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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    It's this index starting at 0 or 1 problem again. :laugh:


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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    Ian Shlasko
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    See? Should have started at -2 :)

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      It's this index starting at 0 or 1 problem again. :laugh:


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      Marc Clifton
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      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

      It's this index starting at 0 or 1 problem again.

      What surprised me about that whole discussion is that nobody (well, I didn't read ALL the threads) offered the idea to design a language in which indexing with integers could be completely eliminated (well, except me, harhar). Marc

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        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        It's this index starting at 0 or 1 problem again.

        What surprised me about that whole discussion is that nobody (well, I didn't read ALL the threads) offered the idea to design a language in which indexing with integers could be completely eliminated (well, except me, harhar). Marc

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Careful. You'll be advocating programming in English next.

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Careful. You'll be advocating programming in English next.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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          Go COBOL!

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Careful. You'll be advocating programming in English next.

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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            Ian Shlasko
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            Don't laugh too hard, Pete... It's been done. I spent a bit of time writing interactive fiction games (Text adventures, like the old HHG2G game), and though I didn't go this route, there's one interpreter that actually does let you code in natural language... Here's a sample of an open-source game by one of the most well-known designers in the community (Not me :) ) http://inform7.com/learn/eg/bronze/source.html[^]: Yes, that's program code. It doesn't look like it, but it is.

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              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

              It's this index starting at 0 or 1 problem again.

              What surprised me about that whole discussion is that nobody (well, I didn't read ALL the threads) offered the idea to design a language in which indexing with integers could be completely eliminated (well, except me, harhar). Marc

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              Most use of indexes can be eliminated by holding a reference [them kids don't like me saying *pointer] to the element and moving forward or backwards along the array.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                Most use of indexes can be eliminated by holding a reference [them kids don't like me saying *pointer] to the element and moving forward or backwards along the array.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                Marc Clifton
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                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                Most use of indexes can be eliminated by holding a reference [them kids don't like me saying *pointer] to the element and moving forward or backwards along the array.

                :doh: I am embarrassed to have forgotten my C/C++ days! Marc

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                • I Ian Shlasko

                  Don't laugh too hard, Pete... It's been done. I spent a bit of time writing interactive fiction games (Text adventures, like the old HHG2G game), and though I didn't go this route, there's one interpreter that actually does let you code in natural language... Here's a sample of an open-source game by one of the most well-known designers in the community (Not me :) ) http://inform7.com/learn/eg/bronze/source.html[^]: Yes, that's program code. It doesn't look like it, but it is.

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                  Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  The long term lounge regulars should get my reference to programming in English. It was a major controversy a while back.

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                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Careful. You'll be advocating programming in English next.

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    Careful. You'll be advocating programming in English next.

                    No way. I still want that huge touch screen wall where I can just move things around, like when Crusher's son reprogrammed the tractor beam into a repulsor beam. That's how programming should be done! Marc

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      Careful. You'll be advocating programming in English next.

                      No way. I still want that huge touch screen wall where I can just move things around, like when Crusher's son reprogrammed the tractor beam into a repulsor beam. That's how programming should be done! Marc

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      I just want something were I can think what I want the thing to do and it is done.


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                        Most use of indexes can be eliminated by holding a reference [them kids don't like me saying *pointer] to the element and moving forward or backwards along the array.

                        :doh: I am embarrassed to have forgotten my C/C++ days! Marc

                        My Blog

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        I have forgotten more than I know, that's for sure. Back in the day I have been high level in COBOL, Fortran C, C++ and myriad different scripting languages. Now I can barely manage a bit of Java and the odd foray into C#.


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          Most use of indexes can be eliminated by holding a reference [them kids don't like me saying *pointer] to the element and moving forward or backwards along the array.

                          :doh: I am embarrassed to have forgotten my C/C++ days! Marc

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          I'm getting back into C++, and having a ball.

                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                            I'm getting back into C++, and having a ball.

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            A lot of our server is written in C++, I pretend to not understand that 'complicated mumbo-jumbo' code. Scarily, I can still read it and understand SETF it is doing. Writing in C++ is a different sport all together and I'm not sure if it even uses balls.


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              A lot of our server is written in C++, I pretend to not understand that 'complicated mumbo-jumbo' code. Scarily, I can still read it and understand SETF it is doing. Writing in C++ is a different sport all together and I'm not sure if it even uses balls.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              I was a C/C++ programmer for years, so it's good for me to be looking at it again. You forget how coddled you are by .NET.

                              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Ooh, I get to write one of these. I have to use Outlook at my client's site, and I noticed a couple weeks ago that it was stuck reporting 4 new emails in my inbox, even though there were none. Closing Outlook and restarting it fixed that problem. Now I notice it reports no new emails in my inbox, but I have several! [rant]WTF Microsoft. Can't you figure out how to count new emails???[/rant] Marc

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                                These are what MS have started to call 'Grey mail'[^] (Does that make them Emailence grise?). As we all know "All cats emails look grey in the dark." and I can't think of anywhere darker than the innards of Outlook.

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Ooh, I get to write one of these. I have to use Outlook at my client's site, and I noticed a couple weeks ago that it was stuck reporting 4 new emails in my inbox, even though there were none. Closing Outlook and restarting it fixed that problem. Now I notice it reports no new emails in my inbox, but I have several! [rant]WTF Microsoft. Can't you figure out how to count new emails???[/rant] Marc

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                                  NormDroid
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                                  We have Outlook 2010 in our business, around 110+ licences and all various configs (Exchange accounts, POP3). We exprience around 4 faults per week, mainly with emails stuck sending (outbox syndrome). One reason thats cause the problem is PST file size. Try deleting mails (shift+delete).

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    Ooh, I get to write one of these. I have to use Outlook at my client's site, and I noticed a couple weeks ago that it was stuck reporting 4 new emails in my inbox, even though there were none. Closing Outlook and restarting it fixed that problem. Now I notice it reports no new emails in my inbox, but I have several! [rant]WTF Microsoft. Can't you figure out how to count new emails???[/rant] Marc

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                                    CalvinHobbies
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                                    possibly already said. I saw something like this once, but that was because mail was stuck on the server side. I have never seen it happen in a long to due to many of the systems I work with now are on exchange. could this be it too? filters? Was just thinkin.

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      Ooh, I get to write one of these. I have to use Outlook at my client's site, and I noticed a couple weeks ago that it was stuck reporting 4 new emails in my inbox, even though there were none. Closing Outlook and restarting it fixed that problem. Now I notice it reports no new emails in my inbox, but I have several! [rant]WTF Microsoft. Can't you figure out how to count new emails???[/rant] Marc

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                                      Roger Wright
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                                      Can't see any new emails? There's an easy fix for that. Highlight the first email in the Inbox, then press Ctrl-U. Voila! You have mail! :-D

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Ooh, I get to write one of these. I have to use Outlook at my client's site, and I noticed a couple weeks ago that it was stuck reporting 4 new emails in my inbox, even though there were none. Closing Outlook and restarting it fixed that problem. Now I notice it reports no new emails in my inbox, but I have several! [rant]WTF Microsoft. Can't you figure out how to count new emails???[/rant] Marc

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                                        No pity from me. We use Lotus Notes 8.5 here.

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          Careful. You'll be advocating programming in English next.

                                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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