it's new year's eve now...
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Shengqian Ji wrote: it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!! Well, at least you can complain about it without being drug from your home and imprisoned. I suppose that represents some kind of progress. I'm not too certain that will be true in my country for very much longer.:~ "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
It is a shame. I think even considering the lurking dangers, the administration is paranoid. Also, I do not still understand how North Korea (with a nuclear programme against a treaty with US, and having an untested, yet developed missile that can deliver it to US west coast) is a lesser threat than Iraq? Rumsfeld says that he is building missile shield for this. Does the shield discriminate between an Iraqi missile and N. Korean missile or what? The arguments don't fit in. I hope someone can clear my doubts. Bill O'rielly was saying on Fox that Saddam funds Hamas, and once Saddam is out, Hamas will no longer be there, and there will be a chance of peace in Middle East. Is it not what we call wishful thinking or living in fool's paradise? The Palestine problem was there even before Saddam became leader of Iraq. I believe Palestinians will keep finding new supporters. Is FOX news getting funded by the US govt. for putting out these speculations? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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I am English my Parents are Polish, when I first visited Poland c 1970 it was very similar there, now it is different, they will be joining the EEC in 2004. The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. But one could start a new thread on if becoming westerinsed is a great improvement? See the comments on Bush in this thread.
Ted Ferenc wrote: The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. i believe every day does :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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it's new year's eve now.every programme on tv is speaking in praise of the communist party.horrible!!!
I am English my Parents are Polish, when I first visited Poland c 1970 it was very similar there, now it is different, they will be joining the EEC in 2004. The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. But one could start a new thread on if becoming westerinsed is a great improvement? See the comments on Bush in this thread.
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I don't understand this. No many American citizens around here seems to like GWB's policies very much. Even the conservative-minded here are drawing parallels with Hitler. Why does Bush have such a massive rating then (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? Is it that the people don't really care as long as they have the economic freedom? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? For a large part the CP crowd is not typical of the US. Far greater liberalistic views among the CPians than the bulk of the US. Also those of us who are conservative (me included) feel he was hands down the only option compared to Gore who having been with Clinton for that long could not have been acceptable. Now back to Bush. I generally go not disagree with his policies. I very much disagree with how he presents them especially in speeches that have very belligerent rhetoric in then. This is not called for. In trying to show resolve he comes across as a war monger with no out Iraq and others. I also think Chenny was a very bad choice and feel he is helping to drive things that he failed to do 10 years ago vs Bush avenging his dad. But that is just my feelings (no real fact.) "I will find a new sig someday."
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I don't understand this. No many American citizens around here seems to like GWB's policies very much. Even the conservative-minded here are drawing parallels with Hitler. Why does Bush have such a massive rating then (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? Is it that the people don't really care as long as they have the economic freedom? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
I think the crowd here is a small subset of opinion. Outside of the programming world I do not know of a single person who does not support bush. More people are willing to give up some civil liberties to make sure the country is safer. I think people understand things have changed in some way. I disagree with the Hitler comments whole heartedly. Take away my rights to carry a weapon, take away that I can complain here about the democrats or the republicans and then I'll consider the comparison. However, in my opinion it's the democrats that seem more "tyranical". They want to tell us how to raise our children (providing birth control, etc in schools because we don't know enough to give it to them ourselves), who we can have memorials to (controversy in the south about a civil war memorial for confederate soldiers), which doctors we see, etc. Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country.
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Bitterman wrote: But more than likely, the Democrats won't plank up anyone that is willing to stand up to GWB. No matter what side you are on, I think this is agreed to right now. And no matter what side you are on I think this is not good for the US. Bitterman wrote: Gore would have won if he had ran again and just relaxed a bit. IMO this is a democratic dream. He could not relaxe and still carry the banner Clinton left him. Watched a show a few days ago about military blunders by the US during the Gulf War. It pointed out how much was attributed to Chenny's meddling. With those highlighted I feel he may be calling to many of the shots right now (or at least heavily influencing GW.) Chenny is the one I do not trust. "I will find a new sig someday."
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: IMO this is a democratic dream. He could not relaxe and still carry the banner Clinton left him. Maybe Hillary would run? That would be entertaining - she can trot out the Vast Right-Wing Republican Conspericy again. :)
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
I think the crowd here is a small subset of opinion. Outside of the programming world I do not know of a single person who does not support bush. More people are willing to give up some civil liberties to make sure the country is safer. I think people understand things have changed in some way. I disagree with the Hitler comments whole heartedly. Take away my rights to carry a weapon, take away that I can complain here about the democrats or the republicans and then I'll consider the comparison. However, in my opinion it's the democrats that seem more "tyranical". They want to tell us how to raise our children (providing birth control, etc in schools because we don't know enough to give it to them ourselves), who we can have memorials to (controversy in the south about a civil war memorial for confederate soldiers), which doctors we see, etc. Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country.
"People willing to give up freedom for a little safety, deserve neither freedom nor safety." --Ben Franklin.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
I just listened to the old soviet anthem. I always liked it and I associate it with the best hockey ever1. I now found a translation of the text, and it doesn't sound so nice anymore. 1 Sorry Canadians, the big red machine (the original machine, not the Detroit copy) was the 8th wonder of the world. ;) -- Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: the big red machine (the original machine, not the Detroit copy) was the 8th wonder of the world. Except in 1980!!!!! Read all about it! [^] ;P ;P ;P Mike Mullikin :beer:
The goal of any programmer is to build something that will last at least until he's finished building it. - - Anonymous
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I think the crowd here is a small subset of opinion. Outside of the programming world I do not know of a single person who does not support bush. More people are willing to give up some civil liberties to make sure the country is safer. I think people understand things have changed in some way. I disagree with the Hitler comments whole heartedly. Take away my rights to carry a weapon, take away that I can complain here about the democrats or the republicans and then I'll consider the comparison. However, in my opinion it's the democrats that seem more "tyranical". They want to tell us how to raise our children (providing birth control, etc in schools because we don't know enough to give it to them ourselves), who we can have memorials to (controversy in the south about a civil war memorial for confederate soldiers), which doctors we see, etc. Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country.
Jarrod Marshall wrote: Sorry, soap box. I know many disagree- that's wonderful. That's why this is a free country. Correct. As for the Hitler comparison, I feel it is how you take it. Democracy is very fragile and it would not take that much to repeat history. I do not think the average German in 1930 was evil, but look what happened. So back to my soap box and my statements of get involved and keep involved. With a strong citizen population letting their representatives know how the citizens feel it will not repeat. "I will find a new sig someday."
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Ted Ferenc wrote: The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. i believe every day does :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: i believe every day does Aye, that it does. Every day I can still get out of bed and totter to the bathroom and see that I'm still breathing, is a good day. What's Latin for "Sieze the day"?
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
"People willing to give up freedom for a little safety, deserve neither freedom nor safety." --Ben Franklin.
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !Bitterman wrote: "People willing to give up freedom for a little safety, deserve neither freedom nor safety." --Ben Franklin. True now as it was then! "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote: IMO this is a democratic dream. He could not relaxe and still carry the banner Clinton left him. Maybe Hillary would run? That would be entertaining - she can trot out the Vast Right-Wing Republican Conspericy again. :)
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !Not in the soap box so I must refrain. Oh well.:-D "I will find a new sig someday."
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Michael A. Barnhart wrote: IMO this is a democratic dream. He could not relaxe and still carry the banner Clinton left him. Maybe Hillary would run? That would be entertaining - she can trot out the Vast Right-Wing Republican Conspericy again. :)
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 !Not to mention the slick real estate scams she could cover up much better from the White House.:) "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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I don't understand this. No many American citizens around here seems to like GWB's policies very much. Even the conservative-minded here are drawing parallels with Hitler. Why does Bush have such a massive rating then (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? Is it that the people don't really care as long as they have the economic freedom? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America? Bingo!! From my point of view the "average" American on CP is considerably more liberal (and anti-Bush) than any Americans I know personally. Mike Mullikin :beer:
The goal of any programmer is to build something that will last at least until he's finished building it. - - Anonymous
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Ted Ferenc wrote: The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. i believe every day does :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: i believe every day does Only if we make it so. Let go for a better day.:-D "I will find a new sig someday."
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I am English my Parents are Polish, when I first visited Poland c 1970 it was very similar there, now it is different, they will be joining the EEC in 2004. The New Year always brings hope and the possibility of change. But one could start a new thread on if becoming westerinsed is a great improvement? See the comments on Bush in this thread.
Ted Ferenc wrote: But one could start a new thread on if becoming westerinsed is a great improvement? I don't think becoming "westernized" is the point. I think giving people a chance to make their own choices about their lives and government is the key. Mike Mullikin :beer:
The goal of any programmer is to build something that will last at least until he's finished building it. - - Anonymous
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Thomas George wrote: i believe every day does Only if we make it so. Let go for a better day.:-D "I will find a new sig someday."
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: Only if we make it so That is so true.
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Not to mention the slick real estate scams she could cover up much better from the White House.:) "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
Nothing compared to Enron. Chaney got the court to squash the General Account Office's lawsuit to look into his part of it. Hillary didn't even get that. She's a wanna-be scammer, needs to take lessons from The Master :)
"Perhaps the truth is less interesting than the facts?" -- Amy Weiss, RIAA's Senior Vice President of Communications.
It's the new math! 421 == 156 ! -
I don't understand this. No many American citizens around here seems to like GWB's policies very much. Even the conservative-minded here are drawing parallels with Hitler. Why does Bush have such a massive rating then (or is it that CP crowd is not representative of America)? Is it that the people don't really care as long as they have the economic freedom? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
I still support the little guy. I'll never have a leader I agree with 100%, they will all make errors, and if I recall it's not the president who inacts all the laws, but has to be voted on by Congress which is made up of Rep. and Dem. people are scared, and the most logical place to point the finger is the current leader, as though he actually has complete power. Comparing him with Hitler if a bunch of [soapbox expletive here]! He doesn't have answers to homeland security. Nobody does right now. So its easy to pick apart whatever he's trying to do. I don't hear anyone else raising their hands or taking the lead with some great new ideas. regarding foreign policy. It's always been US policy to further secure our position as THE globally dominant power. Just like any other nation who has the ability to do it would, we try to gain control over resources, whether through economic means, or playing off of local political troubles. Personally, I have not lost any freedoms to do what i want, yet. When I do, I'll be pissed off, and try to do something about it. [but Brian that will be too late?] I have a life to enjoy, friends, family, blah, blah, blah... I'm not going to give that up to fret about someone else, unless they are close to me, or I can actually make a difference fairly quickly. Sorry. My life is short. BW "If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life." - Confucius
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It is a shame. I think even considering the lurking dangers, the administration is paranoid. Also, I do not still understand how North Korea (with a nuclear programme against a treaty with US, and having an untested, yet developed missile that can deliver it to US west coast) is a lesser threat than Iraq? Rumsfeld says that he is building missile shield for this. Does the shield discriminate between an Iraqi missile and N. Korean missile or what? The arguments don't fit in. I hope someone can clear my doubts. Bill O'rielly was saying on Fox that Saddam funds Hamas, and once Saddam is out, Hamas will no longer be there, and there will be a chance of peace in Middle East. Is it not what we call wishful thinking or living in fool's paradise? The Palestine problem was there even before Saddam became leader of Iraq. I believe Palestinians will keep finding new supporters. Is FOX news getting funded by the US govt. for putting out these speculations? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: Is FOX news getting funded by the US govt. for putting out these speculations? Nah, just a slow news day. Like I always say, you have to be very, VERY careful listening to US mass media. Here is a case where the "journalist" O'Rielly makes a statement about his opinion. His opinion is NOT news. Mike Mullikin :beer:
The goal of any programmer is to build something that will last at least until he's finished building it. - - Anonymous