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  • R Rob Grainger

    "Each and every time progress is made" I refer you to: Significant New Inventions In Computing Since 1980[^] So that's none too much progress in the last 30 years, guess developer's are a conservative bunch at heart. Seriously though, I'd like to see something better in the Browser than JavaScript, but can't see it happening, unless (god forbid) developed by a committee, and that would almost certainly be worse.

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    Lost User
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    Interesting if Google considers forking the web development to be "evil" :)

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    • R Rob Grainger

      "Each and every time progress is made" I refer you to: Significant New Inventions In Computing Since 1980[^] So that's none too much progress in the last 30 years, guess developer's are a conservative bunch at heart. Seriously though, I'd like to see something better in the Browser than JavaScript, but can't see it happening, unless (god forbid) developed by a committee, and that would almost certainly be worse.

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      GuyThiebaut
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      Thanks. For me the two biggest areas of change have been: The internet - this has had a huge impact on society in the past 15 years. IDE's for developers - I code .Net as a hobby and the VS IDE is just amazing - at work I use UltraEdit to code SAS and it comes nowhere near to VS.

      Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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      • R Rob Grainger

        I'm giving you a 5 because I think you meant it can hopefully replace JS. If you meant the opposite, that hopefully Dart will be replaced by JS, let me know and I'll compensate by downvoting your next post ;-)

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        Marc Clifton
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        Rob Grainger wrote:

        I'm giving you a 5 because I think you meant it can hopefully replace JS.

        Hey, where's my 5??? ;) Yes, that is exactly what I meant. :) Marc

        My Blog

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Rob Grainger wrote:

          I'm giving you a 5 because I think you meant it can hopefully replace JS.

          Hey, where's my 5??? ;) Yes, that is exactly what I meant. :) Marc

          My Blog

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          Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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          I'm not Rob, but have a 5 anyway, heh. Flynn

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          • F Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe

            I'm not Rob, but have a 5 anyway, heh. Flynn

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            Marc Clifton
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            Flynn Arrowstarr / Regular Schmoe wrote:

            I'm not Rob, but have a 5 anyway, heh.

            Hmmm. CP is messing up on the "reply to" links. :~ Marc

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            • A AndyInUK

              Google Dart. Not sure if this language gonna hit the nail. Does anyone here think, it can be replaced with the Javascript?

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              ii_noname_ii
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              NEVER. Because google is evil and will probably include automatic feedback to their ads. I don't trust google, nor ANYTHING they produce. It's very clear to me what their strategy is. NOTHING is free. There is a much darker purpose for Dart.

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              • L Lost User

                Dart is java, not much to learn really, but makes sense. Pretty sure Microsoft will hurry up with a Visual Dart++ (or Visual D# :) ) of some sort.

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                computermage
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                I prefer just Visual D plugin with plain old D 2.0 :)

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                • A AndyInUK

                  Google Dart. Not sure if this language gonna hit the nail. Does anyone here think, it can be replaced with the Javascript?

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                  Alexander DiMauro
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                  Well, according to this article on Los Techies[^], a simple Dart 'Hello World' program compiles to 17259 lines of code. :wtf:

                  The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! Life is too short to remove USB safely. Have you tried turning it off and on again? Have you tried forcing an unexpected reboot?

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                  • L Lost User

                    Dart is java, not much to learn really, but makes sense. Pretty sure Microsoft will hurry up with a Visual Dart++ (or Visual D# :) ) of some sort.

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                    Bruce Patin
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                    That should be D-flat. On the keyboard, D-flat is the same as C-sharp. And I usually use a lower case b for the flat sign (like we use a hash sign for sharp), so we have Db, which also means database. D-sharp is a tone up from C-sharp, and the same as E-flat on the keyboard, which is contrary to the natural progression of the computer industry, which is ...

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                    • B Bruce Patin

                      That should be D-flat. On the keyboard, D-flat is the same as C-sharp. And I usually use a lower case b for the flat sign (like we use a hash sign for sharp), so we have Db, which also means database. D-sharp is a tone up from C-sharp, and the same as E-flat on the keyboard, which is contrary to the natural progression of the computer industry, which is ...

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                      dan deadwyler
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                      Need a version that's easy for old guys like me to pick up. It should have a catchy name, perhaps something that rhymes with Dart...

                      -dan

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                      • A AndyInUK

                        Google Dart. Not sure if this language gonna hit the nail. Does anyone here think, it can be replaced with the Javascript?

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                        SeattleC
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                        You cannot go wrong by not bothering to learn a new language until 2 years after its first public release. If the language is *not* the Next Big Thing, you will never have to learn it at all. You'll know by two years. If the language is the Next Big Thing, it will have had a couple new releases and most of the early bugs and breaking changes will be out of the way. There's no way to keep current in 36 languages. You can only have a couple in your fingers at a given time. Yeah, once you've programmed in a given language for 5 years or so, you do have pretty permanent habits. But learning for learning's sake is mostly a dead-end game for practitioners.

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                        • I ii_noname_ii

                          NEVER. Because google is evil and will probably include automatic feedback to their ads. I don't trust google, nor ANYTHING they produce. It's very clear to me what their strategy is. NOTHING is free. There is a much darker purpose for Dart.

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                          sgorozco
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                          ii_noname_ii wrote:

                          There is a much darker purpose for Dart

                          Yeah, call it "Dart" Vader! ;)

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