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  • S Steve Mayfield

    I purchased my first Sony Walkman in the early 80s - I would argue that the concept for the iPods (portable music player) could be traced back to these. Someone on the radio this morning said that Apple was more about style and packaging - although I will say that they were a front runner in the move to portable digital media.

    Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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    Apple is great at taking someone else's ideas and making the slick and marketable. They're not great at inventing new things. Even the personal computer was not invented by them as many assume. They were just the first to make it popular and more than just a hobby. Apple is great at marketing, but suck at inventiveness. They're still making the same business mistake they made back in the early 80's: they're closed. Everyone recognizes that the biggest business blunder of all time was not opening up and licensing the Apple OS to other hardware vendors. They're making the same mistakes today. And they're loosing again.

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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    • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

      Hell, he revolutionized the computer experience! Having invented the personal computer with a graphical user interface and mouse after all. By the way, with the Altair, didn't Jobs really invent Windows and M$ just copied him (like it does everything else it produces) But hey, it was just code reuse...

      Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart

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      Lost User
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      I have read that it was Xerox that invented the graphic UI with the mouse.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        Should have said it up front then. As for 'nothing like it before', I call BS. Touch screen phones pre-date the iPhone by a couple of years. Apple DID improve the UX, but they didn't invent anything new. They were not first to market, but bets to market. A company with superb marketing and, as you are evidence, the ability to tie in customers. Apple has one of the most closed down API's in the business. Everything that M$ has been criticised for over the years, Apple does as well. Jobs in himself was not a nice man. Go read up how he treated his daughter and how much he helped those less fortunate than him. Then come back and tell me he was great.


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        John Y
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        oh my bad - guess i should have researched more - what would be an example of a functional touch screen phone that was also an MP3 player and an Internet browser. I just couldn't find one. And, no, I'm not being "smart" here - I would seriously like to know. ________ John Y. Developer

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          They may well have pushed things forwards with the iPhone, but plenty of others were heading the same way already. And they have been overtaken in a great way since. However, it is the 'mobile experience' that gets to me, maybe it is a cultural thing, but I don't want a fucking mobile experience. It smacks of buzzword bingo, meaningless marketing bollox.

          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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          I didn't mean to sound like buzzwords, but I just thought was a good word to use. And, it was just my thoughts on the man - I did not intend it to start some debate PRO or CON Apple. And if I think about it, and quite literally - my mobile experienced was changed significantly after I purchased my iPhones. AND, if you look at the (in some ways better) smartphones out there now, it can be argued that the inspiration could have been from Apple. And I never said he invented ANYTHING. Just revolutionized if (even if all that took was some great marketing and branding skills). The man just passed away, and I thought it would be a nice thing to put out there. Thats all. ________ John Y. Developer

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Apple is great at taking someone else's ideas and making the slick and marketable. They're not great at inventing new things. Even the personal computer was not invented by them as many assume. They were just the first to make it popular and more than just a hobby. Apple is great at marketing, but suck at inventiveness. They're still making the same business mistake they made back in the early 80's: they're closed. Everyone recognizes that the biggest business blunder of all time was not opening up and licensing the Apple OS to other hardware vendors. They're making the same mistakes today. And they're loosing again.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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            ahmed zahmed wrote:

            but suck at inventiveness

            Almost nothing is *completely* new these days. But Apple has shown itself to be very innovative IMO. Tell me which phone prior to iPhone would you let you scale an image without having to press a Zoom-in button? They're primarily a Tech company not a marketing company...

            "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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            • S Slacker007

              Exactly what do you have a profound scholarly knowledge of? Being a jerk or just acting like one?

              Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
              "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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              As a comedian I would have expected you to recognise humour. I guess not.

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                As a comedian I would have expected you to recognise humour. I guess not.

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                Erudite__Eric wrote:

                As a comedian I would have expected you to recognise humour. I guess not.

                I'm not a comedian. wizardzz is the comedian. I love humor...all forms, tasteful and not so tasteful. However, I "personally" don't think making fun of his passing to be funny. Sorry. Maybe I might find your joke to be humorous twenty years from now. My opinion; therefore it is neither right nor wrong.

                Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                • S Slacker007

                  Erudite__Eric wrote:

                  As a comedian I would have expected you to recognise humour. I guess not.

                  I'm not a comedian. wizardzz is the comedian. I love humor...all forms, tasteful and not so tasteful. However, I "personally" don't think making fun of his passing to be funny. Sorry. Maybe I might find your joke to be humorous twenty years from now. My opinion; therefore it is neither right nor wrong.

                  Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                  "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                  Slacker007 wrote:

                  I "personally" don't think making fun of his passing to be funn

                  Yet you chose to pick on my joke and call me a jerk and not any of the other 5 or so!

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                    oh my bad - guess i should have researched more - what would be an example of a functional touch screen phone that was also an MP3 player and an Internet browser. I just couldn't find one. And, no, I'm not being "smart" here - I would seriously like to know. ________ John Y. Developer

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                    In 2002 I bought a Sony Ericsson P800, I had a touchscreen (albeit with a stylus), a full internet browser (not just WAP), played MP3s and I could download apps and games for it. I had an app that used the infra red port and turned it into a universal remote control, that was great fun for changing TVs over in public places such as pubs. I also had Lemmings on it. I didn't downvote anything you put, and I think the downvoting you received was unfair, but don't apologise for what you put because people don't agree with it and don't change it to try to appease them.

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      I "personally" don't think making fun of his passing to be funn

                      Yet you chose to pick on my joke and call me a jerk and not any of the other 5 or so!

                      ============================== Nothing to say.

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                      Slacker007
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                      Erudite__Eric wrote:

                      Yet you chose to pick on my joke and call me a jerk and not any of the other 5 or so!

                      no argument here.

                      Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                      "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                      • S Slacker007

                        Erudite__Eric wrote:

                        Yet you chose to pick on my joke and call me a jerk and not any of the other 5 or so!

                        no argument here.

                        Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                        "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                        Oh boo hoo! You still dont like me because I think GW is a crock. Grow up! ;P

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                        • L Lost User

                          Oh boo hoo! You still dont like me because I think GW is a crock. Grow up! ;P

                          ============================== Nothing to say.

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                          back at you. ;)

                          Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                          "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                          • A Ashley van Gerven

                            ahmed zahmed wrote:

                            but suck at inventiveness

                            Almost nothing is *completely* new these days. But Apple has shown itself to be very innovative IMO. Tell me which phone prior to iPhone would you let you scale an image without having to press a Zoom-in button? They're primarily a Tech company not a marketing company...

                            "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

                            CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            Multitouch zoom was invented by Microsoft if I remember correctly.

                            Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                            primarily a Tech company not a marketing company

                            I would beg to differ.

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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