Steve Jobs wasnt great..?
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
I do think that the point is valid. What exactly did he do to be 'great'? There are many successful businessmen. Are they also all 'great'?
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eh, he was ok. course he could have called the next day. at least sent flowers or something... not like I wasn't up all hours, coding, waiting, wondering... wishing he'd call.. WHY WON'T HE CALL DAMMIT!! (ok, slightly bad taste, the cheekiness was there though. :-\ )
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CalvinHobbies wrote:
WHY WON'T HE CALL DAMMIT!!
He's with Leslie Nielson now...
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CalvinHobbies wrote:
WHY WON'T HE CALL DAMMIT!!
He's with Leslie Nielson now...
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
CalvinHobbies wrote:
WHY WON'T HE CALL DAMMIT!!
He's with Leslie Nielson now...
Ok, now THAT man was great.
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
Why do you think he's great? Rather than post a link and just say you don't agree, why don't you elucidate and elaborate on what makes that article wrong and you right? As to the point - do I think he was a great business man? Yes. Do I think he was a great technological innovator? No. Do I think he identified a team that came up with designs that the consumer wants? Yes. Do I think he was a great human being? No. Do I think he helped push the industry forward? Yes.
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
Steve Jobs was a marketeer. He invented nothing new, but apple re-packaged things that already existed in a slightly different form, and marketed them extremely well. Don't get me wrong, they were good products, but they weren't that good - and they weren't new or unique. As company bosses went, he did his job very well - Apple made him a lot of money. Which was the point of the exercise...
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
No one is great. We're all just people. Sure some people can inspire others, and surely people that are somehow famous can inspire lots more people (simply because many more people know them). But overall I'd say he's not better or worse than the next person. He just did what he did, made some right decisions and got famous for it. And people who inspire one person can still be a total ass for the next. That said, I can actually conclude that I am the greatest ever. I influence myself in anything I do and without me I wouldn't be me! I am so inspiring to me! :D
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
Should anyone want a link to an article rather than a photo of a bit of a newspaper, then here it is[^]. Although I wouldn't bother reading it, had a scan through and he seems to be comparing Apple products to the polio vaccine.
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No one is great. We're all just people. Sure some people can inspire others, and surely people that are somehow famous can inspire lots more people (simply because many more people know them). But overall I'd say he's not better or worse than the next person. He just did what he did, made some right decisions and got famous for it. And people who inspire one person can still be a total ass for the next. That said, I can actually conclude that I am the greatest ever. I influence myself in anything I do and without me I wouldn't be me! I am so inspiring to me! :D
It's an OO world.
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You are probably the greatest Naerling ever. Well, one of them, anyway. :laugh:
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You are probably the greatest Naerling ever. Well, one of them, anyway. :laugh:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
And you are the greatest ever cat owning welsh CPian.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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No one is great. We're all just people. Sure some people can inspire others, and surely people that are somehow famous can inspire lots more people (simply because many more people know them). But overall I'd say he's not better or worse than the next person. He just did what he did, made some right decisions and got famous for it. And people who inspire one person can still be a total ass for the next. That said, I can actually conclude that I am the greatest ever. I influence myself in anything I do and without me I wouldn't be me! I am so inspiring to me! :D
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{}
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
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And you are the greatest ever cat owning welsh CPian.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
In a field of one, I assume? :-D
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
I personally have more respect for people actually doing something than for people writing about others doing something.
Wout
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Why don't you get a single room?
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No one is great. We're all just people. Sure some people can inspire others, and surely people that are somehow famous can inspire lots more people (simply because many more people know them). But overall I'd say he's not better or worse than the next person. He just did what he did, made some right decisions and got famous for it. And people who inspire one person can still be a total ass for the next. That said, I can actually conclude that I am the greatest ever. I influence myself in anything I do and without me I wouldn't be me! I am so inspiring to me! :D
It's an OO world.
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If I call myself Naerling the superprogrammer does that make me a superprogrammer too? :D
It's an OO world.
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I cant agree with it. Found this in Facebook. what you guys say.? http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_comment-steve-jobs-wasnt-great-he-wasnt-even-close_1596888
We would have expected Jobs to put some of his in money Cancer research. I can understand the article author point. Howerver I don't think this is the right timing to write this.
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Why do you think he's great? Rather than post a link and just say you don't agree, why don't you elucidate and elaborate on what makes that article wrong and you right? As to the point - do I think he was a great business man? Yes. Do I think he was a great technological innovator? No. Do I think he identified a team that came up with designs that the consumer wants? Yes. Do I think he was a great human being? No. Do I think he helped push the industry forward? Yes.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
As to the point - do I think he was a great business man? Yes. Do I think he was a great technological innovator? No.
That's what I used to think, but I'm listening to "The Second Coming of Steve Jobs" right now, and I now believe the exact opposite. He was a terrible businessman, at least he was from 1986-1994, and then was bailed out by John Lasseter and Toy Story in 1995. Even that he almost ruined, he wanted to kill the animation department of Pixar for years so they could focus on hardware; them winning an oscar in 1990 (I think?) for the short film Tin Toy saved them. As for Next, that was a complete disaster of business management. It was all smoke and mirrors, although they did have a good product he did not know how to sell it, and got obsessed with appearance (of the offices, not just the computer box) and trivial details that just didn't matter. He did not always grasp the technological end of things, but he knew what he wanted technology to do from the end users' perspective. Maybe he wasn't much of an innovator himself, but he pushed people (frequently ruthlessly) to innovate so he could get what he wanted. I do think he had singular clout in that respect, like no one else in the industry. One thing is clear from that book though, he could be a real dick.
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You are probably the greatest Naerling ever. Well, one of them, anyway. :laugh:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
You are probably the greatest Naerling ever.
That is so true! :D
It's an OO world.
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Why don't you get a single room?
Maybe I already have... Anyway, my quality time with myself is not something I am willing to discuss on CP. Nor are the CPians willing to have it discussed by me :laugh: ;p
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