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Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study

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    Nothing, because the utility companies would do it.

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Just because the direct cost would be ending up on someone else doesn't mean it won't cost anything. And adding a lot of peak capacity will have to be payed by someone, in the form of a substantially higher price per kWh for the customers.

    Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

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      Science meticulously verifies, people on the internet bluster. So it goes. I wonder why this Berkeley group didn't recruit some of the people on this board with their obviously scary talent for climate science.

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      Fisticuffs wrote:

      Science meticulously verifies

      As in the BEST paper Decadal variations in the global atmospheric land temperatures[^] - Muller R A, et al: If the long-term AMO [Atlantic Mutidecadal Oscillation index] changes have been driven by greenhouse gases then the AMO region may serve as a positive feedback that amplifies the effect of greenhouse gas forcing over land. On the other hand, some of the long-term change in the AMO could be driven by natural variability, e.g. fluctuations in thermohaline flow. In that case the human component of global warming may be somewhat overestimated. Let verification commence. BTW: The paper - along with:

      • Influence of urban heating on the global temperature land average using rural sites identified from MODIS classifications[^]
      • Berkeley Earth temperature averaging process[^]
      • Earth atmospheric land surface temperature and station quality[^]

      - has not yet been peer reviewed and published.

      Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.

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        Just because the direct cost would be ending up on someone else doesn't mean it won't cost anything. And adding a lot of peak capacity will have to be payed by someone, in the form of a substantially higher price per kWh for the customers.

        Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

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        Well if you put it like that, they'd better do it gradually.. It's going to be necessary anyway though, electric car or no. Except for some short periods (such the 80's crisis), electricity use has been going up steadily since the beginning.

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          Science meticulously verifies, people on the internet bluster. So it goes. I wonder why this Berkeley group didn't recruit some of the people on this board with their obviously scary talent for climate science.

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          The scary talented experts weigh in! Isn't your intellect wasted here, boys?

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            The scary talented experts weigh in! Isn't your intellect wasted here, boys?

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            Cant dispute the facts so you attack the person. Typical alarmist behaviour. Well done Fistedchuff, you just proved you have no argument at all. :)

            ============================== Nothing to say.

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              The scary talented experts weigh in! Isn't your intellect wasted here, boys?

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              Hate to say it, but Mr Underscore has a point. You used ad hominem, you lose. On a scale of 0 to 10, ad hominem is -2 and actually scores against you.

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              • L Lost User

                The scary talented experts weigh in! Isn't your intellect wasted here, boys?

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                Fisticuffs wrote:

                scary talented experts

                Strawman, WristiSlaps. I shall continue to take an interest in the subject of climate science, and, although not a talented expert, I shall continue to express my opinion that what is needed is more research over the next 20 years, to determine whether adaptation or mitigation are the preferred options. (Should the evidence change, my opinion will, of course, change.) (Scary? Well, next door's cats are scared of me, but that's about it.)

                Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.

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                • L Lost User

                  The scary talented experts weigh in! Isn't your intellect wasted here, boys?

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                  I really don't understand why people go to university to study things anymore, Google is clearly enough.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I really don't understand why people go to university to study things anymore, Google is clearly enough.

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                    Yes I can see that, your logic is obviously undeniable.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Yes I can see that, your logic is obviously undeniable.

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                      My accountant is just about to tell me which antihypertensive I should put this guy on

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                      • L Lost User

                        I really don't understand why people go to university to study things anymore, Google is clearly enough.

                        - F

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                        soap brain
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                        Fisticuffs wrote:

                        I really don't understand why people go to university to study things anymore, Google is clearly enough.

                        Of course Google is enough! Doctors always think it's just the common cold, but Google knows better . . . ;P

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                        • L Lost User

                          My accountant is just about to tell me which antihypertensive I should put this guy on

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                          ok.. happy trolling, good sir

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                            ok.. happy trolling, good sir

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                            This guy who holds an advanced business degree says he's studied evolution extensively and the scientific data doesn't support it so i have to go argue with him for awhile because that's productive too

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                              This guy who holds an advanced business degree says he's studied evolution extensively and the scientific data doesn't support it so i have to go argue with him for awhile because that's productive too

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                              Ok now I'm confused, who are you talking about?

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                              • L Lost User

                                Ok now I'm confused, who are you talking about?

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                                It's a series of illustrative analogies and parables. In that sense I'm kind of like the Jesus. Did you ever hear the one about the marketing expert who did a bunch of research and is now convinced that aspartame causes cancer? They spoke to everyone they could about it, especially on the internet, but dismissed the opinions of people with any semblance of a medical or biochemical background as being "part of the conspiracy" or "just in it for the money."

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                                  It's a series of illustrative analogies and parables. In that sense I'm kind of like the Jesus. Did you ever hear the one about the marketing expert who did a bunch of research and is now convinced that aspartame causes cancer? They spoke to everyone they could about it, especially on the internet, but dismissed the opinions of people with any semblance of a medical or biochemical background as being "part of the conspiracy" or "just in it for the money."

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                                  I'm beginning to think you're an AI replying with random responses.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    It's a series of illustrative analogies and parables. In that sense I'm kind of like the Jesus. Did you ever hear the one about the marketing expert who did a bunch of research and is now convinced that aspartame causes cancer? They spoke to everyone they could about it, especially on the internet, but dismissed the opinions of people with any semblance of a medical or biochemical background as being "part of the conspiracy" or "just in it for the money."

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                                    By the way, I know what aspartame causes: a disgusting taste. But that's more of an opinion I guess.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      I really don't understand why people go to university to study things anymore, Google is clearly enough.

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                                      Fisticuffs wrote:

                                      I really don't understand why people go to university to study things anymore, Google is clearly enough.

                                      Ah well, that's where you'd be wrong, sor.

                                      Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        My accountant is just about to tell me which antihypertensive I should put this guy on

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                                        Fisticuffs wrote:

                                        My accountant is just about to tell me which antihypertensive I should put this guy on

                                        Well, "Them as counts, counts more than them as don't count", as me old pal Ridley used to say.

                                        Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          This guy who holds an advanced business degree says he's studied evolution extensively and the scientific data doesn't support it so i have to go argue with him for awhile because that's productive too

                                          - F

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                                          Fisticuffs wrote:

                                          i have to go argue with him for awhile

                                          You have to? Why?

                                          Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.

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