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  • H hairy_hats

    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases

    We're older and wiser now.

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    Mehdi Gholam
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    Hehe, I just said the same.

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    • N NormDroid

      5. People are busy with work.

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      Brady Kelly
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      Pretty much my excuse.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

        modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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        Tom Deketelaere
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        Pfff no time, haven't even installed 2010 yet (still on 2008) so if I got no time for that I certainly don't have time for a pre release version. But you'r right, I used to be one of those that was among the first to test such things, not anymore tho.

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          So you remained because... I've been trying it but I get so many buggy annoyances that I've decided to put it aside for a while.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          Nish Nishant
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          So you remained because...

          I am not a geek/nerd like those guys. Just an ordinary guy who likes food, drinks, family time, movies etc. who codes on the side.

          Regards, Nish


          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

            modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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            Chris Losinger
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            all of the above. MS if fnckin nuts if they think i'm going to buy a new VS every year.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

              modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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              Rage
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              Well my VS10beta just finished to install, so I won't try VS11 until they have released the real VS10 version.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                :-D That is pretty good, so I have a feeling that it is one of those funny statements you stole from your wife.

                modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:58 AM

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                Nish Nishant
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                :laugh:

                Regards, Nish


                My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                  So you remained because...

                  I am not a geek/nerd like those guys. Just an ordinary guy who likes food, drinks, family time, movies etc. who codes on the side.

                  Regards, Nish


                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  We beleive you Nish, we believe you...


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

                    modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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                    Steve Maier
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                    I tried installing Win8-64 with the dev tools and the Win8-32 without tools on a virtual image using Virtual PC, VirtualBox, and VMWare Workstation and they all crashed on install. Kinda puts me off it if I can't install it and test. I could put a new drive in my desktop, but come on... they had to of known that we would be using virtual images for testing this stuff out. I did not download the VS11 tools only yet. Too busy making phone apps in my spare time.

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

                      modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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                      Maximilien
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                      I can't get my application to compile on VS2010 (multiple reasons); and I think our MSDN registration is over.

                      Watched code never compiles.

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

                        modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                        Yep. We loaded it into a VM as soon as it came out to see what they'd broken in the automation model (always the poor relation when a new release comes along). The immediate conclusion is that COM add-in registration in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (the one we use) is broken, but HKEY_CURRENT_USER (the one we don't use as it's a pain to use for an all-users add-in) is OK. Some gnashing of teeth ensued, but nowhere near as much as happened at VS2010 Beta 1 (or VS2005 beta 1, for that matter). I wrote a short blog post about the add-in stuff last night: Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview[^] As far as features go, so far I'm distinctly underwhelmed; I was hoping for far better C++ 11 support in this release (I mean, how difficult can features such as standards compliant range based for loops be?).

                        Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                          Yep. We loaded it into a VM as soon as it came out to see what they'd broken in the automation model (always the poor relation when a new release comes along). The immediate conclusion is that COM add-in registration in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (the one we use) is broken, but HKEY_CURRENT_USER (the one we don't use as it's a pain to use for an all-users add-in) is OK. Some gnashing of teeth ensued, but nowhere near as much as happened at VS2010 Beta 1 (or VS2005 beta 1, for that matter). I wrote a short blog post about the add-in stuff last night: Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview[^] As far as features go, so far I'm distinctly underwhelmed; I was hoping for far better C++ 11 support in this release (I mean, how difficult can features such as standards compliant range based for loops be?).

                          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          Cool good to know that you and Beth have not grown old :).

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

                            modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            I have installed it. Expect to see some blog posts from me, but I am busy finding the bugs so you don't have to.

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              Cool good to know that you and Beth have not grown old :).

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                              Cool good to know that you and Beth have not grown old

                              They got wiser but still stayed young. :-D

                              Regards, Nish


                              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                Yep. We loaded it into a VM as soon as it came out to see what they'd broken in the automation model (always the poor relation when a new release comes along). The immediate conclusion is that COM add-in registration in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (the one we use) is broken, but HKEY_CURRENT_USER (the one we don't use as it's a pain to use for an all-users add-in) is OK. Some gnashing of teeth ensued, but nowhere near as much as happened at VS2010 Beta 1 (or VS2005 beta 1, for that matter). I wrote a short blog post about the add-in stuff last night: Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview[^] As far as features go, so far I'm distinctly underwhelmed; I was hoping for far better C++ 11 support in this release (I mean, how difficult can features such as standards compliant range based for loops be?).

                                Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                hairy_hats
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                                Small typo - "Hot on the heels..."

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                  So you remained because...

                                  I am not a geek/nerd like those guys. Just an ordinary guy who likes food, drinks, family time, movies etc. who codes on the side.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Yeah, right :rolleyes:

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

                                    modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                    I can think of few things:-

                                    1. I have a perfectly fine working set of tools, why would I want to upgrade 2. I don't even use VS2010, and they're coming out with VS11? Why? 3. I don't try beta/preview versions. Waste of time. I get paid to develop working software with tools that my client's company approves. Trying a beta/preview is a waste of time. 4. Tools and products have matured so that they are essentially in the maintenance phase. The "geek" phase of "this huge feature is missing, I can't wait until the next release that includes it" is long gone. 5. There's less of reliance of one vendor to provide everything. Microsoft is not the only God in the development world anymore. Frankly, I find third party updates to components that I use every day, like DevExpress, a lot more useful than Microsoft's tool/product updates. That's my soapbox list. Marc

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      There used to be a time when people here where very enthusiastic about new releases (even the preview releases). The lounge was usually flooded with posts about that release. Now I do not see that anymore. For instance, there has been no post about VS11 preview and not many about Windows 8. I can think of few things:- 1. People here are getting old and tired to try new stuff. 2. People have lost their enthusiasm on Microsoft software. 3. Microsoft is not releasing good quality beta/preview versions 4. There are not enough new and compelling things in the new releases.

                                      modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 10:11 AM

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                                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                      I would rather have 5 years of bug fixes in VS2010 than a single new release.

                                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                      • H hairy_hats

                                        Small typo - "Hot on the heels..."

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        Yep, Beth just told me. :doh: Now fixed. :)

                                        Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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                                          I would rather have 5 years of bug fixes in VS2010 than a single new release.

                                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                          I couldn't agree more.

                                          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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