twice and even thrice your age makes you sound even more like a child. I do not believe I am a child. But if I was doing something stupid and someone twice my age (note I am 31 so this would be a 62 year old) pointed it out and said it was childesh I would not come back with "I am 31, thats not a child!". Why? (gonna blow your mind here and refer back to my disclaimer above) Because at some point we realize it has nothing to do with age. It is about what you say and do. How you respond to others. A 62 year old has every right to call me a child. In their eyes I am a child. I was in diapers when they were over a decade into their career. The non "childesh" response is to comment against why they are saying I am a child or acting childesh. For example, a 62 year old may say I am childesh because I don't go in to see the doctor for my annual check ups. I should respond with either "Healthy as a Studding bull, no need" (to which they would say Hmph exactly. you are ignorant) or I could say "Why is it childesh to not go see the doctor" etc. But most deffinately not "Dude I am 31. That is not a child. I know exactly what I am doing." End Rant Start Summary: Not trying to ridicule you. Hoping you take a little a way from this. Obvi
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Say what you like about Maggie, but she had balls. Unfortunately, the legacy of Blair will last for generations - he's part of the reason why our country is completely screwed. Here's Cameron - are you sure it's Cameron. Him and his identikit deputy Nick Clegg are virtual twins - like Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Say what you like about Maggie,
I can't think of anything I like about Maggie.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Unfortunately, the legacy of Blair will last for generations - he's part of the reason why our country is completely screwed.
And she's the other part. What a winning team.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Here's Cameron - are you sure it's Cameron. Him and his identikit deputy Nick Clegg are virtual twins - like Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.
You got that wrong. Cameron, Milliband and Clegg - Tweedledum, Tweedledummer, Tweedledummest. Welcome to the world of professional politicians. What experience do they bring (other than lobbying, advising, speech writing, arse-licking and back-stabbing) to their roles as leaders of a country? Corporate PR and Journalism. Well, whoop-de-doo!
Truth, Justice ... or the American way? - Trad.
