it's new year's eve now...
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it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!!
Shengqian Ji wrote: every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party. I remember the days when this was the case in Russia... That was horrible. Well, mostly it was just boring. People learned to ignore it though and go and have a good time without much support from TV. I hope you still have a great New Year despite the annoying propaganda. :)
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Shengqian Ji wrote: it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!! But... you're in China. Isn't that kinda expected?
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !Expected perhaps, but not wanted I assume. :) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.
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Expected perhaps, but not wanted I assume. :) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.
Perhaps not, but given the local, probably not the most healthest idea to express... sort of like critizing the current leaders here.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
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I just listened to the old soviet anthem. I always liked it and I associate it with the best hockey ever1. I now found a translation of the text, and it doesn't sound so nice anymore. 1 Sorry Canadians, the big red machine (the original machine, not the Detroit copy) was the 8th wonder of the world. ;) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: the best hockey ever Right on. :) Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I now found a translation of the text, and it doesn't sound so nice anymore. LOL. The interesting thing is that after an attempt to change the anthem to something else for a few years Russia had finally switched back to the same old anthem music with new words. Now everyone knows what the anthem sounds like, but no one knows the words to it. :)
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it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!!
Shengqian Ji wrote: it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!! Well, at least you can complain about it without being drug from your home and imprisoned. I suppose that represents some kind of progress. I'm not too certain that will be true in my country for very much longer.:~ "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Expected perhaps, but not wanted I assume. :) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.
Pretty ridiculous. I guess they're trying to drown out the Western civilization New Year, because the Chinese New Year is on a different date. Maybe we should have Bush's speeches on the "axis of evil" broadcast nonstop during THEIR New Year (not that China was mentioned as an axis of evil, but internally, I bet their still on the list). And I'm not surprised, after China shut down 3300 Internet cafes because of a fire in ONE of them (the gov't probably set it themselves just to have an excuse to do this). Funny how governments really don't like the people to make choices for themselves. Unfortunately, the same can be said about a lot of decisions the US gov't makes. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Shengqian Ji wrote: it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!! Well, at least you can complain about it without being drug from your home and imprisoned. I suppose that represents some kind of progress. I'm not too certain that will be true in my country for very much longer.:~ "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
I'm not too certain that will be true in my country for very much longer. Amen. Did you hear about the guy in Oregon (or was it Washington) that got put in jail for making a joke in a bar about God creating a new "burning Bush"? (or something like that). Some truck driver overhead this guy, called the police, and now he's in jail for several years. Welcome back to the McCarthy era. And even worse, Bush's speeches are reminiscent of Hitler's regarding national security, the "invisible enemy", etc. Two more years, then maybe we can vote him out of office! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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I'm not too certain that will be true in my country for very much longer. Amen. Did you hear about the guy in Oregon (or was it Washington) that got put in jail for making a joke in a bar about God creating a new "burning Bush"? (or something like that). Some truck driver overhead this guy, called the police, and now he's in jail for several years. Welcome back to the McCarthy era. And even worse, Bush's speeches are reminiscent of Hitler's regarding national security, the "invisible enemy", etc. Two more years, then maybe we can vote him out of office! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka MuraokaMarc Clifton wrote: Two more years, then maybe we can vote him out of office! You wish. In two years, we'll either all be glowing little green critters, or GWB will have declared himself President for Life due to the Ongoing State of Emergency. But more than likely, the Democrats won't plank up anyone that is willing to stand up to GWB. Leiberman? Gee, and thought Dole was a lame choice. Unless someone pops out of the woodwork, we're going to be stuck with GWB for 6 more years. Gore would have won if he had ran again and just relaxed a bit. Guess he's scared of being pulled out of his house, too.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Two more years, then maybe we can vote him out of office! You wish. In two years, we'll either all be glowing little green critters, or GWB will have declared himself President for Life due to the Ongoing State of Emergency. But more than likely, the Democrats won't plank up anyone that is willing to stand up to GWB. Leiberman? Gee, and thought Dole was a lame choice. Unless someone pops out of the woodwork, we're going to be stuck with GWB for 6 more years. Gore would have won if he had ran again and just relaxed a bit. Guess he's scared of being pulled out of his house, too.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !I don't understand this. No many American citizens around here seems to like GWB's policies very much. Even the conservative-minded here are drawing parallels with Hitler. Why does Bush have such a massive rating then (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? Is it that the people don't really care as long as they have the economic freedom? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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Marc Clifton wrote: Two more years, then maybe we can vote him out of office! You wish. In two years, we'll either all be glowing little green critters, or GWB will have declared himself President for Life due to the Ongoing State of Emergency. But more than likely, the Democrats won't plank up anyone that is willing to stand up to GWB. Leiberman? Gee, and thought Dole was a lame choice. Unless someone pops out of the woodwork, we're going to be stuck with GWB for 6 more years. Gore would have won if he had ran again and just relaxed a bit. Guess he's scared of being pulled out of his house, too.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !Bitterman wrote: But more than likely, the Democrats won't plank up anyone that is willing to stand up to GWB. No matter what side you are on, I think this is agreed to right now. And no matter what side you are on I think this is not good for the US. Bitterman wrote: Gore would have won if he had ran again and just relaxed a bit. IMO this is a democratic dream. He could not relaxe and still carry the banner Clinton left him. Watched a show a few days ago about military blunders by the US during the Gulf War. It pointed out how much was attributed to Chenny's meddling. With those highlighted I feel he may be calling to many of the shots right now (or at least heavily influencing GW.) Chenny is the one I do not trust. "I will find a new sig someday."
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Shengqian Ji wrote: it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!! Well, at least you can complain about it without being drug from your home and imprisoned. I suppose that represents some kind of progress. I'm not too certain that will be true in my country for very much longer.:~ "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
It is a shame. I think even considering the lurking dangers, the administration is paranoid. Also, I do not still understand how North Korea (with a nuclear programme against a treaty with US, and having an untested, yet developed missile that can deliver it to US west coast) is a lesser threat than Iraq? Rumsfeld says that he is building missile shield for this. Does the shield discriminate between an Iraqi missile and N. Korean missile or what? The arguments don't fit in. I hope someone can clear my doubts. Bill O'rielly was saying on Fox that Saddam funds Hamas, and once Saddam is out, Hamas will no longer be there, and there will be a chance of peace in Middle East. Is it not what we call wishful thinking or living in fool's paradise? The Palestine problem was there even before Saddam became leader of Iraq. I believe Palestinians will keep finding new supporters. Is FOX news getting funded by the US govt. for putting out these speculations? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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I am English my Parents are Polish, when I first visited Poland c 1970 it was very similar there, now it is different, they will be joining the EEC in 2004. The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. But one could start a new thread on if becoming westerinsed is a great improvement? See the comments on Bush in this thread.
Ted Ferenc wrote: The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. i believe every day does :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!!
I am English my Parents are Polish, when I first visited Poland c 1970 it was very similar there, now it is different, they will be joining the EEC in 2004. The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. But one could start a new thread on if becoming westerinsed is a great improvement? See the comments on Bush in this thread.
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I don't understand this. No many American citizens around here seems to like GWB's policies very much. Even the conservative-minded here are drawing parallels with Hitler. Why does Bush have such a massive rating then (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? Is it that the people don't really care as long as they have the economic freedom? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? For a large part the CP crowd is not typical of the US. Far greater liberalistic views among the CPians than the bulk of the US. Also those of us who are conservative (me included) feel he was hands down the only option compared to Gore who having been with Clinton for that long could not have been acceptable. Now back to Bush. I generally go not disagree with his policies. I very much disagree with how he presents them especially in speeches that have very belligerent rhetoric in then. This is not called for. In trying to show resolve he comes across as a war monger with no out Iraq and others. I also think Chenny was a very bad choice and feel he is helping to drive things that he failed to do 10 years ago vs Bush avenging his dad. But that is just my feelings (no real fact.) "I will find a new sig someday."
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I don't understand this. No many American citizens around here seems to like GWB's policies very much. Even the conservative-minded here are drawing parallels with Hitler. Why does Bush have such a massive rating then (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? Is it that the people don't really care as long as they have the economic freedom? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
I think the crowd here is a small subset of opinion. Outside of the programming world I do not know of a single person who does not support bush. More people are willing to give up some civil liberties to make sure the country is safer. I think people understand things have changed in some way. I disagree with the Hitler comments whole heartedly. Take away my rights to carry a weapon, take away that I can complain here about the democrats or the republicans and then I'll consider the comparison. However, in my opinion it's the democrats that seem more "tyranical". They want to tell us how to raise our children (providing birth control, etc in schools because we don't know enough to give it to them ourselves), who we can have memorials to (controversy in the south about a civil war memorial for confederate soldiers), which doctors we see, etc. Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country.
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Bitterman wrote: But more than likely, the Democrats won't plank up anyone that is willing to stand up to GWB. No matter what side you are on, I think this is agreed to right now. And no matter what side you are on I think this is not good for the US. Bitterman wrote: Gore would have won if he had ran again and just relaxed a bit. IMO this is a democratic dream. He could not relaxe and still carry the banner Clinton left him. Watched a show a few days ago about military blunders by the US during the Gulf War. It pointed out how much was attributed to Chenny's meddling. With those highlighted I feel he may be calling to many of the shots right now (or at least heavily influencing GW.) Chenny is the one I do not trust. "I will find a new sig someday."
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: IMO this is a democratic dream. He could not relaxe and still carry the banner Clinton left him. Maybe Hillary would run? That would be entertaining - she can trot out the Vast Right-Wing Republican Conspericy again. :)
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
I think the crowd here is a small subset of opinion. Outside of the programming world I do not know of a single person who does not support bush. More people are willing to give up some civil liberties to make sure the country is safer. I think people understand things have changed in some way. I disagree with the Hitler comments whole heartedly. Take away my rights to carry a weapon, take away that I can complain here about the democrats or the republicans and then I'll consider the comparison. However, in my opinion it's the democrats that seem more "tyranical". They want to tell us how to raise our children (providing birth control, etc in schools because we don't know enough to give it to them ourselves), who we can have memorials to (controversy in the south about a civil war memorial for confederate soldiers), which doctors we see, etc. Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country.
"People willing to give up freedom for a little safety, deserve neither freedom nor safety." --Ben Franklin.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
I just listened to the old soviet anthem. I always liked it and I associate it with the best hockey ever1. I now found a translation of the text, and it doesn't sound so nice anymore. 1 Sorry Canadians, the big red machine (the original machine, not the Detroit copy) was the 8th wonder of the world. ;) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: the big red machine (the original machine, not the Detroit copy) was the 8th wonder of the world. Except in 1980!!!!! Read all about it! [^] ;P ;P ;P Mike Mullikin :beer:
The goal of any programmer is to build something that will last at least until he's finished building it. - - Anonymous
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I think the crowd here is a small subset of opinion. Outside of the programming world I do not know of a single person who does not support bush. More people are willing to give up some civil liberties to make sure the country is safer. I think people understand things have changed in some way. I disagree with the Hitler comments whole heartedly. Take away my rights to carry a weapon, take away that I can complain here about the democrats or the republicans and then I'll consider the comparison. However, in my opinion it's the democrats that seem more "tyranical". They want to tell us how to raise our children (providing birth control, etc in schools because we don't know enough to give it to them ourselves), who we can have memorials to (controversy in the south about a civil war memorial for confederate soldiers), which doctors we see, etc. Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country.
Jarrod Marshall wrote: Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country. Correct. As for the Hitler comparison, I feel it is how you take it. Democracy is very fragile and it would not take that much to repeat history. I do not think the average German in 1930 was evil, but look what happened. So back to my soap box and my statements of get involved and keep involved. With a strong citizen population letting their representatives know how the citizens feel it will not repeat. "I will find a new sig someday."
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Ted Ferenc wrote: The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. i believe every day does :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: i believe every day does Aye, that it does. Every day I can still get out of bed and totter to the bathroom and see that I'm still breathing, is a good day. What's Latin for "Sieze the day"?
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !