Are people getting rabid about Windows 8?
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I'm more excited about Windows 8 than the next person, as it really looks like it's going to offer me fantastic opportunities, and open a playing field up for me as I leave school. However, I've been reading a few articles (including ones linked from the CodeProject newsletter), and I've been finding fantastic gems from people offering their opinions. The following two really really really made me mad: 1. "The next "Call of Duty" could be a WinRT app, complete with support for Edge UIs and Charms." Paul Thurrot - http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/windows8/winrt-replacing-win32-140605[] Yes, let's make the next 'Call of Duty' a tablet game, and make it bring up the pause menu on the computer if you press the right mouse button. Also, let's completely disregard the whole entire history of the engine, and all the work done on it ever before, and write it in HTML/CSS/Javascript. Because, you know, we just like doing that. What is this guy thinking? When I read that line, I lost all belief in the credibility of the article. Do you really think that Adobe, for example, would port all their apps over to a Metro/WinRT style with no right click support (um, HELLO?), when they have a thriving Mac community? Are you even compute literate? 2. "The bad news is that Microsoft has lacked the guts to cut the cord entirely ... Microsoft shouldn’t allow Windows 8 to become contaminated by the past; at some point, they’re simply going to have to announce a clean and final break with previous versions of Windows. This is another thing they’re going to need to copy from Apple." http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/7653632-452/the-next-great-os-could-be-a-touched-up-windows-8.html[^] Because that REALLY would work in Microsoft's favour. Considering all the artists think Mac is the 'way to go', what advantage would that leave Microsoft. Sure, let's just break all ties with the past, all that backwards binary support, because we want t
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I'm more excited about Windows 8 than the next person, as it really looks like it's going to offer me fantastic opportunities, and open a playing field up for me as I leave school. However, I've been reading a few articles (including ones linked from the CodeProject newsletter), and I've been finding fantastic gems from people offering their opinions. The following two really really really made me mad: 1. "The next "Call of Duty" could be a WinRT app, complete with support for Edge UIs and Charms." Paul Thurrot - http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/windows8/winrt-replacing-win32-140605[] Yes, let's make the next 'Call of Duty' a tablet game, and make it bring up the pause menu on the computer if you press the right mouse button. Also, let's completely disregard the whole entire history of the engine, and all the work done on it ever before, and write it in HTML/CSS/Javascript. Because, you know, we just like doing that. What is this guy thinking? When I read that line, I lost all belief in the credibility of the article. Do you really think that Adobe, for example, would port all their apps over to a Metro/WinRT style with no right click support (um, HELLO?), when they have a thriving Mac community? Are you even compute literate? 2. "The bad news is that Microsoft has lacked the guts to cut the cord entirely ... Microsoft shouldn’t allow Windows 8 to become contaminated by the past; at some point, they’re simply going to have to announce a clean and final break with previous versions of Windows. This is another thing they’re going to need to copy from Apple." http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/7653632-452/the-next-great-os-could-be-a-touched-up-windows-8.html[^] Because that REALLY would work in Microsoft's favour. Considering all the artists think Mac is the 'way to go', what advantage would that leave Microsoft. Sure, let's just break all ties with the past, all that backwards binary support, because we want t
AS to your point number one you're missing some information: I found a better diagram someone made as a replacement for the infamous one they showed in the keynote showing the windows 8 architecture and what they missed in the original diagram is that DirectX should be at the top left side in equal prominence with the other UI layers. So there is nothing unusual about games (hard core graphics intensive games) running atop winrt. As to your second item that would only work if there were two separate editions because business users are still going to need windows desktop for many years to come. It was probably written by a very young or out of touch person who only sees the home or personal consumer side of the equation.
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I'm more excited about Windows 8 than the next person, as it really looks like it's going to offer me fantastic opportunities, and open a playing field up for me as I leave school. However, I've been reading a few articles (including ones linked from the CodeProject newsletter), and I've been finding fantastic gems from people offering their opinions. The following two really really really made me mad: 1. "The next "Call of Duty" could be a WinRT app, complete with support for Edge UIs and Charms." Paul Thurrot - http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/windows8/winrt-replacing-win32-140605[] Yes, let's make the next 'Call of Duty' a tablet game, and make it bring up the pause menu on the computer if you press the right mouse button. Also, let's completely disregard the whole entire history of the engine, and all the work done on it ever before, and write it in HTML/CSS/Javascript. Because, you know, we just like doing that. What is this guy thinking? When I read that line, I lost all belief in the credibility of the article. Do you really think that Adobe, for example, would port all their apps over to a Metro/WinRT style with no right click support (um, HELLO?), when they have a thriving Mac community? Are you even compute literate? 2. "The bad news is that Microsoft has lacked the guts to cut the cord entirely ... Microsoft shouldn’t allow Windows 8 to become contaminated by the past; at some point, they’re simply going to have to announce a clean and final break with previous versions of Windows. This is another thing they’re going to need to copy from Apple." http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/7653632-452/the-next-great-os-could-be-a-touched-up-windows-8.html[^] Because that REALLY would work in Microsoft's favour. Considering all the artists think Mac is the 'way to go', what advantage would that leave Microsoft. Sure, let's just break all ties with the past, all that backwards binary support, because we want t
Those writers are most likely under the pressure of deadlines to submit their articles. This means that they are just looking for whatever angle they can find to write a thousand words. Don't take them too seriously.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'm more excited about Windows 8 than the next person, as it really looks like it's going to offer me fantastic opportunities, and open a playing field up for me as I leave school. However, I've been reading a few articles (including ones linked from the CodeProject newsletter), and I've been finding fantastic gems from people offering their opinions. The following two really really really made me mad: 1. "The next "Call of Duty" could be a WinRT app, complete with support for Edge UIs and Charms." Paul Thurrot - http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/windows8/winrt-replacing-win32-140605[] Yes, let's make the next 'Call of Duty' a tablet game, and make it bring up the pause menu on the computer if you press the right mouse button. Also, let's completely disregard the whole entire history of the engine, and all the work done on it ever before, and write it in HTML/CSS/Javascript. Because, you know, we just like doing that. What is this guy thinking? When I read that line, I lost all belief in the credibility of the article. Do you really think that Adobe, for example, would port all their apps over to a Metro/WinRT style with no right click support (um, HELLO?), when they have a thriving Mac community? Are you even compute literate? 2. "The bad news is that Microsoft has lacked the guts to cut the cord entirely ... Microsoft shouldn’t allow Windows 8 to become contaminated by the past; at some point, they’re simply going to have to announce a clean and final break with previous versions of Windows. This is another thing they’re going to need to copy from Apple." http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/7653632-452/the-next-great-os-could-be-a-touched-up-windows-8.html[^] Because that REALLY would work in Microsoft's favour. Considering all the artists think Mac is the 'way to go', what advantage would that leave Microsoft. Sure, let's just break all ties with the past, all that backwards binary support, because we want t
Most of us have had "our shots" after we bit ourselves, so we're safe, but both Thurrott and Ihnatko, I would propose to you, are near the bottom of the barrel in technical reporting, along with Mary Jo Foley of ZD-NET. Mainly valuable, imho, as a source of links to other, better quality, content. It seems to me that P. Thurrott was once kind of a 'rebel-with-a-cause,' but in his current incarnation is definitely an M$ "made man." Ihnatko's writing is in a deliberately 'agent provacateur' role, which, evidently, keeps him supplied with loaners from Apple, as he brags about in the piece of puffery you cite. Try reading posts on this topic here on CP by Daniel Grunwald, Pete O'Hanlon, for very in-depth coverage, and speculation tempered with wisdom, and check out Pete's blog for some very insightful essays on Win 8. And, other places I'd suggest you look, for more in-depth coverage, are blogs like those of Scott Hanselman, Scott Guthrie, Jeremy Alles, Doug Seven (cited on CP today). I've cited Tim Anderson's interesting blog post here on a CP lounge post today. I think things re Win 8 will be so much more "in focus" in the next month. "Question everything: trust nothing" ... attributed to the Kaballah tradition best, Bill
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I'm more excited about Windows 8 than the next person, as it really looks like it's going to offer me fantastic opportunities, and open a playing field up for me as I leave school. However, I've been reading a few articles (including ones linked from the CodeProject newsletter), and I've been finding fantastic gems from people offering their opinions. The following two really really really made me mad: 1. "The next "Call of Duty" could be a WinRT app, complete with support for Edge UIs and Charms." Paul Thurrot - http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/windows8/winrt-replacing-win32-140605[] Yes, let's make the next 'Call of Duty' a tablet game, and make it bring up the pause menu on the computer if you press the right mouse button. Also, let's completely disregard the whole entire history of the engine, and all the work done on it ever before, and write it in HTML/CSS/Javascript. Because, you know, we just like doing that. What is this guy thinking? When I read that line, I lost all belief in the credibility of the article. Do you really think that Adobe, for example, would port all their apps over to a Metro/WinRT style with no right click support (um, HELLO?), when they have a thriving Mac community? Are you even compute literate? 2. "The bad news is that Microsoft has lacked the guts to cut the cord entirely ... Microsoft shouldn’t allow Windows 8 to become contaminated by the past; at some point, they’re simply going to have to announce a clean and final break with previous versions of Windows. This is another thing they’re going to need to copy from Apple." http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/7653632-452/the-next-great-os-could-be-a-touched-up-windows-8.html[^] Because that REALLY would work in Microsoft's favour. Considering all the artists think Mac is the 'way to go', what advantage would that leave Microsoft. Sure, let's just break all ties with the past, all that backwards binary support, because we want t
dawmail333 wrote:
I've been finding fantastic gems from people offering their opinions. The following two really really really made me mad:
Like you already mentioned; they're opinions, not the truth. They're merely peoples view on things, and having a view on a subject is more common than having thought about a subject.
dawmail333 wrote:
2. "The bad news is that Microsoft has lacked the guts to cut the cord entirely ... Microsoft shouldn’t allow Windows 8 to become contaminated by the past;
Like I said, it's an opinion, in this case from someone who hasn't got a clue about the industry. You don't need a clue to have a voice, you don't need to be right to be heard. One of the reasons MS outperformed it's competitors is it's backward-compatibility strategy. People put more faith in something that simply seems to work over any software that breaks, it's that plain easy. The Windows-team went trough great lengths to run old games on newer versions of Windows, as one can read on Chen's blog. It's not bad news, it's good news that I can still run my old accounting-software on the new Windows.
dawmail333 wrote:
Considering all the artists think Mac is the 'way to go'
For people that only use their tablet to surf the net, yes, I'd agree. The rest of the world has consistently chosen Windows. Yes, "computer-people" think that they sound cool and wise if they bash Microsoft.
dawmail333 wrote:
I just can't understand the logic(?) some people seem to be spouting out.
Meh, happens every new version of Windows. I can remember people advising against upgrading to NT4, because it was "merely" a UI-update. Then they advised against using Win2k, because it would be a memory hog. Then XP became the bad guy, and shortly after the introduction of Vista, everyone agreed that XP was the best OS ever. I admit that Vista (just like ME) was a version driven by the marketing-department, and we know the results. I remember reading some article claiming that W8 was not a desktop-OS, based on the argument that people don't want to buy an OS. I posted that people have been buying the OS consistently, while there was a free alternative available. ..it's a religious thing, and I'm not going to get mad over the ignorance of some weblogger. It's not an objective analysis, ju
