Cheese - A Reply to Eric
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They aren't common, and it's always local. This kind of beers don't travel well for obvious reasons. I tried to bring some bottled kellerbier home this spring. It wasn't a very good idea. I just need to go to Bamberg more often. ;P
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It's odd, but you really can tell a difference in taste between keg beer poured through a draft (keg & CO2 powered) system, and firkin style through a hand engine. I've had the same beer through both,side by side, courtesy of Three Floyds Brewery which made standard CO2 kegs and firkin style cask ales of the same brew. http://www.3floyds.com/our-beers-2/[^]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
Not at all odd in my opinion. When you use CO2 to dispence the beer out of the keg, a lot of the CO2 solves into the beer making it more acidic. While a cask beer is actually losing some of the CO2 in the pumping process, giving the opposite effect.
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wizardzz wrote:
also a name given to cask ales.
Other wise known as, 'cask ales', a far better name in that using the volume as the contents is possibly the most stupid thing I ever heard. Ever heard of of the new fuel for cars? It is called gallons... As for beer engines, I worked in the trade and I never heard that term used. Ever. It is a hand pump.
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type "Angram beer" into google and see what the autocomplete is. Then look at the links and see how the UK manufacturer of hand pumps calls them engines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_engine[^] And according to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firkin[^] Casks in this size (themselves called firkins) are the most common container for cask ale. So firkin is also the term for the actual cask, so calling it a cask ale or firkin is equally idiotic then.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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type "Angram beer" into google and see what the autocomplete is. Then look at the links and see how the UK manufacturer of hand pumps calls them engines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_engine[^] And according to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firkin[^] Casks in this size (themselves called firkins) are the most common container for cask ale. So firkin is also the term for the actual cask, so calling it a cask ale or firkin is equally idiotic then.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
type "Angram beer" into google and see what the autocomplete is. Then look at the links and see how the UK manufacturer of hand pumps calls them engines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_engine[^]
I am sure some one in the US wants to abuse a barrel size (that traditionally contained all sorts of products, not just beer) but I wont, thankyou. :) As for beerengines, it is a hand pump. ALways was, always will be. Never heard of beerengine, would piss myself laughing if I ever did hear it refered to as such.
wizardzz wrote:
Casks in this size (themselves called firkins) are the most common container for cask ale.
So firkin is also the term for the actual cask, so calling it a cask ale or firkin is equally idiotic then.Yes. It is not a firkin. A firkin is a size of barrel. It is beer you are talking about. One that happens to be called Ale in English, and today, Real Ale to signify the traditiopnally brewed Ales. So, it is Ale. OK. :)
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wizardzz wrote:
type "Angram beer" into google and see what the autocomplete is. Then look at the links and see how the UK manufacturer of hand pumps calls them engines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_engine[^]
I am sure some one in the US wants to abuse a barrel size (that traditionally contained all sorts of products, not just beer) but I wont, thankyou. :) As for beerengines, it is a hand pump. ALways was, always will be. Never heard of beerengine, would piss myself laughing if I ever did hear it refered to as such.
wizardzz wrote:
Casks in this size (themselves called firkins) are the most common container for cask ale.
So firkin is also the term for the actual cask, so calling it a cask ale or firkin is equally idiotic then.Yes. It is not a firkin. A firkin is a size of barrel. It is beer you are talking about. One that happens to be called Ale in English, and today, Real Ale to signify the traditiopnally brewed Ales. So, it is Ale. OK. :)
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You can call it whatever you want, and drink whatever it takes to make these girls attractive: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040260/Maciej-Dakowicz-Cardiff-After-Dark-binge-drinking-images-turned-Britain-laughing-stock.html#ixzz1Ynk8bmb8[^]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Not at all odd in my opinion. When you use CO2 to dispence the beer out of the keg, a lot of the CO2 solves into the beer making it more acidic. While a cask beer is actually losing some of the CO2 in the pumping process, giving the opposite effect.
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You can call it whatever you want, and drink whatever it takes to make these girls attractive: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040260/Maciej-Dakowicz-Cardiff-After-Dark-binge-drinking-images-turned-Britain-laughing-stock.html#ixzz1Ynk8bmb8[^]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
You seem to have a bit of a fixation with these pic.'s. Is this the third or fourth time today you've posted a link?
Rhys "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe"
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You seem to have a bit of a fixation with these pic.'s. Is this the third or fourth time today you've posted a link?
Rhys "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe"
Third time. I just can't get over it. I sent them to friends that live by me because I see something similar every weekend, but just not this bad. I might have to document the mess by me soon. Cool, now I know who is stalking me.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Not that I have noticed. The kids are all on the alcopops.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Still making it in Northumberland[^] like sweet sherry, but smoother.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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You can call it whatever you want, and drink whatever it takes to make these girls attractive: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040260/Maciej-Dakowicz-Cardiff-After-Dark-binge-drinking-images-turned-Britain-laughing-stock.html#ixzz1Ynk8bmb8[^]
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
wizardzz wrote:
You can call it whatever you want, and drink whatever it takes to make these girls attractive
No, you are calling it whatever you want. I am calling it what it IS. :) firkin "small cask, fourth part of a barrel," late 14c., apparently from M.Du. *vierdekijn, dim. of vierde, lit. "fourth, fourth part" (see fourth). I never knew that.
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I used to have a job selling real ale handling equipment into pubs, one of my many. There are an extraordinary number of small breweries in the UK producing some vey good beers. Theakstones was a favourite whan i was up north. Round Bristol the Witchwood brewery produced somne good beers too. There are of course too many to include, but above al London Pride for me hits all the right spots, and can be drunk in quantity. As I can vouch for, on many an occasion. :)
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You are aware that Theakstones is now just a name slapped on a Carsberg bitter? the people who used to make theakstones now make Black Sheep.
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Absoloutely. It is why hand pumped ales can be flat, and the vertical distance between the cellar and the pump crucial. You cant hand pump much over 3 meters or so.
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Hand pumped ales flat? you must be a southerner no self respecting Pub would server flat beer regardless of source Hand pumps are fitted with restrictors (sprinklers) that cream the beer on deliverly to produce a creamy head that should last untill the pint is finished, if the head is gone before you finish it means either the beer is going off, it was badly pulled or kept or that your are darn sooth. although i find a lot of "new" bar staff cannot pull a pint for the life of them, they have a tendancy to undo the sprinkers, this makes the pint easier to pull but stops the head forming correctly or to pull so many time that they kill the head.
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Hand pumped ales flat? you must be a southerner no self respecting Pub would server flat beer regardless of source Hand pumps are fitted with restrictors (sprinklers) that cream the beer on deliverly to produce a creamy head that should last untill the pint is finished, if the head is gone before you finish it means either the beer is going off, it was badly pulled or kept or that your are darn sooth. although i find a lot of "new" bar staff cannot pull a pint for the life of them, they have a tendancy to undo the sprinkers, this makes the pint easier to pull but stops the head forming correctly or to pull so many time that they kill the head.
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Not all beers or pumps use sparklers. They change the taste of the beer, as well as the size of the head.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
not all beers? I do suppose bottle beers never used them ;) unless they are gravity taps I dont remember any hand pumps that didnt (although it has been a good few years since I worked behind a bar) even those in london had them even if they were never fitted. keg beer I will admit, never used them as you would have just ended up as foam as for the taste, I have never found anyone who prefered the taste of flat beer (or keg for that matter) to hand pulled
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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not all beers? I do suppose bottle beers never used them ;) unless they are gravity taps I dont remember any hand pumps that didnt (although it has been a good few years since I worked behind a bar) even those in london had them even if they were never fitted. keg beer I will admit, never used them as you would have just ended up as foam as for the taste, I have never found anyone who prefered the taste of flat beer (or keg for that matter) to hand pulled
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/17/sparklers-whats-the-fuss-about-then/[^] http://robsbeerquest.blogspot.com/2011/03/sparkler-argument.html[^] http://www.beerbirrabier.com/2010/05/draft-beer-sparkler-debate.html[^] It does seem to be a North versus South thing in the main part.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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wizardzz wrote:
You can call it whatever you want, and drink whatever it takes to make these girls attractive
No, you are calling it whatever you want. I am calling it what it IS. :) firkin "small cask, fourth part of a barrel," late 14c., apparently from M.Du. *vierdekijn, dim. of vierde, lit. "fourth, fourth part" (see fourth). I never knew that.
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Wow a dictionary, go ahead and ignore any definition found elsewhere now.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/17/sparklers-whats-the-fuss-about-then/[^] http://robsbeerquest.blogspot.com/2011/03/sparkler-argument.html[^] http://www.beerbirrabier.com/2010/05/draft-beer-sparkler-debate.html[^] It does seem to be a North versus South thing in the main part.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
aye it could be, but as the south's brewing empires gave us keg bitter I am not sure Id trust thier judgement :laugh:
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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You are aware that Theakstones is now just a name slapped on a Carsberg bitter? the people who used to make theakstones now make Black Sheep.
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Hand pumped ales flat? you must be a southerner no self respecting Pub would server flat beer regardless of source Hand pumps are fitted with restrictors (sprinklers) that cream the beer on deliverly to produce a creamy head that should last untill the pint is finished, if the head is gone before you finish it means either the beer is going off, it was badly pulled or kept or that your are darn sooth. although i find a lot of "new" bar staff cannot pull a pint for the life of them, they have a tendancy to undo the sprinkers, this makes the pint easier to pull but stops the head forming correctly or to pull so many time that they kill the head.
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:
Hand pumped ales flat?
Well, I meant 'not fizzy', like keg lager. (And some ales can be so un fizzy they dont produce a creamy head, seriously. Perhaps souther ales arte different? ) See how thin the head is on a pint of London Pride: http://www.google.co.uk/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1271&bih=830&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=pint+of+london+pride&oq=pint+of+london+pride&aq=f&aqi=g-mS1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=9068l11003l0l11238l12l10l0l0l0l0l363l1436l0.1.4.1l6l0[^]
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Wow a dictionary, go ahead and ignore any definition found elsewhere now.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.