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  • P Pete OHanlon

    I travel less than sales people, and I estimate that I can be away up to 60% of the time. If this isn't for you, then don't move into Sales. Also, remember that sales involves having to take a bucket load of crap from ALL sides. It's not an easy job, and I admire those who can do it for a living.

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    Albert Holguin
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    I agree, sales is a crap shoot... :laugh: ...a lot of companies do have a "sales engineer" who typically isn't held accountable for sales goals and expectations, they're the technical right hand man/woman for the sales people... although you still end up doing just about as much traveling.

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    • W wizardzz

      My concern with traveling is spending time away from my fiancee. She is hot and I prefer to sleep next to her.

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      wizardzz wrote:

      My concern with traveling is spending time away from my fiancee.

      Oh, well, wait until you're married to make the decision then ;)

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      • S S Houghtelin

        Have you considered teaching, not just in a school but more along the lines of a presenter or speaker for a local company. God knows how many seminars I’ve been to that were essentially some monotone dope reading a manual to you. The ones that I actually get something out of, or at least enjoy, are the ones where the speaker has a great sense of humor, keeping the attention of the audience and the ability to field questions and answer them. It would be nice to have someone like you at a seminar to deflect the inevitable “watch me stump the teacher while I show off my knowledge” audience member in the same way you would handle a heckler.

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        wizardzz
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        Actually, that would be awesome. I could probably deal with the travel involved. I'll include that in my search and might start a video training blog in the meantime.

        "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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        • W wizardzz

          My concern with traveling is spending time away from my fiancee. She is hot and I prefer to sleep next to her.

          "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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          Single Step Debugger
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          wizardzz wrote:

          She is hot and I prefer to sleep next to her.

          Saving from the gas bills, eh? What about the summer? You could travel during the summer?

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          • A Albert Holguin

            I agree, sales is a crap shoot... :laugh: ...a lot of companies do have a "sales engineer" who typically isn't held accountable for sales goals and expectations, they're the technical right hand man/woman for the sales people... although you still end up doing just about as much traveling.

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            wizardzz
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            Yeah, I guess I'm looking for an inhouse remote sales engineer position. I did actually do this as my internship 5 or 6 years ago.

            "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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              Actually, that would be awesome. I could probably deal with the travel involved. I'll include that in my search and might start a video training blog in the meantime.

              "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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              S Houghtelin
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              wizardzz wrote:

              a video training blog

              Excellent idea!:thumbsup:

              It was broke, so I fixed it.

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              • W wizardzz

                So the past few days I've done a lot of thinking about my career path. After talking to my friends and former coworkers, I feel that I might focus on positions that are not just programming. I would still like to development, but would also like to use my speaking skills/need for attention. A position that I have researched is a Sales Engineer. Does anyone do this? Does anyone have advice for making the small jump from developer to something more social? 2 more points, I don't want to do support and I am a little leery of the sales engineer position because I don't want to travel out of town more than 10-15% of the time.

                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                NormDroid
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                Good thing about a Sales Engineer you'll be receiving a commision based salary if you can yank the sales in. Go for it, if you're knowledgeable about tech and have the gift of the gab, you should feel easy talking, doing presentation and bring in the dough.

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                • W wizardzz

                  So the past few days I've done a lot of thinking about my career path. After talking to my friends and former coworkers, I feel that I might focus on positions that are not just programming. I would still like to development, but would also like to use my speaking skills/need for attention. A position that I have researched is a Sales Engineer. Does anyone do this? Does anyone have advice for making the small jump from developer to something more social? 2 more points, I don't want to do support and I am a little leery of the sales engineer position because I don't want to travel out of town more than 10-15% of the time.

                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                  Andy Brummer
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                  My current employer has a couple of technical evangelist jobs. We are working on getting nationwide adoption of a data standard for high school student data. There are other jobs out there that straddle that divide, like others have mentioned, instructor/trainer is another.

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                  • W wizardzz

                    So the past few days I've done a lot of thinking about my career path. After talking to my friends and former coworkers, I feel that I might focus on positions that are not just programming. I would still like to development, but would also like to use my speaking skills/need for attention. A position that I have researched is a Sales Engineer. Does anyone do this? Does anyone have advice for making the small jump from developer to something more social? 2 more points, I don't want to do support and I am a little leery of the sales engineer position because I don't want to travel out of town more than 10-15% of the time.

                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                    Lost User
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                    Project Manager. Lots of talking, no responsibility when things go wrong and you get to draw coloured charts

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                    • W wizardzz

                      So the past few days I've done a lot of thinking about my career path. After talking to my friends and former coworkers, I feel that I might focus on positions that are not just programming. I would still like to development, but would also like to use my speaking skills/need for attention. A position that I have researched is a Sales Engineer. Does anyone do this? Does anyone have advice for making the small jump from developer to something more social? 2 more points, I don't want to do support and I am a little leery of the sales engineer position because I don't want to travel out of town more than 10-15% of the time.

                      "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.

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                      wolfbinary
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                      Sales engineer sounds like an oxymoron. One word is about trying to even sell ice to Escamoes and the other is to build things people can use to solve problems or improve their way of life. I will always want the later. Just me.

                      Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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